New gun control bill

[twilson]

Saw this on another forum and thought I would put it out there.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/blairholt.asp

 

[cast4bass]

Thanks for posting it. I was wondering about some of the claims in the email. I thought most of the email claims were overstated but the bill is still a bad bill in my opinion going way to far. There are plenty of gun laws on the books already.

 

[Guest]

It is NOT about guns. It is ALL about CONTROL.

 

[Sniperchoke]

Out of my cold dead hand!

 

[Shankopotamus]

<font color="#ff0000" size="6">JOIN THE NRA! <font size="2">THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO "EFFECTIVELY" FIGHT THIS! www.nra.org. </font></font></p>

<font color="#ff0000" size="2">If we lose our 2nd amendment rights, we have 76 million gun owners to blame! (before anyone flames me for saying that- 80 million gun owners, 4 million NRA members)</font></p>

 

[Possum]

You guys would be amazed how many Bills are introduced to congress everyday. Most Bills like this one has no chance.

 

[timbo]

Possum - 9/29/2009 12:36 P
Most Bills like this one has no chance.

The operative word there is "most" All it takes is one.

 

[Shankopotamus]

Possum - 9/29/2009 12:36 PM You guys would be amazed how many Bills are introduced to congress everyday. Most Bills like this one has no chance.

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Possum,</p>

Not to beat up on you, but it's this attitude that will eventually cost us our 2nd Amendment rights. I have implored a friend, and recent gun owner, to join the NRA. His response: "They're not going to take our guns away from us". Sadly, by the time he realizes it's happening, it will be too late!</p>

 

[Guest]

Shankopotamus - 9/29/2009 6:54 PM

Possum - 9/29/2009 12:36 PM You guys would be amazed how many Bills are introduced to congress everyday. Most Bills like this one has no chance.

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Possum,</p>

Not to beat up on you, but it's this attitude that will eventually cost us our 2nd Amendment rights. I have implored a friend, and recent gun owner, to join the NRA. His response: "They're not going to take our guns away from us". Sadly, by the time he realizes it's happening, it will be too late!</p>

Shank you should have your friend look at a few states that have all but taken away the second ammendment. Namely Illinois,Wisconsin,California,Hawaii,New York,New Jersey and Massachusettes. The poor slobs in these states have allowed their elected officials to severely limit gum ownership. Many guns are totally banned. All in the name of safety and they are not nearly as safe as states that have the freedom to own most any gun. It is coming on a federal level sooner or later. Right now the liberals are scared because of what happened when Clinton was in office. Believe it when I say that there are people working full time to find a way to take our guns.

 

[Possum]

What happened when Clinton was in office concerning guns? I know I can get a pistol now in 30 min. compared to 2 weeks. Gun manufactures loved Clinton, just like the ammo guys love Obama. You could not give an assalt weapon away before Clinton. After the Brady bill 40 dollar SKS's were going for 200 a pop. In the beginning NRA had a narrow purpose, definding the 2nd Amendment. I think they have lost focus and promote too much propaganda. Remember most Dems are gun owners and suport the 2nd amendment. In my opinion it has just become a fundraiser and political machine for the Republican Party.

 

[Guest]

Possum - 9/29/2009 7:31 PM

What happened when Clinton was in office concerning guns? I know I can get a pistol now in 30 min. compared to 2 weeks. Gun manufactures loved Clinton, just like the ammo guys love Obama. You could not give an assalt weapon away before Clinton. After the Brady bill 40 dollar SKS's were going for 200 a pop. In the beginning NRA had a narrow purpose, definding the 2nd Amendment. I think they have lost focus and promote too much propaganda. Remember most Dems are gun owners and suport the 2nd amendment. In my opinion it has just become a fundraiser and political machine for the Republican Party.

Ok I will give a quick history lesson here. When Bill Clinto took office he and the democrats had control of both houses of congress and the oval office. They passed the assault weapons ban and becase of the law they lost control of both houses in the mid term election.

If not for the NRA we would no longer have the right to keep and bear arms in the United States.

The only support of the second ammendment from the democrats is for hunting weapons. Handguns and semiautos are on their ban lists.

Nowhere in the CONUS does it say that guns are for hunting purposes only. Quite the contrary.

 

[Guest]

Olbummer and his cronies are back dooring gun control.

If some of these links do not make you sick then you are part of the problem.

http://wearechangecoloradosprings.org/blog/?p=594

 

[Possum]

cheez - 9/29/2009 7:21 PM

Possum - 9/29/2009 7:31 PM

What happened when Clinton was in office concerning guns? I know I can get a pistol now in 30 min. compared to 2 weeks. Gun manufactures loved Clinton, just like the ammo guys love Obama. You could not give an assalt weapon away before Clinton. After the Brady bill 40 dollar SKS's were going for 200 a pop. In the beginning NRA had a narrow purpose, definding the 2nd Amendment. I think they have lost focus and promote too much propaganda. Remember most Dems are gun owners and suport the 2nd amendment. In my opinion it has just become a fundraiser and political machine for the Republican Party.

Ok I will give a quick history lesson here. When Bill Clinto took office he and the democrats had control of both houses of congress and the oval office. They passed the assault weapons ban and becase of the law they lost control of both houses in the mid term election.

