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Tennessee’s Lane Kiffin declares recruiting war on Georgia
12:54 am October 13, 2009, by Chip Towers


As it turns out, erecting billboards was just Phase One of Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin's plans to lay siege to Atlanta.

Here in Georgia, all the talk after this past Saturday’s 45-19 whipping at the hands of Tennessee centered around what’s wrong with the Bulldogs’ defense and whether a change of coordinators was the only way to fix it. But back up on Rocky Top the story of the game was what the Vols’ victory might do for their recruiting.

Tennessee, as most folks are aware, doesn’t produce much in the way of four- and five-star recruiting prospects. Georgia, as we all know, produces a lot. So shortly after Saturday’s game, the Vols’ brash young coach Lane Kiffin effectively declared our fair state a war zone.

“I know there are a lot of great teams in this conference,” Kiffin told reporters. “But I told [the team], to me, this is the biggest matchup, Georgia. Because of what we do recruiting, for this staff, this is the biggest matchup.”

That, my friends, is drawing a line in the Georgia red clay.

Kiffin was reportedly even more pointed with his players in the celebratory postgame locker room.

“He basically made a promise to us that we wouldn’t lose to them anymore, forever or until he leaves,” All-America safety and Atlanta native Eric Berry said. “He’s not going to let Georgia beat us.”

That certainly put a bug in the ear of the Tennessee media. John Adams, the respected veteran columnist of the Knoxville News-Sentinel, wrote about the potential recruiting impact of the win not just in Georgia but across to country. And ESPN’s SEC blogger Chris Low, who lives in Knoxville, weighed in on the recruiting theme in his Sunday column. And on and on it has been repeated.

Give Kiffin this: It is a proven formula for the Vols. Lest we forget, it was with considerable contributions from Atlantans Jamal Lewis, Cosey Coleman and Deon Grant that UT won the 1998 national championship.

Probably the most important thing Georgia has done in the past decade, between Jim Donnan, Rodney Garner and Mark Richt, is reestablish a recruiting stronghold in metro Atlanta and at least dam to a trickle the flow of talent 3 1/2 hours north to Knoxville. Kiffin was subtle at first, having billboards erected around Atlanta. Now he has publically declared he intends to blow up said dam.

To date, that hasn’t happened. Kiffin currently has commitments from two of our citizens: Super 11 wide receiver Markieth Ambles of McDonough-Henry County and middle linebacker Michael Taylor of Atlanta-Westlake. But the present prize the Vols are battling Georgia for is 6-foot-6, 300-pound offensive tackle JaWuan James of North Gwinnett High in Suwanee. The former Alabama commitment just happened to be in attendance as UT’s official guest at Saturday’s game in Knoxville. He spent the previous two weekends in Athens. James is about feel what it’s like to be the rope in a game of tug of war.

My old buddy Jimmy Hyams called me Monday and asked me come on his Knoxville radio show (WNML-AM) Monday afternoon to “talk about the fallout of Georgia’s loss to Tennessee.” I did and he asked if I thought one game like that one could turn the tide against the Bulldogs.

No, I told him, I thought Kiffin was a little premature planting his Big Orange flag atop Stone Mountain based on one victory. But string several together like Phil Fulmer and the Vols did in the 1990s and the Dogs could be in trouble.
 
I like how he guarantees his players that they will never lose to UGA while he is their coach.....

I'm sorry, but you don't make a promise like that, no matter which opponent you are talking about. That is simply asinine
 
fishinvol - 10/13/2009 4:59 PM

You guys get bent out of shape over anything Kiffin says. Its all recruiting talk, and it seems to be working.

I expect Tennessee to finish ranked fifth or sixth in recruiting. If tennessee finishes any higher than that I will be suprised.


That wouldn't be considered working would it?
 
