Thutch, I have seen pics of monster browns from the Elk as well! The problems they are having with that river stem from low nutrient and oxygen levels. These problems are caused by the problems they are having with the old dam. They put a "sluce" gate below the dam at center hill, it has increased minimum flows and I am seeing alot more forage ( shad and insects) than we were several years ago. Hopefully they will do something similar at Tims Ford, becasue the Elk is a neat fishery!