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Jmax

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Most of you know I have fished all my life. I moved here six years ago and found myself lost on the Chick and not catching much of any size. Since then with a lot of trips, several friends helping me out, this forum and a few other helpful sources I catch a few decent fish every now and then. emoSmile I get asked about this often and sometimes feel I am not an "expert" enough to answer that question. I thought I would put it on here for everyone to express their opinions and see just what came up. Here are my thoughts.

I think the biggest thing to overcome on the Chick is the lack of cover for the bass and the temptation to beat the banks. You go over the bottom with your depth finder and usually see nothing much of anything. This is one of the few lakes I have ever seen that you can take a silver buddy and fish the thing most of the day off the bottom without loosing one every ten minutes. When you do, it is usually hung up on some rocks that show to be not much most of the time.
In the winter the bass seem to travel more and look for shad schools. You can locate them by looking for shad on the depth finder and by watching for the birds to find shad. Often the birds are on the top and the bass are underneath. The bass also seem to congragate on drops and ledges. I believe this is their way of having a form of cover. Points serve the same function. It allows them to have something to orientate themselve to. Points with rocks, ledges with rock or outcropings and bluffs with the same. When you do find some wood it seems to hold them as well but wood in the chick that is deep is a premium. They seem to rome for shad and end up on one of these type of places when they are done.

Another winter pattern is creeks and ditches. This is just another form of a drop. The better ones I have found are those that are not seen by the eye but are those underneath, the old creeks and ditches before the river came up. You fish it the same way but have to use your depth finder to follow it so you can stay on it.

Spring is another whole story. The bass seem to migrate to the shallows but on the chick it is all about two main things, temp of the water and the depth when it happens. With the chick going up and down at the whim of the TVA according to weather and rain it is hard to pattern this event more then any lake I have ever fished. We all know it comes up starting in April usually but the bass seem to start sometimes in March if the weather is warm. As late as May if the winter was a cold one and the water yo-yo'd all spring. Once they do the chick is like any other lake to hit spawning bass in the shallows. Look for rock and gravel on the shallow flats and coves.

Summer...o dear summer.....time for the spook. emoBigsmile I find the post spawn to be a great time to locate bass shallow that are willing to hit top water. There are a few areas on the chick that the grass will start to come up and if the water is not too hot yet they will be there and hit top water. I love that time of year. I have notcied they seem to locate again to points, drops and structure but this time they are often shallower. I have noticed you can go into a cove and any kind of stick up, rock pile, dock, ex... will often have bass willing to hit a bait. It just doesn' last long enough. When the water starts to warm up I seem to loose them.

Mid-Summer and hot. I struggle this time of year. I have found them on the chick mostly deep. The same areas I found them in the winter and early spring. Since learning how to fish a swim bait I have found that to be a great search bait and a way to cover a lot of water deep in a short time to locate bass. The most productive has been the older creek edges out in the deeper water and fish parallel to the old banks that are underwater. Usually in the upper teens to twenties in depth. This time of year is also a good time to hit main lake humps and drops. The currents also seems to have a great effect on the bite. If you have some flow and shad in the area the bite is much better usually. emoThumbsup

Fall is I guess my second most favorite time on the chick. The bass seem to go shallow again as the water cools and the shad move up. Schooling is often seen and another great time for top water. The bass are more active and seem aggressive. Flats close to deeper water are often the most productive but the main thing I look for is the shad. Find the food and you will find the bass. This is also the best time to fish grass on the chick. The grass is at it's highest level and the bass will move into it looking for forage as the water cools. A buzz this time of year will work on the chick if you find good grass. Problem with this is it seems as soon as the TVA starts to drop the water the bass move out and leave these areas. emoAngry They are great until that happens.

Well now it is back to winter. emoScratch

This is my thoughts on the Chick. What other ideas, patterns, angles, ex...would any of you like to give up? emoConfused .

emoAngler Jmax
 
The lake keeps changing and going through cycles. I think we are in the middle of a bass boom here. You can talk pattern all day long, but the fact is that there is always more than one pattern that will boat 20lbs on any given day here.

When I became old enough to begin really fishing this lake it was not near as productive as it is today!
 
