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Help me out! Can I get some help on finding a picture or proof of any middle eastern country oil tanker anywhere in any sea port in the USA?
A very good friend of mine pointed out to me that he has never seen a tanker from the mid-east along the American shores or in any American port. Tony travels the world on a regular basis and very keen on facts. Tony was head of correspondence at Jacksonville University for several years as a young man. He has
Authored and published books, one of which is “White Death”. I am a member of SSI Sharkin Shark Fishing Research Team, out of St Simon Island, GA. Where Tony is our organizer. Tony is only approximately Thirty years old but is extremely well “Learned”. When the sharks are not in at the Georgia coast, Tony spends much of his time in the Orient, mostly in Thailand.
Tony stated to me that all the mid-eastern tankers that he sees are heading straight to China. He commented that he looks out of the plane windows and sees ships of all types but never a mid-east oil tanker in route to or from the USA.
According to him, the offshore oil we get and use comes from the gulf of Mexico and from oil tankers from Alaska. If we do not receive a single barrel of mid-east oil then what is all the hype. Why the price hikes? Why the ultimate sacrifice to protect mid eastern oil fields? Are we really that ignorant or misguided as American citizens to be fooled by our own leaders.Think of this, After 9/11 how could they even enter our ports?</p>

Food for thought and I am hungry for the facts.</p>
 
First, most ships are registered in countries that have low taxes. Bahamas, Liberia, Greece, Denmark, etc. It has little to do with where the product comes from.

Second, (this is based on pre-Iraq invasion numbers):

Amount of U.S. oil consumption that comes from U.S. production: 7.3 mbd, or 42 percent. We produce fifty percent more oil than Iraq and Kuwait, almost as much oil as Saudi Arabia and the Emirates. Nevertheless, we import more than half the oil we use.

Amount of U.S. oil consumption that comes from the Middle East: 2 mbd -- 12 percent, only three percent from Iraq and Kuwait. The rest of our imported oil comes from places like Canada, Venezuela, Mexico, Nigeria, Algeria, Ecuador, and England.

Source: http://www.sustainer.org/dhm_archive/index.php?display_article=vn355energyfactsed

Often times the oil is partial refined in a "friendly" country then imported, so some of what Canada, Venezuela, Mexico etc is importing is also Middle Eastern in origin and if fluctuates depending on current pricing.
 
Thanks. That has been a burning question with me ever since Tony told me that last week.

I figured that someone on CFF would have an answer for me. Thanks for the link.
I still do not agree with the price effects when so little is imported and what with all the years of reserve we have stored.
 
Liveliner - 7/17/2010 11:23 PM

...and what with all the years of reserve we have stored.

I think our oil reserves (ie out of the ground) can be measured in months not years. Also a large percentage of the oil in the ground will never economically feasible to pump out. The pumping and refining cost are just too high. Arabian oil is "sweet" in that it is very clean product so it doesn't take much refining. Additionally it is very easy to get to.
 
Bfish - 7/18/2010 12:48 PM

Liveliner - 7/17/2010 11:23 PM

...and what with all the years of reserve we have stored.

I think our oil reserves (ie out of the ground) can be measured in months not years. Also a large percentage of the oil in the ground will never economically feasible to pump out. The pumping and refining cost are just too high. Arabian oil is "sweet" in that it is very clean product so it doesn't take much refining. Additionally it is very easy to get to.

"up from the ground.. come a bubblin crude"........Literally
 
Liveliner - 7/18/2010 12:23 AM

Thanks. That has been a burning question with me ever since Tony told me that last week.

I figured that someone on CFF would have an answer for me. Thanks for the link.
I still do not agree with the price effects when so little is imported and what with all the years of reserve we have stored.

David here is another bit of food for thought. Take what you read here from known liberals with a grain of salt. I'm not saying this particular link is true or not. I'm just saying that you can find answers to any question you want from the world wide web. Consider the source.
 
<font size="2">Done a little checking with help from my brainiac son and now I have some facts about our oil. So here you are;</font></p><div><div><div><span style="font-size: 13px" class="Apple-style-span"><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt"><font face="Stone Serif"> The US consumes about 25% of the world's oil, but only controls about 3% (That includes Alaska and our interests in the <span class="yshortcuts">Gulf of Mexico</span>) of its supply, and much of what we use is middle-eastern oil (They have around 2/3 of the world's supply).</font></span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt"><font face="Stone Serif"> The reason you don’t see middle-eastern and many other foreign <span class="yshortcuts">oil tankers</span> in US ports is because <span class="yshortcuts">American companies</span> are the ones bringing it over. These companies' intent is to sell as much oil as possible. Why use their own oil to ship it here when they just sell us more to do it ourselves?</font></span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Stone Serif"><span style="font-size: 11pt">About 20-25%of our oil imports come from <span class="yshortcuts">Arab nations</span>. In fact we get as much oil from</span><span style="font-size: 11pt">Canada</span><span style="font-size: 11pt">and</span><span style="font-size: 11pt"><span class="yshortcuts">Mexico</span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt">as we do from</span><span style="font-size: 11pt"><span class="yshortcuts">Algeria</span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt">,</span><span style="font-size: 11pt"><span class="yshortcuts">Iraq</span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt">,</span><span style="font-size: 11pt"><span class="yshortcuts">Kuwait</span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt">,</span><span style="font-size: 11pt">Qatar</span><span style="font-size: 11pt">, and</span><span style="font-size: 11pt"><span class="yshortcuts">Saudi Arabia</span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt">combined.These are imports of only middle-eastern oil.</span></font></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt"><font face="Stone Serif" /></span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Stone Serif"><span style="font-size: 11pt">Shell purchased 3,611,000 barrels from</span><span style="font-size: 11pt">Kuwait</span><span style="font-size: 11pt">and</span><span style="font-size: 11pt">Saudi Arabia</span></font><span style="font-size: 11pt">
<font face="Stone Serif">BP purchased none from the</font></span><span style="font-size: 11pt"><font face="Stone Serif"><span class="yshortcuts">Middle East</span></font></span><font face="Stone Serif"><span style="font-size: 11pt">.
Chevron purchased 14,724,000 from the</span><span style="font-size: 11pt">Middle East</span></font><font face="Stone Serif"><span style="font-size: 11pt">.
Citgo-None from the</span><span style="font-size: 11pt">Middle East</span></font><font face="Stone Serif"><span style="font-size: 11pt">.
<span class="yshortcuts">Amoco</span> purchased 3,611,000 barrels from the</span><span style="font-size: 11pt">Middle East</span></font><font face="Stone Serif"><span style="font-size: 11pt">.
Exxon-Mobil combined purchased 13,273,000 barrels from the</span><span style="font-size: 11pt">Middle East</span></font><font face="Stone Serif"><span style="font-size: 11pt">.
</span><span style="font-size: 11pt">Marathon</span></font><font face="Stone Serif"><span style="font-size: 11pt">purchased 10,710,000 in Middle Eastern oil.
Sunoco purchased none from the</span><span style="font-size: 11pt"><span class="yshortcuts">Middle East</span></span></font><font face="Stone Serif"><span style="font-size: 11pt">.
<span class="yshortcuts">Conoco</span> purchased 523,000 from the</span><span style="font-size: 11pt">Middle East</span></font><font face="Stone Serif"><span style="font-size: 11pt">.
Sinclair-We didn't find any figures.
Phillips-We didn't find any Middle Eastern purchases.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt" /></font></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt"><font face="Stone Serif" /></span></p></span></div></div></div>
 

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