If not for the NRA we would no longer have the right to keep and bear arms in the United States.

The only support of the second ammendment from the democrats is for hunting weapons. Handguns and semiautos are on their ban lists.


The NRA has brought awareness to the Gun control issue. They are not the reason the 2nd amendment is. If I am not mistaken wasn't Brady one of the guys that was shot during the attempted Reagan assasination. The Brady bill is not why Republicans took control of congress. Republicans took control of congess because Bill was being an idiot when one of his first priorities was gays in the military. Secondly, his idescretions, and global warming. This lead to the contract with America, where the Republicans tried to force their will over the President, when they could not reach a budget agrement in 95 and government agencies shut down. America looked at Republicans as a group that would compromise America over their own agendas. If not for contract with America Bill would have been defeated in 96.

Nowhere in the CONUS does it say that guns are for hunting purposes only. Quite the contrary.

 

[Guest]

Possum - 9/29/2009 8:44 PM
The NRA has brought awareness to the Gun control issue. They are not the reason the 2nd amendment is. If I am not mistaken wasn't Brady one of the guys that was shot during the attempted Reagan assasination. The Brady bill is not why Republicans took control of congress. Republicans took control of congess because Bill was being an idiot when one of his first priorities was gays in the military. Secondly, his idescretions, and global warming. This lead to the contract with America, where the Republicans tried to force their will over the President, when they could not reach a budget agrement in 95 and government agencies shut down. America looked at Republicans as a group that would compromise America over their own agendas. If not for contract with America Bill would have been defeated in 96.

It was not the Brady Law only but a combination of the Brady Law and the assault weapons ban that got the dems fired during the midterm of Clinton. They were not the only reasons but they were absolutely the defining factor. That is why the present regime is staying away from open attempts at gun control.

I never said that the NRA was responsible for the second ammendment. I said that they are the reason that the liberals have not taken the right away from us.

 

[Possum]

cheez - 9/29/2009 8:04 PM

Possum - 9/29/2009 8:44 PM
The NRA has brought awareness to the Gun control issue. They are not the reason the 2nd amendment is. If I am not mistaken wasn't Brady one of the guys that was shot during the attempted Reagan assasination. The Brady bill is not why Republicans took control of congress. Republicans took control of congess because Bill was being an idiot when one of his first priorities was gays in the military. Secondly, his idescretions, and global warming. This lead to the contract with America, where the Republicans tried to force their will over the President, when they could not reach a budget agrement in 95 and government agencies shut down. America looked at Republicans as a group that would compromise America over their own agendas. If not for contract with America Bill would have been defeated in 96.

It was not the Brady Law only but a combination of the Brady Law and the assault weapons ban that got the dems fired during the midterm of Clinton. They were not the only reasons but they were absolutely the defining factor. That is why the present regime is staying away from open attempts at gun control.

I never said that the NRA was responsible for the second ammendment. I said that they are the reason that the liberals have not taken the right away from us.

Should not have used the word they, I know you did not mean the Nra was responsible for 2nd amendment. We will have to agree to disagree on the reason Dems lost control. If I remember correctly, was it not the carrer polititian thing most Rep ran on. I like Zach, but his big thing was carrer polititians. He has done a good job, but it is what it is. Now this international gun registering idea, I don't like at all. They can pass it, supreme court will strike it down. To me that is were the NRA is most effective is in the court system.

 

[Flipping WURMS]

Is there any truth to the statement that under the healthcare reform bill they r trying to pass that there is something along the ines of ammunition that expires.BUY now we have been.

 

[Guest]

Possum - 9/29/2009 9:28 PM

cheez - 9/29/2009 8:04 PM

Possum - 9/29/2009 8:44 PM
The NRA has brought awareness to the Gun control issue. They are not the reason the 2nd amendment is. If I am not mistaken wasn't Brady one of the guys that was shot during the attempted Reagan assasination. The Brady bill is not why Republicans took control of congress. Republicans took control of congess because Bill was being an idiot when one of his first priorities was gays in the military. Secondly, his idescretions, and global warming. This lead to the contract with America, where the Republicans tried to force their will over the President, when they could not reach a budget agrement in 95 and government agencies shut down. America looked at Republicans as a group that would compromise America over their own agendas. If not for contract with America Bill would have been defeated in 96.

It was not the Brady Law only but a combination of the Brady Law and the assault weapons ban that got the dems fired during the midterm of Clinton. They were not the only reasons but they were absolutely the defining factor. That is why the present regime is staying away from open attempts at gun control.

I never said that the NRA was responsible for the second ammendment. I said that they are the reason that the liberals have not taken the right away from us.

Should not have used the word they, I know you did not mean the Nra was responsible for 2nd amendment. We will have to agree to disagree on the reason Dems lost control. If I remember correctly, was it not the carrer polititian thing most Rep ran on. I like Zach, but his big thing was carrer polititians. He has done a good job, but it is what it is. Now this international gun registering idea, I don't like at all. They can pass it, supreme court will strike it down. To me that is were the NRA is most effective is in the court system.

Right now the supreme court will strike down the international gun registry. One more liberal judge and the second ammendment is toast. It is likely that olbummer will make that happen too.