Any experience with otters stealing fish from fish boxes

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Bobber7

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Can I ask you to please keep your pet otters on a leash, or at least keep them at home? I live on Watts Bar Lake South of Kingston.
I had something, I assume an otter, steal fish from a wire covered box, that uses PVC pipe for the frame, that I keep at my dock. If I catch crappie, but don't want to clean them right then, I'll put them in the box until I'm ready to clean them. Last Thursday was the 3rd time within the last 2 weeks or so when I've had fish stolen from the box. First time it was 11 crappie, second time it was 8 crappie, and Thursday it was 4 crappie. Thus, as best I can tell the score is Otters 23 Bob 0 .
I fished with a neighbor friend last Thursday and we caught 9 keeper crappie that he was going to clean. I told him that I had 4 more keepers in my box and when I pulled it up to get them out, there was only a part of one crappie left and it was stuck in a narrow opening (about 4 inches by one inch)on one side of the top flap of the box. First time I had one fastener on the lid (top) of the box, I added 2 more spring clamps to the lid and they were pulled loose the second time I lost fish. I took an old type fish stringer (metal with nine clasps one to hold each individual fish). I had attached about 6 of the 9 clasps around the lid, as well as the main fastener and the 2 spring clamps and whatever got the fish, pulled the clamps off and apparently forced its "paw" into the narrow opening and bent the wire of the box and the lid and pulled the fish through the opening. The fish left had all its head and gills eaten off, but the body of the fish was apparently too wide to pull through the fairly narrow opening. I don't know, it is possible that the culprit was eating on the last fish when I pulled the box out of the water. The box has a rope and harness attached to it and I let it down into the water, about 3 ft UNDER the water, so whatever got the fish had to be under the water for some time. The internet says otters are mammals that must breath from time to time, but can apparently stay under water for some time also (somewhere between 4 and 8 minutes). They are pretty big, powerful animals, I believe up to about 20 lbs or so and up to 4 ft long.

I have had poop on my dock twice during this stealing spree. Looking a bit closer at it I can see fish scales and some bones in it, further pointing to otters. I'd have said raccoons but I don't think they would be able to go under water and stay long enough to get the fish out of the trap.

I've heard from neighbors that saw otters across the lake from us last summer and other have reported seeing otters nearby where we are located. I've never seen an otter around my place, but have seen beaver. I would have bet that Houdini couldn't have escaped from that box after I put those 6 clasps around the lid, but whatever it was it got it open enough to get the fish out. I guess that proved who is smarter, me or an otter!

Any experiences with otters? Looking at TWRA trapping and hunting regs, it looks like I'll have to wait until next fall to battle the otters. I believe the season was October until February 28th.
 
My fault, I've been letting my pit bull otter run free on our walks and have lost track of it occasionally. He came back with fish on his breath and I didn't need to use the pooper-scooper either. My bills for the Purina Otter Chow has been down a bit lately too. Sorry about your fish.

Great story. Keep us informed of your ongoing saga! Might want to switch to a less tasty species for a while in your fish box emoBigsmile emoBigsmile
 
Go to wolfernation.com and email Clint Locklear. A real life, professional trapper extraordinaire from Dunlap. You can email him or watch his videos on different type of trapping methods for your particular open water otter problem.

I know some of Clint's family, they said he was trapping for bobcats on a trophy deer ranch in TX a couple weeks ago and got 50 in 6 his first days!! His web pictures and videos are awesome
 
Well, Bob, I don't have an answer for you on this one that I know will work. Get an otter proof fish box and get the otters frustrated and maybe they will leave for another cove. emoBigsmile emoGeezer
 
you might want to release or clean your fish a little quicker ......hope you figure something out ....
 
Thanks for your suggestion to contact TWRA. I did that. Here is the reply I received. I haven't pursued this further, at least not yet.

"Unfortunately this is not true. We just are not staffed heavy enough to take care of private wildlife damage. I have heard of this problem before. Unfortunately otter are very smart and can adapt to just about anything you can think of. The best I can do for you is give you a contact of someone that can help. It Natures Balance Wildlife Control, Thomas Lawyer @ 865-247-2926. WWW.natures.balancewc.com.
They are good trappers and I'm sure have had these problem before.
Feel free to contact me with any more qts. Or concerns.

Scott Reasor
TWRA
Wildlife Officer
District 32
615-339-5586 " -end of quote
 

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