That is a great detailed analysis JMax, emoToast Thanks for putting it on, emoThumbsup I hope some of the others who really catch bass will take that sort of time to post their thoughts as you have. I'm lookin' forward to reading how you "Pros" get it done, emoTongue
 
Well I agree with Jmax on the drops and points , fish here as well as all lakes use points, drops and ledges, yes ours has little bottom cover in the deeper parts of the lake. And I don't do very well most of the time on the deep fish over 15 feet, but I find fish 3 to 5 lbs in less than 15 feet most of the year during the day, as the water heats up in late July - Early Sept I fish more at night, the bass are easier to find at night in dog days of summer.
So during that time I fish at night or from 4am to 9am .. by 9am its too hot, and too many jet skis and pleasure boaters any way..
But now we have grass starting to re-emerge all over the lake.. and that keeps me in my comfort zone, not needing to go below 15ft to find quality sized bass.

There are always bass that prefer shallow, and always some that prefer deep water.. as the water heats up I usually start fishing more up around Dayton, and Hiwasssee River areas.. more grass up there and easier to find fish. Or I head below chick to fish the river, with cooler more oxygenated water and more active fish.

Last year I found a bunch of 4-6 lb fish in less than 6 feet of water in to late July when all others where concentrating on 20 ft plus .. I was finding quality fish shallow, deep water near by with trees on short points .
I found that slowing down was a must the fish weren't aggressive, but they were still shallow.

Winter those areas prob would still hold fish , but my trees are almost all out of water in winter, but those points still hold fish in winter they are just harder to find , or harder to get to bite.. shad is always the key in winter, and if those points have shad, and most of all when shad are dying its even better. But you must really slow way way way down.. lures that imitate dying shad and slow falling baits do well for me in water below 50.

Once 50 degree mark hits the fish roam all over .. waking up from the winter slumber.. and feeling the urge to ready for spawn.. they start heading to spawning grounds. and again the fish are much easier to catch, but are even more keyed on the pathways to the spawn.. points, ledges ,creeks .. they arent ready yet but they start staging at areas near spawning grounds..
 
Absolutely awesome Post Jmax!

It is good for me to see your insight and perspective. Since I was "born & bred" here, I've lived through another life on Chickamauga Lake.

In the late 1970's and all through the 1980's milfoil was king. Nearly 8,000 surfaces acres of milfoil covered Chickamauga Lake, upper end and lower end. Bass fishing was easy... just fish the grass.

I got spoiled and when the grass went away in the early 1990's (let's not start the TVA-bashing again), bass fishing became a different game. And for a while during the big "Bass Crash," it was REALLY hard. I did not adapt well.

Instead I simply switched species and started chasing other fish I could catch, without having to learn how to fish all over again.

Since then, the bass fishing has clearly rebounded as the lake has evolved into a similar fishery as we had "pre-milfoil." I haven't gone back.

Great posts, and reports, like yours sure tempt me however.
 
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Jmax, SUPER post! Thanks for helping out on that learning curve - a whole lot of folks on the forum will benefit from your teachings. I love when the CFF gives people the resources to go out and apply to their own styles of fishing. Thank you Jim!!! emoAngel emoWorthy emoWorthy emoThumbsup
 
excellant post...... JMAX!!!!! I hope one day in the near future to be able to put some things together and figure out the way the lake is producing now days... just as Richard said.....

My family Uncles,father,and g pa's fished the chick when it was a Milfoil lake...... there for thats how i learned to fish.... so im having to teach myself since the fishing changed on the chick my family.... Uncles and father changed over to bowfishing.... I LOVE TO BOWFISH but i love to CATCH BASS TOO.... so im learning all over from what i was taught how to fish...
 
WEll since this was my first winter fishing, and I did not catch but about 3 bass, I'll not post about it. Summer, well i was hitting some humps before it got too hot, then on to the channel ledges and deep points. Thats about all I learned in my first good year with a boat, and fishing. Maybe this time next year I can add something that might help someone else out. Until then you all will just keep helping me. I like the post Jmax, these are the things we need to read more of.
 
