Floor repair

[Flipping WURMS]

here is some pics of what ive got rotted floor and runners,Is it worth fixin or is it junk

 

[Flipping WURMS]

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[JDK]

well u told me you had no money in the boat id think you could repair it cheaper then you could buy anything else.. although looks like a big project and a lot of work bud.. im sure nrg will chime in

 

[wrechin2]

If you like the boat and can do the work yourself, it is a great project and will be rewarding when done, If you have to pay someone., It won't be cheap and probably not worth it IMO. Correct me if I am wrong......I see the splash well drain is broken and has "OOOZE" running out of it and the engine bolt holes. Looks like it would need a re-core. transom, stringers, and floor.

 

[NRG]

WOW that boat is RUFFFFFFF .. it can be fixed .. but your looking at a total rebuild, stringers, floor transom.. everything .. even if you do it your self your looking at a min of 600-800 to do it .. in materials alone.. But if you like it and chances are anything you find in an alternative boat will need just as much work.. its hard to find any boat less than a 95 that dont need new floor, and or transom.
But this time of year its hard to do a boat over haul outside especially with the rain we've had.. and polyester resin must have 65 or warmer to cure properly.. the only thing I would work with in the winter is epoxy resin with a fast hardener works above 40 degrees.
Epoxy is a whole lot more expensive , but is the only way to go if you plan on keeping this boat 10 yrs plus! Epoxy is water proof and bonds permanently , unless poly that is not water proof and will de-laminate eventually .

THe cost to pay someone to do this job would be 2000-3000 maybe more depending on what you want when done .. paint , carpet , etc .. but you will have a boat that will last another 20 plus years.. minus the motor

 

[wrechin2]

Only thing is you don't want to invest 3K in a $800 boat. $800 in a $800 boat is ok. JMO....

Sean,
Anyone contact you about your OMC engine???

 

[NRG]

Personally Im done rebuilding boats for my self .. my next boat will be all composite boat.. Its fun but it takes a lot of time, and dont bother doing it unless your willing to do it correctly or your throwing away money ..and you will be doing it again soon if you dont do it correctly!

But if I was boat less and very short on cash .. Id go the rebuild route, giving that I had a good motor.
At least when you do it your self you know the boat inside and out.. no wondering how long it will be before you need to have the transom rebuilt... unlike many on here that have bought a boat fixed up the outside to make like new .. then find out within 6 months that the transom is rotted.. then they are at the point where the have invested a ton on motor and other stuff to find out they need a new transom ..

On ANY used boat that has wood, you can figure and count on some of the wood having rot.. and transom is the most likely culprit ,, Ranger , and Winner boats from 88 on both had fiberglass transoms .. and winners where all glass except the floors..
Both Winner and Ranger are heavy boats .. but less to worry about in structural failures from rot.

If you could find either of these 88 yr or newer, then you could spend more on motor work , cosmetics, electronics etc , and worry less about rot, and still be as cheap as fixing the one you have now

 

[Flipping WURMS]

IF i replace the runners fiberglass them in,then lay a 3/4 floor triple matt it down thencarpet that should be fine on the back i thought since there is a steel plate inside that i would patch thos holes then cover the back with diamond plate .that was my plan .whats the core?

 

[wrechin2]

Core is the "backbone" of the boat made out of wood. Transom, stringers, floor, ect...

 

[NRG]

Boats only have steel or alum plate , cause someone is trying to make it last a little bit longer.. the wood core ( plywood ) is the strength, the fiberglass adds strength but must be encased in glass, edges, top and bottom, once the wood core is gone the glass starts ripping and breaking.. and once rot starts they only way to stop is to remove the rotted wood, and get it clean and dry, before you lay in more glass.

To do this boat right you need to separate the top from the bottom and then plan on doing a lot of grinding, vacuuming, and wipe it all down with acetone. make sure you take lots of pics and measurements so that it will all fit back together properly.
I can send you a PDF book on the transom part.. it covers using polyester resins. epoxy is your best bet in the winter and will out last polyester resin .

To do stringers, floor, and transom on a 15-16 ft boat you can plan on a good 10 gallons of resin, you will need a variety of mats.. if you use poly resin you want at least enuff 1.5 oz mat to put two layers on the top side of the floor and one on the bottom.
The stringers and transom you are better off with epoxy resin, and any holes drilled to be filled and coated with epoxy resins.
For the stringers and transom with epoxy use 1208 or 1708 biaxal glass. if you use ployester resin , use 1.5 oz mat , and while its still wet uses the biaxal over that .. you want every bubble and air pocket out no matter what resin you use.

I get my epoxy resin at uscomposites.com .. no body sells it in the Chattanooga area cost for 10 gallons is 438 includes the hardener make sure you get fast hardener for 40-60 weather

for the best price on polyester resin get it at advanced plastics at 8928 Transport Lane Ooltewah, TN ph (423) 238-9303 ( cost is $108 per 5 gallon pale ) plus you will need the hardener you will need a good 10 gallons to do this project.

DO NOT use the crap they sell at auto body stores etc .. most of the time its out of date .. it has about a 8 month shelf life.. if you get from advanced plastics its fresh. and its a whole lot cheaper than the crapola they sell at auto stores, lowes etc .

Id be willing to show you what you need to do .. steps involved etc .. just do it right dont half **s it .. other wise why bother

 

[bass15]

Been there done that. Dont mess with it.Save the money and find a older bass tracker for 1000.00-1500.00.Then fix it up the way you want to fish.I started with a 12 ft vee aluminum and a 9.9.That was 13 years ago.Now I have a boat I like and fishes well.It has been a long road of putting money into projects that would just be absurd.I did this with a couple of boats.I like to fish alot and have what I believe is a decent boat capable and sturdy enough to fish anywhere I need to go.It is process if you fish a lot finding something suitable for all your needs and wants from a boat.

 

[2jigs]

bass15 - 1/4/2010 9:43 PM Been there done that. Dont mess with it.Save the money and find a older bass tracker for 1000.00-1500.00.Then fix it up the way you want to fish.I started with a 12 ft vee aluminum and a 9.9.That was 13 years ago.Now I have a boat I like and fishes well.It has been a long road of putting money into projects that would just be absurd.I did this with a couple of boats.I like to fish alot and have what I believe is a decent boat capable and sturdy enough to fish anywhere I need to go.It is process if you fish a lot finding something suitable for all your needs and wants from a boat.

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Erick how would ya like to have half the $$$ we threw away on old boats? emoBang emoBang emoBang </p>

I would listen to these guys, they know what they are talking about & have nothing to gain by telling you wrong! Save your $$$.</p>