Cooperjd and Dad's elk hunt in SD

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well, i'm back in the wonderful D.C. now, and I havent' written up the complete account yet, but here's a relatively quick version...
Fly into Sioux Falls saturday, picked up by dad and we head west. Sunday morning we head for Edgemont, SD and some dirt roads to find Ken Cassens ranch, 6 square miles of elk country. we get settled into camp and head out for some scouting after an early dinner. its hot, 95 degrees or so hot. and we didnt' think anything would move til near dark anyway. we made it up to the top of a ridge and glassed down, and found a group of 3 bulls and some cows. 2 of the bulls looked very nice, but we didnt' bring the spotting scope, just binocs and they were pretty far away, and it was getting dark. the guide thought it'd be best to come back to that spot in the morning and try to locate the group again.

monday morning we head out. we spot some bulls out in the open prairie going in, but with no way to approach them we had to leave them and hope they would venture our way to the timber later in the day. we made it to the top of a ridge, only to be spotted by 2 spikes, so we had to ease back out and go around another ridge to glass. we were on top of one hill and located a group of cows across on top of the next ridge, so we had to stay down not to scare the lookout cow. the elk act like whitetails, with one main cow looking out for danger watching over her group. there was one decent bull with this group, but no way possible to put a stalk on him with my bow. our agreement was since i had the bow, we would try to get within bow range, but if a nice bull wouldn't cooperate, dad would take the longer shot with his rifle.
these elk file out and go around us and we ventured down and up the next ridge to see what was over that side. nothing. we made our way to the bottom of this ridge and could hear a bull rubbing his antlers on a tree. so we slowly crept up the hill and nestled behind a tree. dad stood about 20' to the side with the rifle. now early season, the bulls do not respond to cow calls, but my guide tried a few to see if curiosity would draw the bull closer. well the bull turned out to be a group of 6 bulls, with 2 nice ones! they are about 70 yards away and the lead one is heading our way. he gets to about 55 yards or so and doesn't like something. not sure what, we were hidden and had a great wind, but he spooked and took the group with him. dad was too far to whisper to to tell which bull to shoot, so he didnt' get a shot either. it was fun being that close to an animal that size though.
we hiked around a while longer peering over various hills and ridges, and finally left dad while the guide and i went back for the truck to try a different part of kens land. we drove around for a while without really seeing much, and decided to try another spot the guide (Ty) has had success. we had success there, and got 8 rattles from a 3' rattle snake... but no elk. i stepped about 3" from this snakes tail and happened to look down at my foot when i stepped. anyone who thinks a white boy can't jump has never seen me almost step on a rattlesnake. and when an injured snake strikes at me, i can jump pretty far then too!
I know i said short version....sorry...
ok we finally spot 2 good bulls making their way through the timber. Ty thinks they're going to water, and knows how to cut them off. He guessed right and we crept our way to the top of a hill overlooking the elk. with a stiff wind in the perfect direction, and enough cover with small hills and ditches, we think we can make a stalk. so off we go running down the hill and to a path for a perfect ambush point. well, the elk reverse direction and start feeding away from us. but with the ditch and wind we give chase. now its difficult to describe this stalk, utterly amazing, lucky, whatever. we had a stiff wind blowing right in our face, no smelling us. difficult to hear us, and they had no clue we were there. i topped a small rise and there were 3 bulls! not 25 yards from me. i could barely clip my release on my string. but i couldn't shoot, they were too close together. the start to separate, and to get out of range, but one hung back, but he was turned too far. quartering away, but the angle was too much. dad is behind me ready with the rifle, if these elk get out of bow range, he's shooting one. mind is made up. well the last bull in the group is a touch over 40 yards, and finally turns and gives me a good target. i make my draw and shoot, but the shot looks low and a little too far back. in the excitement, i didnt' think to tell dad to give me another arrow ( he had my quiver) or give me the rifle, i just said shoot him! the elk was hurt, and only took a few steps before stopping, so dad quickly shot him with the 7mm ultra mag. Dad had his bull. my shot turned out to be a pretty good one, but at the angle, we're not sure if we'd would've ever found him. the angle was too much. i hated to have chosen dad's bull for him in this way, but he said it was fine, since he scores around 340 gross, and was the biggest of the 3.
pictures taken, hugs and handshakes, etc...
we get the truck and a trailer and go back after the 700lb bull to take back to the lodge for skinning. on the way out we spot the other 2 bulls bedded up, and they are in a stalkable position. we drop off dad's elk and head back out with my bow. they get very few bowhunters there, and my guide's personal mission was to get me an elk with the bow and on video. the bulls were bedded down in a bowl, and with the strong wind we could sneak up to the edge, but they were about 65 yards, too far for me to shoot. so we had to wait them out. well they got out of there with noone shooting at them, and made their way into the open prairie again. dad is trying to get me to shoot with the rifle, but my guide is begging me to give him another chance. so me and ty leave dad (he is pretty sore in his hip by now) and we basically run about 1.5miles in a huge circle through the timber, up and down hills to try to get in front of these elk. they are feeding uphill, and we want to be on the other side. so around we go. we near the top and cannot see the elk. we spotted dad way away and he is waving at us, telling us to get down. i finally see why when i see the tips of antlers not 50 yards away and just under us! thankfully we still have the wind in our favor and find some nice sagebrush to hide behind. the first bull tops the hill and stands broadside for me, but i can see the other one coming behind him, and i want to wait. this first bull is a bigger bull than the other one, but isn't as pretty in my eyes. this bull spots us, and circles downwind of us and runs off. no matter, here comes the one i want... he tops the hill and i draw my bow. Ty cow calls to stop him, and he turns and faces me... oh no.. i am at full draw. i can't shoot... how long will he stand like this... ty ranges him and whispers 43 yards... the bull starts walking again and turns broadside. ty cow calls... he stops again, slightly quartering to me, but just barely... i can put the G5 montec just behind the shoulder....thump... perfect! i see arrow bury to the white fletch just inside the front shoulder. the big bull jumps and stops, turns a small circle, and stumbles downhill for about 60 yards before piling up. my guide has awesome video of this, and dad watch the whole thing from the opposite direction through his bino's and got some video as well. never in my dreams would i think we could take 2 great bulls like this, much less in the same day. it was a great help that we were the first hunters in camp and the elk had not been pressured at all, otherwise stalking with a bow would be impossible until the rut comes in and calling would work. a dream come true for sure. dad did well with hiking, he put in around 6 miles. me and ty put in almost 9 that day. the mathews outback purchased from maddog performed flawlessly. and the g5 montecs are devastating on elk, i love those broadheads. i know i said short version, thats as short as i can make it and get most of the details in.
 

