Goodbye to the grass on the Big G...boycott Scottsboro?

[CouchTater]

The Jackson County Commission is thinking about funding the idiots of the "Rescue Group" after all. They won't approve security measures at the courthouse where not too long ago people were shot. Instead the commision is thinking about giving the already rich landowners in Roseberry $42,500 but wouldn't fund the security measures which happens to be an Alabama Law.

They have already sprayed twice in there with another treatment coming up.

Everyone that I have talked to that has fished in there say either the bass have moved out or are dead. The shad are gone too. I have heard talk around town of different anglers who are boycotting everything in Scottsboro, fast food, gas etc. Alot of the landowners in Roseberry are business people with business in town or the county.

There isn't a good out look on this, who is to say that the chemicals dont leech out in the river? Everything from Jackson County park down is dead. Guess the almighty Jackson County Commission and the business owners WILL feel the pinch when the grass is gone and all the income is gone too.


JCC to consider weed eradication payment

By Chasity Brown
The Daily Sentinel

Published May 26, 2009

The Jackson County Commission has agreed to address the Roseberry Creek weed eradication issue again.

Retired Judge Wallace Haralson, spokesperson for the Roseberry Rescue Group, addressed the commission at its Thursday meeting to update the commissioners on the group's progress and to again ask that the commission participate in funding the group's plans to spray for milfoil and hydrilla in the Roseberry Creek embayment.

The group had previously asked the commission to pay $42,500 for the treatment, joining the homeowners association, the Scottsboro City Council and the Jackson County Legislative Delegation in equally sharing the cost of the $170,000 fluridone treatment. Commissioner Horace Clemmons made a motion to not fund the commission's part of the project, but his motion died for lack of a second, and no other commissioner made a motion on the subject.

Haralson reported that the legislative delegation, city council and homeowners association have all given their share of the funding, and the treatments have begun. Two treatments of fluridone have been conducted in the embayment, and they should be completed by mid-June, Haralson said.

"The weeds are dying as we speak," Haralson said.

Haralson said the group is hoping to find a long-term solution to the weed infiltration in all of Lake Guntersville, but until then, he asked the commission to reconsider the motion to provide the county's share of the cost for treatment.

The commission voted to table the matter until its next meeting, promising Haralson it would be placed on the agenda for discussion.

 

[AThornton]

Hate to see it happen. But the rich usually get what they want...

 

[yellburt]

<font face="andale mono,times" color="#cc0000" size="7">want be needing any more ala fishing license.now or ever..emoUSA </font>

 

[TightlineT]

Do we stick together or what?

I for one can fish at the Nick or the Chick and have bought my last AL license if this is what they want. IF they do this down there, it will give folks up here more ideas of spraying again, which I understand hurt the fishing really bad (I don't know, I've bought AL license since I've been fishing and have always fished down there until this year).

 

[blazer]

you would think they would realize how much money fishing brings to the area,and once the fishing starts to decline so will the money.
im with you yellburt,at least i want need a ala. fishing license anymore,but on the bright side i can take that money and buy a couple of luckycrafts.

 

[ukfod1]

I heard about the spraying today at work. We did not know they already have sprayed twice and I will pass that on in the morning. I have no problem boycotting anything and spending my money elsewhere

 

[TightlineT]

No more Al fishing license, no more hotel rooms, no more Mickey d's, Western Sizzlin', or domino's pizza. If it happens down there, it will happen again up here. I know people who already complain about the grass because they don't think 40' of water in the main channel is enough - they need the backwater, the creeks, the edges and everything in between. emoAngry

 

[CouchTater]

blazer - 5/26/2009 9:16 PM

you would think they would realize how much money fishing brings to the area,and once the fishing starts to decline so will the money.
im with you yellburt,at least i want need a ala. fishing license anymore,but on the bright side i can take that money and buy a couple of luckycrafts.

Maybe they will once people quit coming from ohio north carolina, Tenn, Miss., Missouri, Florida (yea I have seen florida tags) I cant remember which Lane brother it was but he moved from Florida to Guntersville because he said he can fish Guntersville and practice for different lakes and that fishing the grass was great. In more words than that.

If the stuff they put on there is as powerful as I have read about you can imagine what it is going to do to the lake. They are spraying 300 acres of the water. Here are some pictures of what Fluridone will do to a small area of water:

BEFORE:

AFTER:

This chemical is designed to kill at the root so the hydrilla that is in there now will continue to grow but once it reaches the hieght to mat up it will break loose and float off. Instead of reproducing as it normally does when the hydrilla breaks off, the poison will kill the plant. With the treatment that is planned in June, any grass that is attemping to grow the root system will be weakend and will break off even shorter lengths than the first treatment.

Where is the water going to go that has been treated? Right down river to North Sauty (goose pond) South Sauty, Mink Creek, Pine Island, Preston Boshart Seibold and guntersville itself. If im not mistaken isnt this what Happened to Kentucky lake? The plan was to kill off a certain area and it killed the ENTIRE lake in the early 90's?

It just goes to show that a few people with enough money to by a 75,000 to 150,000 lake lot on Goosepond start throwing money around can do. Especially when the idiots in the local guberment (intentional mispelling ) get the hands that feed them in there pocket.

