Have the terrorists won?

[SpurHunter]

<font size="3">Their goal is to instill fear in the country, so that we will turn on each other, and to destroy civilized society......I think they are winning. </font></p>

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</p><h2 class="title icon">TSA: Travelers Who Refuse Scanning Can’t Leave, Will Be Fined </h2><div class="content"><div id="post_message_641852"><blockquote><a href="http://news.antiwar.com/2010/11/19/tsa-travelers-who-refuse-scanning-cant-leave-will-be-fined/" target="_blank">




Passengers 'Can Not Just Decide to Leave'

by Jason Ditz, November 19, 2010

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<font color="#000000">TSA: Travelers Who Refuse Scanning Can’t Leave, Will Be Fined -- News from Antiwar.com</font>

Faced with the prospect of large numbers of people refusing the invasive “screening” measures they’ve implemented this holiday season, the TSA is hoping to fight back with threats of fine and arrest.
</p></a>Faced with the prospect of large numbers of people refusing the invasive “screening” measures they’ve implemented this holiday season, the TSA is hoping to fight back with threats of fine and arrest.by Jason Ditz, November 19, 2010 Faced with the prospect of large numbers of people refusing the invasive “screening” measures they’ve implemented this holiday season, the TSA is hoping to fight back with threats of fine and arrest.

“<font color="#000000">Once a person submits to the screening process, they can not just decide to leave” warned Sari Koshetz, a TSA spokesperson.</font> TSA officials say that anyone refusing both the “full body scanners” and the “enhanced pat down” procedures will be taken into custody.
Once there the detainees will not only be barred from flying, but will be held indefinitely as suspected terrorists, face fines of up to $11,000 and may also be turned over to local police. <font color="#000000">One sheriff’s office said they were already preparing to handle a large number of detainees and plan to treat them as terror suspects</font>, held until they are convinced they don’t pose a terror threat.
The TSA genital “patdowns” have led to threats from some local prosecutors to charge them with sexual assault, but the TSA has shrugged off public outcry over the measures and seems more intent than ever on cowing the public into submission. </p></blockquote></div></div>

 

[Guest]

There is a simple answer to this crap. If everybody that did not absolutely have to fly would not fly then THAT would bring this junk to a halt. Just like the $5 gas from a couple years ago. It is our own fault.

 

[oggism]

"There is a simple answer to this crap. If everybody that did not absolutely have to fly would not fly then THAT would bring this junk to a halt. Just like the $5 gas from a couple years ago. It is our own fault."

WHAT HE SAID

 

[beetlespin]

+1 what cheez said.

 

[rstewart]

cheez - 11/26/2010 12:19 PM

There is a simple answer to this crap. If everybody that did not absolutely have to fly would not fly then THAT would bring this junk to a halt. Just like the $5 gas from a couple years ago. It is our own fault.

But isn't that what bin Laden and his crew want? To disrupt our lives. I say no way do we give that bastard what he desires. If we follow this advice he definitely has won.

 

[trashtrout]

I look at it this way.If your child came in bleeding from a dog bite and said that a white dog had bitten him,would you go look at everydog in the neighbor hood and check for blood on them,well hell no.You would go look at white ones..We are at war with these people whether the spineless want to admit it or not.PROFILE and quit all the stupid political correctness bullspit.

 

[bent rod]

I don't really get why this is in this forum but anyway, Feel me or Kill me, I'm going with the first at 30,000 ft. Hey EriC, did the guy laugh when he checked you?

 

[Possum]

Media has blown this way out of proportion. I would dare say very few of you have flown lately. My wife is a Radioligist, and she says the scanners puts out like nothing. Go through the dag gum scanner or like cheez said, drive or buy your own plane. You have a choice. You would even be suprised what they will let you carry on. I will say this if you go on a fly fishing trip they will let you carry on outfit, flys and all. Good people with a very difficult job to do. Put yourself in their position. Lots of responsibility goes with that job buddy, and dealing with the public on top of that, I am sure they are under paid.

