Meanmouth info 1/7/2007

[bass15]

I caught a five pound fish today on nickajack and I think it's a hybrid. It has a tooth patch on the tongue but looks like a non-barred smallie. Any info on this anybody. I'll post some pictures soon.

 

[Guest]

Yep, alot of those being caught.I fished at the riverpark last friday and did the same with the spot on the tongue.We have started seeing more and more each year, I guess they have really took a likeing to each other LOL

 

[DACHEEK]

If you come to the Mtns to fish(Nottely, Hiwassee, and Chatuge), be ready to catch a bunch! Here is a pic of one off Hiwassee early this past fall!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/dacheek/fishpics/hiwassee003.jpg

 

[2jigs]

I believe Pointer & myself got one of those Sat.

 

[keithcatfish]

I caught a hybrid on Watts this weekend too. It looked just like a smallmouth but had a tooth patch. I think this makes it a smallmouth/spot hybrid, not a meanmouth.

 

[Buoy-Master]

Count me on an a 2 pounder Smallie with a patch on the tongue. </p>

Someone called it a Suawnee bass?

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[MadBomber]

Smallmouth do have a tooth patch!  That's not a definitive ID for a Meanmouth!</p>

That's straight info from the Fishery Biologists.</p>

 

[Guest]

Thanks Madbomber.emoThumbsup I knew of this toothpatch on sm in the tva Tenn. river impoundment area. I found out about it doing A WHOLE LOT of surfing on the net. emoBigsmile. .

 

[Buoy-Master]

Weird huh...</p>

We had that 4.5 pounder with out a patch and my 2 pounder with a patch. </p>

 

[MadBomber]

That is weird! 

  We had this same discussion about a month ago and I posted an excerpt from a book "Fishes of Tennessee!   

 

[bass15]

Does anyone know a fisheries biologist that can look at this fish . It's the only one that I've kept ever and I only did so because of thinking that it was a hybrid and was sterile. To be honest , I've never looked very close at a smallmouths tongue. What's the record for a hybrid , That 7 -10 on the site looks just like the one I caught.

 

[Buoy-Master]

MadBomber - 1/8/2007 4:07 PM That is weird! 

  We had this same discussion about a month ago and I posted an excerpt from a book "Fishes of Tennessee!   

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May have. Probably about the time I was digging into my studio and passing through here. If I missed the details, I apologize 

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[rsimms]

bass15 - 1/8/2007 6:51 PM

Does anyone know a fisheries biologist that can look at this fish . It's the only one that I've kept ever and I only did so because of thinking that it was a hybrid and was sterile. To be honest , I've never looked very close at a smallmouths tongue. What's the record for a hybrid , That 7 -10 on the site looks just like the one I caught.

Try sending an e-mail to [email protected] (Mike Jolley) and see if he's interested. The only sure fire way to determine is via DNA analysis and of course there is a cost involved. I have no idea if Mike would be interested enough for the state to foot the bill or not. They probably would not unless there is a potential "record" involved. They'd have every CFF member requested DNA analysis if they did. emoBigsmile But he might help you out if you're willing to pay. No, I do not know what it costs.

 

[bass15]

I'm almost convinced it's a hybrid. I'll let you guys know.I wish it would show up to be a spot.Thanks

 

[BigFishGuide]

The state of TN does not even recognize hybrid bass fish as a species. No record status for a hybrid. The Tennessee tax payers paid for my fish's DNA but it would was marked as a potential state record.

bass15 if ithe fish is a 5lb spot, Why did you not have the fish certified. Fish must be alive when weighed on certified scales for the fish to be considered for a state record. The state record is only 5lbs 8oz?????emoScratch

 

[MadBomber]

rsimms - 1/8/2007 8:13 PM

bass15 - 1/8/2007 6:51 PM Does anyone know a fisheries biologist that can look at this fish . It's the only one that I've kept ever and I only did so because of thinking that it was a hybrid and was sterile. To be honest , I've never looked very close at a smallmouths tongue. What's the record for a hybrid , That 7 -10 on the site looks just like the one I caught.

Try sending an e-mail to [email protected] (Mike Jolley) and see if he's interested. The only sure fire way to determine is via DNA analysis and of course there is a cost involved. I have no idea if Mike would be interested enough for the state to foot the bill or not. They probably would not unless there is a potential "record" involved. They'd have every CFF member requested DNA analysis if they did. emoBigsmile But he might help you out if you're willing to pay. No, I do not know what it costs.

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Mike told me that TWRA contracts DNA analysis and usually does it on several specimens as part of a larger study.  The <u>only</u> time the State will foot the bill for an individual fish is when a potential record is involved.</p>

 

[bass15]

That's what Mike told me also , I talked to him today briefly. The fish I caught only weighed 5.1 anyway. Boy it sure does look like a spot though , really more now that it's fozen. emoSorry No vertical striping at all.

 

[DTRITON]

Along the same lines as we are talking, about a month ago I was at Guntersville and caught a keeper largemouth that had the colors and spots of a black crappie.