I don't get to hunt with my dad very often, but he made the trip down to chattanooga for opening day of muzzleloader on the small piece of land i have to hunt in Ooltewah. We were mainly meat hunting! I probably seen 15 deer and my dad said he seen 8. He shot at about 915 and killed a small doe. I finally was offered a good shot on what I thought was a big doe. I drilled it at about 80 yards to find out it was a small spike. Oh well plenty of meat for the freezer now and it was the first time me and dad have ever doubled up. Can't wait to head up and hunt opening day of rifle with him in a couple of weeks.