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<font color="#ff0066">Let me be the first to say that we (CFF) are certainly proud of you all.  I know you are so thankful that this hunt was able to come off and the results are fantastic....good pictures and good gosh, what a rack....you will need a 12 foot ceiling  to put the mount up on the wall...congrats........Ain't God Good????       FA</font>
 
Coop, I am very proud of you, and very proud to call your dad and you my friends.  Great job, and great story... I am extremely happy for Mr. Tony, and I will say that all the prayers have been answered.  Its borderlined got me teary eyed.  Hahaa, you know how I am... </p>

Way to go buddy... come home and see us.</p>
 
That`s some real Hunting ! Great job Coop ! I`m sure glad your Dad was able to get well enough to go have a Trip of a Lifetime with you. Memories never forgotten !!emoThumbsup emoThumbsup
 
Way to go there Cooper...that is down right cool. Thanks for sharing your trip. It sure makes me look forward to the fall bow season and getting out in the woods to go after Bambi's dad.emoAngel Jmax
 
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WOWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great READ ... better story ... FANTASTIC pictures.

Sure glad it all worked out and you and your dad shared a chapter in your lives you will NEVER forget.

:) Good job Coop.

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Great hunt....great story....this kind of a hunt with your Dad just does not get any better than this. emoWorthy emoThumbsup emoThumbsup emoThumbsup
 
Thanks for the kind words and many many prayers for Dad. just 3 weeks ago he was still thinking he woulnd't be able to hunt. So I'm really glad it worked out for him. he could barely walk the next day, but he proved to himself that he could do more than he expected. it was a great trip and its unreal to draw a bow back with one of those beasts looking at you! Next year I think we'll try to go after antelope if he can move around better, and he'll need to practice with his bow more. for those that think they can't afford to go on a hunt somewhere, you can't afford not to. you only live once, gotta live out some of your dreams. its easier for me to save money to hunt, i have no woman or kids, its my main priority for saving money. but most people can put back a little each month, and before you know it, you have enough to go on a trip somewhere.
7 ½ years of college and 2 degrees to get a decent job…. a whole buncha-thousand dollars
New wardrobe for first ‘professional’ career…. $1,000
Saving all the money from first professional job to elk hunt with favorite hunting partner and hero…. priceless
 
Wow Coop, what a dream hunt! I held off responding untill I had time to read the whole story, I really put myself into the hunters shoes when I read stuff like this, and you did well with the details. I felt like I was looking over your shoulder! Good job!
 
