I have several calls but seldom use them. I do rattle horns and get good results just before rut and into rut. In the rut periodI keep quite. I have noticed that in this area the rut is at different times in different locations even twenty miles apart. Last year the rut was full head on during the first week of muzzle loader season, Early November. My hunting property is located near Fall Creek Falls Park. off Hwy 111. Another area I hunt, the rut seemed to be a little later, likearound thanksgiving to early December.