Years ago I fished jigs and worms on points ... throwing into 3-feet of water, working out into 15 or 20. If I wasn't doing that, I wasn't bass fishing. Took a co-worker with me one day... a novice, greenhorn... barely knew which end of the line to tie a lure on. After a very non-productive 3 hours he exclaimed, "let's go fish over there," pointing at a very shallow flat area, mostly 2-3 feet deep. I very begrudgingly indulged him. Throwing willow-leafed spinner baits we put a dozen quality fish in the boat in an hour. emoDoh I don't see that gentleman very often anymore, but whenever I do he he greets me with, "Hey Richard, let's go fish over there." emoRedface