Mr. Cooper ....... excellent report!!!!  I am so thankful that your Dad was able to make it for the trip!  Those are totally awesom pictures.  Your report made me feel like I was there with you.  Glad to hear/see that the trip was a success.  Way to go man!!! 
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for any of you taht are REALLY bored... here is the long version of my write-up...

South Dakota Elk Hunt

The time has finally come. After a quick 7 ½ years of college, I get a real job. With that real job comes a salary; with that salary comes the ability to save a little money. With that savings there is only one logical thing to do, go on a hunting trip. This trip will be my first elk hunt with my hero, idol, and one of the greatest whitetail hunters West Tennessee has ever known. The man, the legend, my Dad.

The time is drawing near, the anticipation is growing. Dad is recovering from his treestand fall. It will be tough to chase elk around the Black Hills of South Dakota 6 months after shattering his pelvis and undergoing reconstructive surgery, but he’s going to give it a shot. The ranch owner assured me they can accommodate any special needs Dad has, so this should be an unforgettable hunt.

I have spent so much money at Bass Pro shops I should get my own parking space; have to have broadheads, bullets, new binoculars, shirts, pants, gloves, etc. etc… My Bass Pro Shops Visa comes out again for the plane ticket to Sioux Falls, SD. I’ve got everything I need, and a whole lotta stuff I don’t. I make a list, check it over and over, add to it when I think of something else that’s a must have. I continually check the weather in Edgemont, SD to try to know what to expect. Just a couple of days left, time to start organizing and packing everything on the list. Bow, arrows, release, rifle, bullets, socks, camo, etc… OK everything is packed and ready.

I call Dad as I am walking to baggage claim in Sioux Falls, he is just walking into the airport, perfect timing. We exchange hugs and walk to get my bags. He is walking well, no limping and no cane or crutch. We load the gear in the truck and head west towards Rapid City. After a sleepless night in the hotel we head for Edgemont and the 6 square miles of elk country owned by Ken Cassens.

We arrive and finally find Ken, have introductions and he shows around the lodge. We unload our stuff and shoot our rifles and my bow to make sure no sights have changed during travel. We sit around shooting the bull for a little while until our guide Ty arrives and settles in his room for the next months work. We swap hunting stories, discuss strategies, and make plans for some scouting that evening after dinner. The temps were around 100 degrees that afternoon, and the elk wouldn’t be moving much.

After dinner we head out towards a high point to glass some areas below. On the way we spot a nice young bull with a cow. They watch us for a few minutes and then turn around and disappear into the timber. Once on top of the ridge we spot a group of elk. There are a couple really nice bulls and a couple of smaller ones, along with a few cows and calves in this group. A couple of the bulls are working the trees over with their antlers, trying to strengthen their necks and remove any leftover velvet on their shiny white antlers. As darkness draws near, a couple of the bulls bed down below us, and we plan to come back to this spot in the morning to try and locate them again. On the way out we spot another nice bull hanging out alone, this bull the guide named White Horn because his antlers seemed especially bright. This bull isn’t as big as others around, but he is very symmetrical with long royals and 5th points. He also has a nice shape to his antlers that makes him unique. The more I look at this bull the more I like him, but want a better view in more daylight, so hopefully we can find him tomorrow. Since I am trying to harvest an elk with my bow, we agree to try and stalk a bull for me first, but if a nice bull gets out of my range, or is in a position where stalking is impossible, Dad will take the shot with his rifle if he likes the bull.

