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This is a good read.

July 21, 2010 07:54 AM UTC by John Stossel

Killing Jobs
Yesterday, Congress voted 60 to 40 to extend unemployment benefits through November.

Unemployment benefits are popular with the public, so I understand why even Republicans say they support this handout “if it’s paid for.” But this is not good policy.

Unemployment checks lead people to delay seeking work. I’m told that it’s cruel to say that, but it’s just true. When you subsidize something, you get more of it. As CATO's Michael Tanner points out:

The extension of unemployment benefits lengthen the average stretch of unemployment by three weeks or more...

roughly a third of those unemployed in the United States find work [within a week of] when their benefits expire, according to a study... in Industrial and Labor Relations Review.

Also, government benefits crowd out private charity. America used to have hundreds of “mutual aid societies.” Neighbors helped neighbors. That worked much better than government checks. The neighbors knew who needed a helping hand vs. who needed a kick in the butt. Government handouts undermined such private charity. Mutual Aid societies disappeared.

A 2005 study in the Journal of Public Economics found that: “Church spending fell by 30% in response to the New Deal, and that government relief spending can explain virtually all of the decline in charitable church activity observed between 1933 and 1939.”

The most free and prosperous places in the world, like Singapore and Hong Kong, offer no unemployment insurance. Yet they are great places to find work. Singapore’s unemployment rate is just 2.2%.

A “safety net” is supposed to catch someone when he is falling, not two years after he falls. By 99 weeks -- the current length of unemployment benefits -- it is time for him to him to stand up.
 
I agree here. I know several people who "could not find a job" Then miraculously when their unemployment ran out they were working within days. Not flipping burgers either. Of course there are exceptions but when faced with completely doing without people somehow manage to get moving. One of these people I am speaking of is a good friend of mine.
 
cheez - 7/21/2010 5:44 PM

I agree here. I know several people who "could not find a job" Then miraculously when their unemployment ran out they were working within days.

Is that what unemployment is suppose to do??? It helps until employment can be found. Looks like it worked well in your friend's case (assuming involuntary unemployment).

Your "could not find a job" is that referring voluntary unemployment? If so, they should not have been eligible for unemployment IMO.
 
Bfish - 7/22/2010 11:05 AM

cheez - 7/21/2010 5:44 PM

I agree here. I know several people who "could not find a job" Then miraculously when their unemployment ran out they were working within days.

Is that what unemployment is suppose to do??? It helps until employment can be found. Looks like it worked well in your friend's case (assuming involuntary unemployment).

Your "could not find a job" is that referring voluntary unemployment? If so, they should not have been eligible for unemployment IMO.

My "could not find a job" was meant to be somewhat facecious. The only places they looked were places known to not be hiring. You missed my point completely. The people I am speaking of ran their unemployment out on purpose. Each and every one of them could have found a job but chose to draw the checks. When the checks ran out they got off their sorry butts and got jobs. If they got the checks extended they would still be drawing them. In my opinion these people are no different than the welfare moms who keep having babies so they can keep the checks coming in.
 
I agree 100% I know several people that has dont just that and if they could draw longer they would still be sittin at home all they are doing is putting america deeper in a hole.
 
They were called "Hoover Camps:, back in the 1930's.
The private companies have to pay more unmployment taxes into the pool, depending on how many people in your company are laid off.There is a rating number, which Ive forgotten, that tells what your company has to pay the following quarter. It's a %, nd it gets higher the more you have laid off.Each state has a $$ pool which is drawn from by the unemployed.Now it's 120+ weeks. I remember when it was 26 weeks, and everyone that wanted to work could get a job. WANTED TO are the key words.Some Unions and companies have their own private unemployment funds.$3-500 per week. and UP!
Good Post guys.
 
Eyeman2 - 7/22/2010 7:16 PM

They were called "Hoover Camps:, back in the 1930's.
Hoover was president until 1933. Social Security Act was not passed until 1935 to help prevent the so-called Hoover Camps for re-occurring.
 
Bfish - 7/22/2010 8:30 PM

Eyeman2 - 7/22/2010 7:16 PM

They were called "Hoover Camps:, back in the 1930's.
Hoover was president until 1933. Social Security Act was not passed until 1935 to help prevent the so-called Hoover Camps from re-occurring.
 
SS was supposed to be voluntary, no more than 7%..go figure from that,FDR.
SS was not to be spent,not to be taxed, thanks, Jimmy Carter,LBJ & Bill Clinton.
Welfare was supposed to be until you get back on your feet, not a life style, thanks Jimmy Carter & LBJ and the great society.
I can go on if you can stand the heat..the Depression was getting worse until the Japs Bailed us out in 1941.
Give me your gold or go to jail, "FDR. 1933...$10,000 fine or 10 years in jail or both if you owned US gold coins. Wonder why, could it be he wanted your money, and if you had gold coins that could not be put into the US Treasury
like paper money. Had you rather have a US $20 bill or a US $20 gold coin? they both sold for $20, before FDR. Paper money can be printed and backed by the "word' of governments, gold/ gold coin is tangable real goods.
The US government is all about the US government, more taxes=more government jobs.
Barack Obama thinks and said, " The Constituion is not that important". how can you stand beside someone who thinks like that?? unless YOU think the same arogant stupid thoughts.
 
Eyeman2 - 7/24/2010 3:40 AM

...SS was not to be spent,not to be taxed, thanks...
SS would be solvent had it not been for Congressional Republicans removing monies for pork projects for the past 2 decades.

The US government is all about the US government, more taxes=more government jobs.
You forgot to send the memo to Bush as he created the largest expansion of the US government since WWII, along with increase military expenditures, yet gave the rich tax breaks. Can we say deficit? emoEnforce
 
LBJ raided the SS money..and put it into the general fund....why do you keep blaming Bush????
The republican Party,,,GOP has passed more laws to help the low and middle income population than the Democrats.
The press, & 3 "c's"of TV , prints & says a lot that is off the charts as far as the truth. When they are caught, the apology is on page 66 of the Funnies section.
It is getting scary, even for the ones that have been born Democrat's for they know not, and it's not their fault, so we can look the other way,,,,when they cross the street. oops, was that a pot hole?
 
Eyeman2 - 7/29/2010 2:26 AM
GOP has passed more laws to help the low and middle income population than the Democrats.
Let's see your list, or is this another one of your delusions?
 
Bfish - 7/31/2010 1:04 PM

Eyeman2 - 7/29/2010 2:26 AM
GOP has passed more laws to help the low and middle income population than the Democrats.
Let's see your list, or is this another one of your delusions?

I've asked for a list many times on here..... nothin, notta. The stuff I did get from them was weak to say the least.
 
U2 guys above me in the last post u made, 2 m2.
go 2...Advocates for self government.......click on the right top,,,right is the hand that your mouse is probably in, and take the Test...then read the book Animal Farm, see if you understand what it means and then if you can do these 2 things,,,,you wil never have to ask a stupid question again. Good luck, you need it.
 
Eyeman2, so who is the modern "Napoleon" and "Snowball"?
I find it ironic that you are using a book written by a democratic socialist to advance your brand of radicalism.
 
The book was about Russia, depicting the Bolshevic Revolution. Doubt if George Orwell was talking about "Big Brother" watching you. Opps, is that another book by a right wing scoialist?
There is always a little truth in Old Wives Tales.
 
So Eyeman, why don't you answer my question?

Bfish - 8/1/2010 7:16 PM

Eyeman2, so who is the modern "Napoleon" and "Snowball"?
I find it ironic that you are using a book written by a democratic socialist to advance your brand of radicalism.
 

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