 

[trashtrout]

I am not downing the TSA employees, they have a job to do.I have to do things in my job that dont make any sense at all but thats what they pay me to do.I just think there is a better way to decided who to check than a random number.I just think Profiling is the way to go.I will just go through the scanner.

 

[fischnrod]

<font size="7">Let's Roll!!!</font>

 

[tie1on]

UNIONS, UNIONS, UNIONS! Oh, and BIG GOV!

 

[outcaster]

tie1on - 11/27/2010 4:00 PM

UNIONS, UNIONS, UNIONS! Oh, and BIG GOV!

You left out Socialism and Obama lol

 

[outcaster]

trashtrout - 11/27/2010 11:08 AM

I look at it this way.If your child came in bleeding from a dog bite and said that a white dog had bitten him,would you go look at everydog in the neighbor hood and check for blood on them,well hell no.You would go look at white ones..We are at war with these people whether the spineless want to admit it or not.PROFILE and quit all the stupid political correctness bullspit.

So if your child got bit by a "white" dog, does that also mean that only "white" dogs bite? That line of thinking is short sighted and ignorant

 

[trashtrout]

I think it is pretty clear which group has been trying to sneak explosives on planes. And yes they are recruiting others to do the job but I dont think that Nuns and young kids have joined up yet. Check out how Israel does screenings at airports, but oh we couldnt do that over here cause it might make someone feel uncomfortable.

 

[outcaster]

trashtrout - 11/27/2010 7:18 PM

I think it is pretty clear which group has been trying to sneak explosives on planes. And yes they are recruiting others to do the job but I dont think that Nuns and young kids have joined up yet. Check out how Israel does screenings at airports, but oh we couldnt do that over here cause it might make someone feel uncomfortable.

If you start profiling "white" dogs, ie dark skinned black haired Middle Eastern looking individuals, how long will it take for the terrorist to start using bombers from Somalia, or Kenya, or eastern Europe (they look just like us).

 

[Kirk]

All they need is a self contained booth to have everyone walk in to single file. The door closes and if you are hiding explosives on your body a radio charge detonates them. The bottom drops out, a high pressure spray removes the blood and guts. The room opens and the next passenger walks in. Simple. effective and no awkward pat downs or revealing scans.

 

[spnplgr]

Yep, they're winning and will continue to do so until we wise up. The bleeding heart, liberal, politically correct bumpkins are endangering our lives more with each passing day. But be of good heart. The winds of change are blowing. Just wait til 2013 and you will see things begin to change, BIG TIME. I predict this change will be for the better, much to the chagrin of the touchy feely, politically correct American cowards in charge.

 

[Guest]

spnplgr - 11/29/2010 1:31 AM

Yep, they're winning and will continue to do so until we wise up. The bleeding heart, liberal, politically correct bumpkins are endangering our lives more with each passing day. But be of good heart. The winds of change are blowing. Just wait til 2013 and you will see things begin to change, BIG TIME. I predict this change will be for the better, much to the chagrin of the touchy feely, politically correct American cowards in charge.

Best post I have seen in a while. I hope and pray you are 100% correct.

 

[Bprice]

I fly a lot. Too much, about 28 trips this year. I believe that there should be some level of profiling involved with the TSA. Points of origination, destination, one-way tickets, etc... I think they can systematically eliminate a large group of people from these Privacy Invading searches. The TSA Agents I know don't even agree with the full on pat downs and believe they are a waste of time. I got a pat down two weeks ago, and the TSA Agent knew me from being a regular. They admit its a waste of time to the majority of people and the focus should be narrowed down.

The pat down is VERY VERY invasive and it is not blown out of proportion by the media. I speak from experience. We as Americans excepting this blatant invasion of privacy are just conditioning ourselves for more invasive techniques. Before you know it our freedoms will continue to slip through our fingers for the sake of SAFETY. Hog wash.

For now on, I am opting to drive to DC and Baltimore (two of my regular destinations).

 

[Guest]

Good for you Brandon. If I choose to I could fly to my work destinations a couple dozen times per year. I choose not to fly for many reasons and the garbage you have to go through at the airports is at the top of my list.