The first morning of the hunt we spot 2 bachelor groups of bulls on the drive in. They are out in the middle of the prairie, with no way to approach them, so we head for the timber hoping they’ll make their way towards us later in the day. We try to get to the same spot as last night, but there are two spike bulls sitting in our spot, and we don’t want to risk spooking them, so we ease around to the top of another ridge and begin hiking and glassing. Around the top of a finger we see a group of elk coming up and over the top of the next ridge, with a lookout cow stationed at the top. We cannot spook this cow, so we stay on the opposite side of our hill and peek up to glass the small herd. Mostly cows and calves, with one decent bull raking trees. This bull still has a small amount of velvet on his antlers, and is one of the bulls from last night. This group makes their way around and out of our sight, but no bulls follow, so we decide to go down and up the ridge the elk were on and peer over to the other side. Over the other side we spot one cow, but she is heading the opposite direction the rest of the herd went, maybe she winded us. We make it to the bottom of this ridge and hear a limb break, the sound of a bull rubbing his antlers on a tree. We decide he’s just on top of the hill in front of us, so we sneak upwards and hide behind a small group of trees to try and locate the bull. It is still early season, so calling does not work on these bulls, but my guide Ty tries a cow call to see if curiosity will bring them closer. We can finally see antlers coming our way, but as they get closer it’s more than one set, its 6! There is a group of 6 bulls in front of us, with the lead bull a very nice one. He did not like something he saw, because at about 55 yards he bolted and took a couple of bulls with him. There are still a couple of bulls left on top of the hill, but they get nervous and start to head away from us, with the last bull in that line a really nice one. Dad is standing a little too far away from us to allow for good communication, so even though he has the rifle, he didn’t shoot anything, not knowing exactly what we were doing. That was my first stalk for elk and having those huge animals that close is nothing short of amazing.

We hike around for a while longer without locating any more elk, so Ty and I decide to go back for the truck and will pick Dad up, and then try another location Ty knows usually holds elk. As we are walking the top of a ridge I happened to look down at my foot and see that it’s about 3 inches from a rattlesnakes rattle. If anyone thinks this white boy can’t jump, try putting a rattlesnake inches from my feet! Thankfully it’s much cooler today with a high of around 60, so the snake was stretched out and not curled up. I alert Dad and Ty and after a few minutes we have one less rattlesnake on the property and Dad has 8 rattles as a trophy. We spot another group of elk bedded down, with no good bulls. I think they heard us, as they didn’t hang around long. We didn’t want to try and chase them, bad wind direction, and we’ll never catch elk on the move. It’s getting close to lunchtime now so we decide to head back to the lodge for some food.

We make our way back to the truck and start heading back. Driving out we spot a couple of really nice bulls and decide to postpone lunch and try to intercept the bulls. They give us the slip after a while so it’s back to the lodge for lunch again. This time, however, we spot one of the bachelor groups from early this morning, still out in the open prairie and still no way to approach them. We decide though to go back and look for the 2 good bulls we saw and maybe this bachelor group will get up and come to the timber, so we postpone lunch again. While looking for the 2 good bulls we spot 2 of the bulls from the bachelor group in the prairie, they have made their way to the timber! Ty thinks they may be going to a small watering hole, and he knows how to cut them off.

We exit the truck and make it to the top of a hill overlooking a valley, and here come the elk, feeding towards the water! With a strong wind blowing in the perfect direction, we think an ambush is possible, so we get in a ditch for cover and head downhill to intercept the bulls. Of course by this time they start to change direction and feed the other way! No matter, they are feeding slowly and calmly, and at less than 100 yards away with a strong wind in our face, and a ditch to hide us, we push forward to try and get close enough for a shot. By this time we have spotted the 3rd bull in the group that we could not see before, so now we’re stalking 3 nice bulls. This is unreal. There is a small hill between us and the elk, so they cannot see us, and with the wind they cannot smell or hear us, everything was working out perfect. Now any of these bulls I would be happy to bring home, as would Dad, so if they get out of my bow range, he has already decided to take a shot at one with the 7mm ultra mag. I top the small hill and not 25 yards away are 3 bull elk! They are so close together I cannot take a shot for fear of a pass through and wounding a second bull. They are feeding away and never even see us. They are also quickly getting out of bow range. Once separated, the bull in the back is the only one left in my range, at a touch over 40 yards. Ty is with me and Dad is a few yards back with his rifle and video camera. Ty cow calls to try and turn the bull for a shot. The bull is quartering away at an extreme angle, too extreme for me to shoot. With the high wind, the elk aren’t sure which direction the call is coming from, they are looking ahead of them, and we are behind them! The last bull finally turns a little and offers me a good shot. I draw back and release my arrow, but it hits low and far back. The bull runs only a few steps and stops, obviously hurt. The shot doesn’t appear to be a good one, and my quiver was back with Dad. I didn’t think to have him toss me my quiver, or to give me the rifle, I just said ‘shoot!’ We don’t know how long the bull will stay there, and we do not want to track down a wounded elk. Dad quickly shoots the bull and he runs maybe 30 yards before piling up. Dad has his bull, the biggest of the 3, and a gross score of about 340”. My shot turns out to be better than we were thinking, with the arrow exiting just behind the opposite shoulder, but we’re not sure the elk would have died anytime soon. Better to put the animal down quickly. I hate to have chosen Dad’s bull for him in this way, but he assured me it was OK. Hugs and handshakes were exchanged; neither of us can believe the stalk we just made. The other 2 bulls run away, but not too far, as Dad tries to get me to shoot one of them with his rifle, but I am set on taking an elk with my bow, so I decline. The 2 bulls then make their way away from us and all the commotion.