I hope everyone stops coming to Scottsboro, I can remember when it was nothing until the fishing got really good then boomed up with revenue. Maybe then they will learn from there mistakes, but make no mistake about it, the Roseberry Rescue Group was qouted by saying they plan on raising enough money to treat the entire lake and rid it of the cash crop.
emoConfused

 

[bassin1815]

Looks like the people who supplied the roseberry group with all that money to kill all the grass off the lake has more money than they have common sense.They are going to regret killing the grass on the lake.With the grass gone so will all the big bass.The communities around the lake are going to suffer
from this.Fisherman will be going somewhere else to fish and spend there money plus this is going to make it harder on the local guides.The scottsboro area will probably loose millions of dollars because of this.Of course this is just my opinion.

 

[hookset]

Once the grass is gone they can say GOODBYE to the FLW and BASS tournaments. Look at how many times these groups have been back to the Chick after they eradicated the vegitation. How many years has it been? The grass is just now coming back pretty good in some areas. The local economy will loose millions of dollars. This is an unfortunate action by the "recreational boaters."

 

[Fishin Fool]

I don't fish down there, but I can sure understand how mad the folks that do are about now. Years ago, here in the Chick, we had natural grass growing along the banks. I'm not talking about milfoil, although we had that too. The spraying that was done wiped out NATIVE plants as well as the targeted, so called "invasive" plants. Bank erosion, loss of cover for spawning followed. For years the Chick was a ghost town and not even a shadow of what it once was in the 60's and 70's. Milfoil, spiny leaf, and various other plants have been making a comeback for the past decade or so. It doesn't top out in most places but it is still there in large patches and is helping make the Chick what it is today. I'm sure it won't be long before the rich folks decide to take another shot at the Chick and we'll be in the same shape we were in the 80's. It is already happening in the Skull Island area.

 

[Bprice]

I missed the quote from the Roseberry group saying they wanted to spray the entire lake? Where was that at...

 

[hl&s]

Bprice - 5/27/2009 8:24 AM

I missed the quote from the Roseberry group saying they wanted to spray the entire lake? Where was that at...

I was looking for that quote too. Couldn't find an official newspaper, radio, or tv statement but did find this from a Guntersville guide service website.

[Some sources reported to me today that this Judge Harrelson, who is said to be the leader of the Roseberry rescue group has been talking out of two sides of his face. Word is that the Judge don't care about any boycotts, because he don't make his money from Scottsboro businesses anyway. Apparently he doesn't care about harm that can come to the Scottsboro tourism industry. I'm hoping I can get a hold of him and quote him on some of this as I begin to write the articles and do the radio interviews about the situation. I hear there is a piece in the paper quoting the Judge as to how he plans to deal with the grass "infestation" on the entire lake. I'm going to try to read that, but I won't be buying a paper to do it... I'm thinking that this guy is the last person Guntersville needs in charge of grass management.]

Haralson and his group have presented their proposal to at least one facility for the aging. Good place to look for support and a little cash.

It's a very heated subject around Scottsboro. I'm gonna boycott and not renew my Al license this year. Roseberry Creek was one of my favorites.

 

[swamp]

When Thunder Thortons development gets fully occupied,you will see the same thing happen on nick-a-jack.

 

[AThornton]

swamp - 5/27/2009 3:37 PM

When Thunder Thortons development gets fully occupied,you will see the same thing happen on nick-a-jack.

And just for the record, I am in no way related to him emoBigsmile

 

[finbully]

Even more reason to fish in TN. I hope the people here in TN have a little bit more common sense than the wizards in AL.

 

[beetlespin]

Get it all!!! its an eye sore and most people can't fish in it anyway.

 

[CouchTater]

Bprice - 5/27/2009 8:24 AM

I missed the quote from the Roseberry group saying they wanted to spray the entire lake? Where was that at...

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hl&s <font size="2">5/27/2009 11:58 AM </font>I was looking for that quote too. Couldn't find an official newspaper, radio, or tv statement but did find this from a Guntersville guide service website.

Guys read the first post its in there.... Scroll to were it says:</p>

"The weeds are dying as we speak," Haralson said.

Haralson said the group is hoping to find a long-term solution to the weed infiltration in all of Lake Guntersville, but until then, he asked the commission to reconsider the motion to provide the county's share of the cost for treatment.</p>

Here is the link to the story which is an exact copy in the first post: http://thedailysentinel.com/story.lasso?ewcd=a19d25e430245260</p>

That excerptis from the The Daily Sentinel and was spoken by Judge Haralson, one of the Roseberry Rescue Group's spokesperson and a landowner. It's coming wait and see if they don't raise enough money that every cove and creek in Guntersville is weedless with-in 5 years.The numbers mysteriously jumped from 300 to 900 acres of water they plan on treating this summer. Roseberry is estimated to be 1,200 acres. This will not be good; you take enough chemical to spray 900 acres and will not have any chemicals leech into the river I don't buy it at all. At the least the chemical will probablyaffect the area from JCPark to the Power Lines below Chisenal Springs before it dissipates. </p>

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[CouchTater]

BTW, it was kinda Ironic that the Ad Banner when I clicked on this topic was a banner that read; "End weed problems at the Weed Killer Super Store" lol

 

[MrWiskers]

CouchTater - 5/27/2009 10:37 PM BTW, it was kinda Ironic that the Ad Banner when I clicked on this topic was a banner that read; "End weed problems at the Weed Killer Super Store" lol

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Yep. Same banner for me. Good way to fund the forum buy destorying the fishery.</p>