Bass Tournament Mortality - Functional Livewell Rule is a simple “shill game.”

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Tony M

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Real scientific testing with a DO Meter... results SHOCKING

Fearless Carl Wengenroth, National Conservation Director of the International Federation of Black Bass Anglers from Texas is not shy as he boldly comes forward blowing the whistle on common abusive Tournament Bass Care exposing the ubiquitous Bass Tournament “FUNCTIONAL LIVEWELL RULE” with his little Dissolved Oxygen Meter. Mr. Wengenroth’s DO meter doesn’t lie and State politicians are watching this.

Wengenroth says, “…the rule’s a ‘shill game.”

DNR suggest ways to keep bass alive in livewells… but

Posted by Gene Mueller’s World of Hunting and Fishing
http://genemuellerfishing.blogspot.com/2012/07/dnr-suggests-ways-to-keep-bass-alive-in_22.html

Many black-bass anglers hold onto their catch for an hour or more throughout the fishing day, says a Maryland DNR report from Dr. Joseph Love, PhD, the man in charge of tidal bass — a man who also appears to be firmly on the side of bass tournaments.

“However … bass boat livewell oxygen levels and weigh-in bags that were tested in Texas revealed disturbing dissolved oxygen (DO) content and clearly demonstrated that the livewells were “deathwells” and in the case of tournament anglers waiting in line to tally their catches, holding the bass in a bag, the bags might be “kill bags.” So says the study made in July in the Lone Star State.
Carl Wengenroth, The National Conservation Director of the International Federation of Black-Bass Anglers exposes the cruel brutal reality of bass tournament fish care challenging the “Functional Livewell Rule,” say’s the rule a “shill game.”

Wengenroth is the “whistle-blower” and considered my many as a real champion for exposing the reality of anglers and tournament director’s poor (often deadly) summer tournament bass care practices. Most conservation directors and bass tournament officials vehemently deny these poor bass care practices exist. Most tournament officials refuse to test the oxygen saturation levels in bass boat livewells containing limits of bass when the contestant arrives at the weigh-in in a Wal-Mart parking lot or in the weigh-in bags full of fish. This whistle-blower exposes harsh reality of summer tournament bass care or failure of care. He has blown the whistle on the inadequate fish care tournament bass anglers really provide in summer fishing tournaments in their bass boat livewells, weigh-in bags and the infamous bass tournament “Functional Livewell Rule.”

Wengenroth’s dissolved oxygen meter does not lie and speaks volumes of truths that have been hidden from public view for decades. He spotlighted and dis-spelled false tournament myths about the great fish care bass tournaments provide for the catch when in Texas in the summer of 2012 he exposed the poor fish care that angler’s really provide for the catch all day in bass boat livewells and weigh-in bags. There is no wonder the summer tournament mortality is so high. Withholding oxygen always results in death, dying and disease whether the suffocation is mindless, intentional or accidental.

He is resolute and determined as he sounds the alarm passionately that the tournament “Functional Livewell Rule” is but a simple “shill game” that’s played out by irresponsible tournament officials every summer. This common practice is used by many bass tournament officials to ensure bass boat’s qualify and tournament fees are collected in summer bass tournaments throughout America. If the livewell water pump is humming, it is certified as “functional” by a tournament official. He blew the public illusion that anglers and tournament officials provide the best bass care possible in their bass boat livewells and weigh-in bags. These anglers really don’t and often won’t even provide minimal safe care while suffocating the catch in bass boat livewells and weigh-in bags. The “functional livewell rule” is deceptive at best and deadly in summer bass tournaments according to this National bass tournament Conservation Director’s research published 2012.

This National Conservation Director has blown the lid off bass tournament public relations exposing the real lack of care and concern for the fish with his bass boat livewell and fish bag DO tests. He has directly challenged the tournament bass fishing industry, pointing out poor summer tournament fish care by demonstrating the failure to provide minimal safe oxygen levels in bass boat livewells and weigh-in bags. These deadly environments containing insufficient oxygen saturations do not ensure minimal safe or healthy environments for transporting live game fish.
Wengenroth’s research and findings explain why we are seeing state game department intervention in summer bass fishing tournaments.

DNR’s must protect the star of the show with new and unwanted rules and regulations that directly affect tournament fishing.

Maybe it's time to punt...
 
I would highly suggest anyone who fishes during the summer and puts fish in your live well to do some research on the effects of the disolved O2 levels. Just read some articles and understand the problem. Then you can make an educated decision on how to solve the problem. For the health of our lakes and fish alike.
 
Jeff,

For the vast majority of tournament fishermen, the point and only point of keeping every fish alive all day in his boat livewell is to WIN THE PRIZE AND MONEY and ****Dodge the “dead fish punishment.”

Negative motivation is a shaker and mover, the kid gets spanked with the “leather belt” if you’re bad and kill (suffocate) your fish… now all kids know Child Protective Services 800 number and kids know they can call this number and send you to prison using that “leather belt” these days.

The lesson learned 2014: Don’t ever spank your kid with a “leather belt”… better yet, don’t ever spank your kid, and don’t ever even think about it. Period.

Fish hatchery experts that haul live fish every day are good at what they do, their fish never suffocate in their haul tanks like they do in bass boat livewells every summer... Survival is precisely why hatchery biologist always use 100% compressed welding oxygen for all live fish hauls and never try to oxygenate their live hauling water with mechanical aerators, air or water pumps. They would be fired on the spot if caught transporting live hatchery fish without using compressed.