Many pictures were taken as we stand in awe of the size of this magnificent animal. Ty is an excellent photographer, and takes many pictures, most of them turning out great. We are standing there basically shocked, as neither of us ever really expected to harvest a bull of this size in our lives. This bull has it all, mass, beam and tine length, great royals, an amazing animal.

After the pictures are taken we take the truck back to the lodge to get the trailer to load the bull and get him back to the lodge for skinning. After we get the big bull on the trailer and head back towards the lodge, we spot the other 2 bulls bedded down in a low spot. The bulls are bedded down in a bowl shaped area, and with the wind, they are stalkable! We drop the bull off and grab a real quick bite to eat and rush back out to try for a third stalk of the day. Now one of these bulls is the white horned bull from last night, and the more I look at him, the better he looks, and the more I want him. The bull he is with is probably a higher scorer, but not as pretty. Both bulls are mainframe 6x6’s with small kickers on one side. White Horn has a split beam at the very end, and his buddy has a kicker sticking straight out to the side off his beam near the 5th point. What I love about White Horn is his tops. His royals are tall as are his 5th points, and when he holds his head up they stand up tall and beautiful.

We work our way slowly and quietly to the edge of the bowl they are bedded down in. I ease up to the edge and peer over with my rangefinder, 65 yards and laying down, too far for a shot. We just have to wait them out and hopefully they will move our direction. Dad is carrying my rifle just in case they get out of bow range. After we sit for a while Ty starts to move and motioning for me to follow him to the other side of the bowl. The elk are up and moving, as we move to the opposite side to intercept the elk, something happens and they decide to turn back and go to where we were just sitting. So we turn around and hustle back. White Horn climbs out of the bowl not 25 yards from me, and as I start to draw my bow, his buddy climbs up behind him and looks at me, and takes off, taking White Horn with him. They are not spooked, they did not smell us, but they know something isn’t right and get away from us. Now there are two options the elk have, open prairie, or timber. Guess which they choose, open prairie. Dad is now trying to hand me my rifle and telling me to shoot, while Ty is begging me to give him another chance for a stalk. It is still the first day, Ty wins, I want one with my bow. With the elk not going into the timber, stalking will be very difficult in the open, but the elk are heading towards a hill, and if we can get on the other side we may be able to intercept them. Since Dad’s hip is getting sore and he cannot move very fast, he stays behind as Ty and I nearly sprint a huge circle around the bulls. Through the timber, up and down hills, and way around the bulls we go. Ty can go up hills like a mountain goat, every time we top a hill I am at least 30 yards behind him and trying to catch up. We get out in the open and use the slightly uneven terrain to our advantage, and stay hidden from the bulls. As we near the spot where we think we should lay eyes on the bulls we see nothing. Did they turn around? Finally we spot Dad way on the other side where we left him and he is pointing for us to get down. It is about that time I spot the tops of antlers on the other side of the hill just below us.