I agree with you on all of your points Jmax. The fishing has really gotten better for all species in my experience in the last 18 years here on the Chick. I do think that to be consistent catching large fish on Chickamauga one must put in a good amount of time and be good with electronics. There are some places that look great on the maps that hold few fish but others that are pretty consistent at certain times of the year and cover on that structure is the key I would expect. I think that to win tournaments on the lake from one season to the next you can fish shallower on the upper lake but to get good ones consistently on the lower lake you must fish deep. There is a lot of fishing pressure on the lower end of the lake and you may get lucky from time to time on shallow quality fish but the pattern usually won't hold up. In summer and in winter it seems to me that main lake flow is the key to finding large numbers of fish. Looking at a map and being able to "see" where there should be slack, eddie water next to good flow is a great asset and then using electronics to fine tune the search when you get there is a big deal. Cover on good structure with bait being present is what makes a good spot great. The spawn is a little bit different bird as food isn't the primary motive for where the fish will be but if there are shad present it can make a difference. I have planned for years to spend time looking for good structure and cover in the 8-12 foot range of spawning areas as the "big girls" should stage there while the "little boys" are on the flats waiting for them but I end up fishing for all the aggressive "boys" or go crappie fishing instead as I can fish more and search less. If I ever fish some prespawn tournaments I will spend the time to do it. The fall is different too as supposedly the shad move shallow for a second spawn and the bass follow them.(http://www.google.com/search?q=cach...dfin+shad+spawn+fall&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us)

The bass move shallow to feed at that time and not to spawn. The fish are feeding up to put on some fat for the winter and are very aggressive. One day I'll get back to bass fishing but for now I'm having too much fun catching crappie. As long as TVA leaves the grass alone for the most part fishing will continue to get better. We have a wonderful fishery here!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Thanks for your insight on Chick! This is my first real year fishing and I apprecicate you shedding a little light on some of the tricks of the trade. emoUpsmile
 
Thanks for the imput guys. :) Churly, I think you are right, usually there seems to be several different patterns and baits that seem to work on this lake at the same time. I feel this occurs often due to the size of the chick, the water difference and current difference. If you were on the river and they had both the dams at Watts and the Chick open then you might see some pretty good flow on the river and that could result in a good bite on humps and ledges along the main river. However up in the creeks you may not see any flow at all due to the water just passing through on the main river. In the creeks with little or no flow there might be a structure bite that have the bass holding tight to cover. With our water system covering such a large area this type of difference may exist in several different forms.

The bait is a whole new discussion. In the example above out on the river humps and ledges a swim bait and C-rig might be the bait of choice. In the creeks with bass holding tight to cover you may want to slow down and go with a jig or worm to get in amounst them. emoBigsmile These are the diffences that make the Chick such a challenge. About the only thing we don't have to tackle on the Chick is title water but the way the TVA bounces the chick up and down it is almost like we do. emoDoh I think the one thing I have truely learned about this lake is if one way you are fishing does not work try another. If one area you are fishing doesn't move to another totally different type of place. Look for differences, find the bite, once you find the bite then make note of all that is there. Then find another place like that and repeat it.

As Big Fish mentioned the upper chick is completely different from the lower chick. It is like fishing a totally different lake. The Hawassie is different from the river and the upper as well so you have several types and choices to choose from. When someone tells me they weren't biting and we are talking about the chick the first thing that comes to my mind is they really just never found them.

On this lake you have got to do your homework and study. Like Polo said you can get a good map and find likely places. Then go look them over and see if they were/are as good as they looked on a map. The thing that has frustrated me the most about the chick is I have done all the things we have talked about, gone into a tournament prepared and feeling ready. Gone to my spot and nothing. emoMad Conditions have changed overnight, temp/current flow/ depth, you name it. The ever changing conditions of this water way system can drive you nuts. emoGoofy Then you have to scramble just to bring in a decent limit. My hat is off to these guys that bring in on a regular basis a 20 lb stringer on the chick. If you notice it is usually the guys that have fished the lake for a while. I feel they know better then most what to do when under what condition. That is just time on the water and having an open mind to look what is happening and the willingness to change with the conditions.

emoAngler Jmax
 
Jmax, I enjoyed your intuitive observations. I have fished the Chick for 20+ years and have always enjoyed the challenge of fishing it. If it was easy, EVERYONE would be doing it, and they would call it Gettin' instead of Fishin'! Thanks, I look forward to meeting you out on the water sometime. Take care.
 
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