Keep in mind that most tournament fishermen will never catch a limit of bass heavy enough to overload their livewell depleting the dissolved oxygen to dangerous levels in a lifetime. They never any problems keeping their catch alive in their summer livewells with aerators and livewell pumps, they do not need supplemental oxygen in their livewell or an oxygen system.

But, the fishermen that have do have livewell kills from low oxygen in the summer are the ones that can and do catch heavy limits of fish that deplete the dissolved oxygen in livewell water reducing the available dissolved oxygen to deadly levels. Mechanical aerators (bubbling air and surface agitation) do help to off-gas CO2 and ammonia gas in livewell water which is their primary purpose. These devices are seriously limited when it comes to oxygenation because they are dependent on air. Air contains very little oxygen and a tremendous amount of nitrogen.

When aerators, water pumps and some typed of livewell oxygen systems fail to provide minimal safe oxygen saturations in the summer, it’s becomes crystal clear the instant the fisherman open his livewell lid to check his catch at 10 AM or 1 PM and he sees 1-2 fish are floating or dead.

He has no doubt then that the “dead fish punishment” is coming for him because he has failed to keep his fish alive in his boat livewell. He knows by simple observation that his livewell is NOT FUNCTIONAL. He does not need a DO meter to confirm the cause of death if the fish did not bleed out from arterial lacerations or visual evidence of over pressurization of the air bladder is not present.
For the vast majority of tournament fishermen, the point and only point of keeping every fish alive all day in his boat livewell is to WIN THE PRIZE AND MONEY and ****Dodge the “dead fish punishment.”
No tournament bass fishermen I know spends all that money, time and energy to fish tournaments and lose because 1 fish dies in his livewell because his livewell aerator or water pump failed to provide or insure enough oxygen for his catch even after a tournament official examined and certified that his boat had a functional livewell before the blast off.
So what does a FUNCTIONAL LIVEWELL really mean for a bass tournament boat?

Functional means: “having or serving a utilitarian purpose, capable of serving the purpose for which it was designed.” http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/functional?s=t
Livewell means: “A livewell is a tank found on many fishing boats that is used to keep bait and caught fish alive. Dissolved oxygen is the single most important factor for keeping bass alive. An understanding of factors that affect oxygen levels will better enable anglers to keep their fish [aquatic animals] alive.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livewell

Therefore a “FUNCTIONAL LIVEWELL” must be capable of safely sustaining minimal dissolved oxygen saturations [fish hatchery live transport standards] in livewell water containing heavy limits of tournament caught bass all day, for the duration of the live transport and captivity in the summer. The livewell water quality (specifically DO Saturation) must be sufficient to keep the total catch (which may be 10 – 40 lbs of bass) alive and healthy for 7-8 hours during an all-day transport in small bass boat livewells during summer tournaments.

How do tournament officials define a functional livewell? How do you know when your livewell is not functional, dead fish, sick fish floating, rapid respirations, fish at the surface, piping, abnormal fish behavior in your livewell, cloudy livewell water, foamy livewell water and many other observable stress symptoms.
A simple DO Meter test in a bass boat livewell full of fish at the weigh in dock will tell you is a boat livewell is functional or not in seconds…. The DO test must be done with fish in the boat livewell, weigh-in bag, holding tank, and release boat haul tank not a livewell full of water with no fish in it.

Carl exposed the bass tournament functional livewell rule as a simple “shill game” with his DO meter.
The next bass tournament you fish this summer, ask the Tournament Director or the tournament official that examines and certifies your boat livewell, “How do you define a “functional livewell?” See what he says. You may be shocked at his definition.

Bottom line: If you want a boat livewell system that is guaranteed to safely oxygenate your livewell water, keep all your catch alive all day in hot summer tournaments and you want a turn-on and forget system that you don’t have to give a second thought to… get yourself an oxygen-injection system and concentrate on catching the next fish and winning the tournament all day long. There are many different types of livewell oxygen systems available to fishermen. Oxygen systems have pro’s and con’s, all have limitations; some are excellent and some are gimmicks… research the different oxygen systems and spend your money wisely.

QUESTION: This summer, next summer and every summer for the rest of your tournament fishing live - What is 1 dead bass really worth to you in dollars in a summer tournament is the BIG question you must contemplate and answer… the best bass care possible is always a personal choice and never blind chance and luck and hope the livewell aerator works today.

Maybe a bass tournament official or fishery biologist, fish hatchery manager, outdoors' writer is following this thread and would offer his /her opinions. Or maybe, probably not. Let's see!
 
Thanks for your comments Tony I appreciate it.
The people who are concerned for the fish well being will heed the warning and see the problem for what it is. They will also see the simple solution and install an O2 system on their boat. Some people think the answer is going to a three fish limit but that only guarantees you will have three dead fish instead of five. I would like to think you could have as many fish weighed as you wanted and keep the mortality rate at less than 1%. I think the fishermen who are concerned and do care for their fish now with additives and ice will install an O2 system, it is just a matter of getting them to understand the problem and seeing the solution. We will have a recovery tank set up at the Tenn Valley event at Guntersville this weekend. What are your thoughts on have a recovery tank with an O2 system installed to provide a heavy saturation level of O2. Thus placing every fish brought in to have a chance to sit in the tank for 10-15 minutes prior to being released? Do you think this will give fish a better chance of survival? and also how long would you recommend the fish stay in the recovery tank?
 
I do agree with the functional livewell theory but the problem is, some people will never care and it would make the number of boats decrease on each tx if it were to be required. I think it's just a matter of getting people to understand the problem and then the solution is simple! And as far as cost we have all spent more on worse! at $350-$450 or maybe less its a small price to pay to ensure the survival of the fish that are caught!
 

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