ok to be honest i missed it the 1st shot. He was horning a tree when i took the 1st shot. He ran back abot 30 yards from the way he came from. Then he wanted to go back to the tree he was horning so i picked out a clear shot in front of him. Then i pulled the trigger on him again. Was sure i hit him but didnt know how good. So i called my buddy whose land i was hunting and ask him to come help me look for him. Because he ran into the clear cut that just his land. I was still in my tree. So i was pointing my buddy to where the deer was standing when i shot. Then the deer jumps up out of the clear cut and runs about 25 yards and lays back down. I made my way up to where my buddy was standing. So i could get a shot when he got up again and low and behold he did and he looked down the hill at us. The only shot i had at him was in the neck and i made a good shot and dropped him in his tracks. Hope this is what you wanted for details Spurhunter. emoPoke emoPoke emoSmile oh ya he was chasing a doe.