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tennfisher

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Fellow CFFers.

I could really use some advice from those of you who are Humminbird 797 owners. I have actually purchased a 797C SI, that just came in last week. Then I ran across a whole bunch of threads on the crappie.com forum that were very critical of the GPS capabilities of the 797, specifically that it was very difficult to navigate back to a spot that you had marked because of a slow refresh rate on the GPS. I am trying to decide whether to proceed with the installation or send it back and wait until the problem is resolved. My search of 797 threads on our forum doesn't turn up any such comments. If you own one of these units, are there any comments about your satisfaction that you would be willing to share? emoScratch emoScratch

Tennfisher
 
Send a PM to Shilohred (Pete). He not only has one and has mastered the technology to an art form, but he is a great guy and more than willing to share his hours of perfecting it's use. See what he says.... and when he showed me how you can get back to tagged points of interest such as a rock pile or in his case a couple of logs that were on the bottom of the river, he was able to pull them up and drive right up to them. Didn't experience the inability to refresh and get back on the spot we had marked.... see what Pete has to share. Tell you what though.... do some neck exercises... you can't take your eyes off that thing for the entire first day. Your neck is gonna be SORE! emoLaugh
 
Thanks for the replies. Buying this unit was a significant investment for me and after reading the bad reviews on crappie.com I was feeling just a bit sick.

Tennfisher
 
I'd probably just consider the sources.... those guys aren't probablly the brightest bulbs and couldn't figure it out. Like most tech things you buy, if you don't read the book, learn how to use it, you aren't going to be successful until you do or get tired of banging your head on the wall trying to figure it out. Maybe hit up one of these guys on here who has one and go spend a fishing trip to get some pointers.... first hand is always a great way to shorten the learning curve. But from what I hear, unless you are a speed freak, you COULD wet your pants going fishin' with BS....
 
In most cases, poor GPS accuracy is a result of poor antenna positioning or terrain. The signals from GPS satellites are relatively weak, so just about any object will obscure the signal. If your antenna is flush mounted to your rear casting deck, for example, then you, your passenger, your console, your outboard, or your rear pedestal seat could block satellite reception. The antenna that comes with the Humminbird combos is a good antenna, but only if it's mounted properly. Mount the antenna as close to the center of the boat as possible and above fixed objects that might block reception. Put it on a stem if necessary, but don't go so high it'll be a hindrance to casting.

The effective reception area for a GPS antenna is from 10 degrees above the horizon to directly overhead for a full 360 degrees around the antenna. The more satellites visible to the antenna, the more accurate your position can be calculated. Every satellite continuously sends out out a signal that basically includes a time stamp and the satellite's position at that time. The GPS unit uses the time stamp to calculate how long it took the signal to travel from the satellite to figure your altitude, and uses the position information from the satellite to triangulate your latitude and longitude, correcting for altitude. For a GPS to effectively generate a 3D position, the antenna needs to lock on to at least four satellites. A GPS can 'guess' your 2D position fairly accurately using only three satellites, by assuming your elevation above sea level, but you know what they say about assumptions...

Cloud cover, atmospheric distortion, and even the magnetic field of the earth all affect how long it takes the signal to travel from the satellite to your GPS unit, adversely affecting accuracy. To offset interference and distortion, WAAS was developed. Simply put, there are GPS receivers scattered across North America that know their exact 3D position on the globe. They calculate their position based on the signals they receive from visible satellites and compare the calculated result to their known position. The difference is used to calculate positional error and generate corrections. The corrections are relayed to satellites and then broadcast back to earth as WAAS signals. By applying the corrections to the GPS signals, current GPS+WAAS receivers are capable of accuracies down to +/-1 meter and can easily achieve those numbers under the right conditions. Unfortunately, most rivers run though valleys that are surrounded by tree-covered hills. You can lose a lot of visible sky to that kind of terrain, so even with a properly mounted antenna accuracy may suffer.

Play it safe. *Never* rely entirely on GPS to navigate your boat. Expect your average 3D positional accuracy to be around +/-3 meters, even on fairly open water. When you mark a waypoint on your GPS, also use landmarks to visually triangulate your position. Keep a notebook handy. Jot down the waypoint number, draw a triangle around it, and on each point of the triangle, jot down landmarks. I've fished with old salts that are as accurate as a GPS unit. They can effortlessly take you to the same brush piles, out in the middle of nowhere, day after day. That's a skill everyone should develop.
 
I use a 797c and it puts me a lot closer than the 3 feet that GPS claims. I've had no problems with refresh rates. Sounds like it might be the people operating the 797 that don't have a clue how to use it.
 
Fishin Fool - 1/25/2009 10:48 AM I use a 797c and it puts me a lot closer than the 3 feet that GPS claims. I've had no problems with refresh rates. Sounds like it might be the people operating the 797 that don't have a clue how to use it.
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We got to get together for a trip soon,, id love to see some views of Riverpark on that sideimaging unit..
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