We still have a great wind, and find some nice sagebrush to hide behind as the first bull tops the hill feeding broadside to us. This is very tempting, this is a very nice bull, but I can see the tops of White Horns antlers slowly coming our way. This bull spots us, but as a lump behind sagebrush he is unsure of what we are. Ty is tucked in right behind me, and the bull circles closer to us to get downwind for a closer investigation. This bull gets close, real close; nearly 20 yards away from us before he winds us and runs away. All the while Ty is filming him ready for me to shoot at any time, but I can see White Horn coming, and I want him. I turn and whisper to Ty, “big bull is coming! I need you to range him.” Ty looks over and sees him topping the hill and slowly turns his camera, quickly ranges the bull, and whispers “43 yards” to me. White Horn is walking broadside, so Ty cow calls to stop him as I come to full draw. He stops, but as he stops he turns and faces us. Uh-oh. I cannot hold at full draw forever, and I cannot shoot him as he stands. How long can he stand like this? Luckily for me not long, and he turns to continue walking broadside in front of me. Ty lets him clear some sagebrush and calls again. This time when he stops he is only slightly quartering towards me, but only slightly. I settle my pin and touch my release. The arrow leaves with a dull ‘thump’ from my bow, and I watch as the white feathers bury deep into the bull, just behind the front shoulder, a near perfect hit! The big bull is hurt bad, and only goes a few yards down the hill before going down. It is over quickly and I have my first elk with a bow!

Dad is watching the entire chain of events from his viewpoint several hundred yards away, and comes to us as fast as he can. More handshakes, more hugs, high fives, etc… Ty has great video of the whole thing, including my reaction after the shot, I am visibly excited, and those who know me know that does not happen often. We finally go to have a look at my bull. There is no tracking job required, we watched him fall not 60 yards from us. More pictures are taken, and the almost unreal events of the day are finally starting to sink in. We are still nearly in shock at the days events. We made 4 stalks on bull elk. 2 were successful. Dad took a 340 class bull; I took a 320 class bull with my bow. In the same day! Is this a dream? In a way yes it is, a dream of ours now fulfilled. This has been a trip of a lifetime for both of us, but I hope we will have many more such trips before our hunting time together is over.

We get the big bull back to the lodge and the guys start the skinning process. After this is done dinner is served and we get some much needed rest. Ty and I hiked nearly 9 miles and Dad made it 6 miles or so, surpassing his own expectations of his abilities.

The next day we sleep in and just relax around the lodge. Dad is really sore from all the hiking yesterday, so we just take it easy for most of the day. Ty has the day off from guiding, however, and with an antelope archery tag in his pocket, wants to go look for a good goat to try and stalk. Dad and I go with him looking for a nice goat, finding nothing in a stalkable position before dinner. After dinner Ty goes back out and locates a nice goat and comes back to the lodge to get to go with him for the attempted stalk. Dad decides he is too sore and elects to stay at the truck, so I grab the decoy and off we go. The antelope herd has one nice goat and several does, so sneaking up on them is difficult at best with all those eyes looking out. We round a hill and find them up and moving, so we get about 175 yards away and set up the decoy. The decoy does not produce the desired effect and the goat gathers his does and runs in the opposite direction. So much for our stalk, but antelope hunting with a bow could be very fun, and the time of year is good for Dad’s vacation time, so maybe next year….

7 ½ years of college and 2 degrees to get a decent job…. a whole buncha-thousand dollars
New wardrobe for first ‘professional’ career…. $1,000
Saving all the money from first professional job to elk hunt with favorite hunting partner and hero…. priceless

Still awake? congrats, you're done reading!
 
man I am so glad that your dad got well enough to hunt. You guys did really well and I am glad to hear it.
 
which moose and where? i'm down in a couple years. going to try to go after antelope next year, and a trip to africa either next summer or summer 09. i want all 3 moose, but the yukon's are very expensive hunts ~ 10-13k. a shiras or canadian hunt is much cheaper.
 
Coop, Minner, ya'll set a goal for a moose hunt, and I'll be with ya'll.  What kind of weapon would you bring down a moose with?
 
i would love to bowhunt for moose. but a .30-06 will take down any moose on the planet with the right bullet, and a good shot. though if i can manage i'll have a much bigger rifle in my possession by the time that rolls around. eskimos hunt alaskan moose with .22mags, though i'm not quite sure i'd want to try that. i'm a fan of big guns if you can handle the recoil and still shoot straight. dont' matter if you carry a howitzer if you can't hit what you're aiming at.

maddog got a moose with his '06, but he said it took him 3 shots, and the bullets didn't penetrate deeply, i'm curious to know what kind of bullets he was using.
 
Man, that is awesome Coop. Sounds like a trip of a lifetime, but I know you'll have more of them, so maybe not, HAHA! Awesome report man!
 

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