SPOON - 10/13/2009 4:33 PM
fishinvol - 10/13/2009 4:59 PMYou guys get bent out of shape over anything Kiffin says. Its all recruiting talk, and it seems to be working.
I expect Tennessee to finish ranked fifth or sixth in recruiting. If tennessee finishes any higher than that I will be suprised. That wouldn't be considered working would it?
Lets see...finished with a losing record last year and still finished in the top ten in recruiting. This year may not have a winning record again and they will finish in the top ten in recruiting again. Hmmmm........you tell me , is it working?? I think so.
 
Where you finish ranked in recruiting means nothing. You're trying to tell me that a 4 star from California is better than a 3 star from Florida?
 
Lets see...finished with a losing record last year and still finished in the top ten in recruiting. This year may not have a winning record again and they will finish in the top ten in recruiting again. Hmmmm........you tell me , is it working?? I think so



There is only twelve teams in the SEC, I wouldn't think it would take alot of effort to finish in the top ten.
 
Tennessee has done very well recruiting over the years... which shows how poor the coaching has been recently. If you have great recruits and still can't have a winning season, something ain't add'n up...
 
Bprice - 10/13/2009 8:38 PM Spoon, what fv was saying is top ten in the nation last year, not the SEC.
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Bingo. Oh and Danny I agree. Spork just brought up the recruiting thing, so I dropped some knowledge :) . Recruiting is so inexact , you can never depend on it. I go with what the coaches think are good players.</p>
 
Agreed Danny, stars aren't everything, but they are something.

Montori Hughes - 2*
Chris Donald - 5*

Not even close in current talent
 
fishinvol - 10/13/2009 10:04 PM



Bprice - 10/13/2009 8:38 PM Spoon, what fv was saying is top ten in the nation last year, not the SEC.
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Bingo.  Oh and Danny I agree. Spork just brought up the recruiting thing, so I dropped some knowledge  :) . Recruiting is so inexact , you can never depend on it. I go with what the coaches think are good players.</p>

I only concern myself with the SEC teams because the SEC will out recruit any conference, hands down.

All other confereces are regional but the SEC is national as far as tv exposure is concerned because of the TV deal. This could not have happened at a better time.

To put this in perspective Vandy will take home more network T.V. football money this season than Texas!
That alone gives the SEC schools an advantage in recruiting. I believe that it is possible for six teams from the SEC to finish in the top ten, if not this year then next year.

On the subject of recruiting rankings. When recruiting rankings first started they were not very reliable but now they are. You can compare recruiting rankings with who won a NC and see they are.
 
Caleb King was a 5* RB in High School....yea that really panned out for us Dawgs

And Spoon, since you only concern yourself with the SEC....


UT was 1st nationally in 05, 4th nationally in 07, and 8th nationally in 09

In those latter two years, they were 2nd in the SEC in 07 behind Florida, and 4th in 09 behind Alabama, LSU, and UGA

UT is doing just fine in recruiting, and it looks like they are getting even better. But take my Dawgs for example. Hard to beat their recruiting the last decade, but we haven't gotten over the hump and truly capitalized on it yet. So it doesn't matter what players you get, it's what you do with those players
 
XLDVee - 10/13/2009 11:01 PM

Caleb King was a 5* RB in High School....yea that really panned out for us Dawgs

And Spoon, since you only concern yourself with the SEC....


UT was 1st nationally in 05, 4th nationally in 07, and 8th nationally in 09

In those latter two years, they were 2nd in the SEC in 07 behind Florida, and 4th in 09 behind Alabama, LSU, and UGA

UT is doing just fine in recruiting, and it looks like they are getting even better. But take my Dawgs for example. Hard to beat their recruiting the last decade, but we haven't gotten over the hump and truly capitalized on it yet. So it doesn't matter what players you get, it's what you do with those players

Recruiting alone doesn't guarentee success no more than a good coach does, but when those two meet good things are bound to happen. YOU CAN'T MAKE A SILK PURSE OUT OF A HOGS EAR!

Mark Richt is one of my favorite coaches, a real class act, but he is loyal to his assistants to a fault. Loyalty to assistants was Fulmers problem as well as Bobby Bowden.

Tennessee has the largest recruiting budget in the nation. They know how important it is.
 

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