Unions get 40% of Obamacare Waivers?

[Sniperchoke]

Question? Why do the Unions who fought so hard to pass Obamacare now get all the waivers from it. Unions represent 7% of the labor force but receive 40% of the Obamacare waivers. I guess we know who's buttering who's bread. This is an outrage we all have to incur the costs of this BS but Obama's Cronies get waivers from complying with the law. What a bunch of hypocrites.

 

[SNUFFY]

what is it with you Choke ??? why do you hate the unions so much ???? Did you try to join and get turned down by one of them some time in the past?? I thought you were some kind of big business owner or something. I don`t know about any waiver.....I still pay over 4.00$ an hour for my healthcare coverage....will not change except maybe to go up !!!! I don`t think that will ever be called a Cadillac Plan ! Every Bldg Trades Local pays for their own health insurance as part of their wage package.
You really ought to find somethin` legitimate to bitch about.

 

[Sniperchoke]

Thats the point the unions don't have to comply with Obamacare like the rest of us. Why?

 

[SNUFFY]

what are you talking about ....we pay our own way........how do you have to pay extra????

 

[Sniperchoke]

SNUFFY - 2/2/2011 8:18 PM

what are you talking about ....we pay our own way........how do you have to pay extra????

At my company we pay our own way too. But the unions are opting out of having to comply with Obamacare. That includes a federal mandate that forces employers to offer healthcare and that includes a penalty (extra tax) if they do not. So obviously some Unions don't offer all their employees healthcare and they don't want to pay the penalty (extra tax) if they do not. So by the gov't mandating healthcare the owners would be out more money so they are being given the choice by the Obama administration of opting out of the mandate. You asked me why I hate unions. How much time you got buddy? We can look to a ghost town formally known as Detroit for our first example of what unions can do to an industry and a community. They single handedly ruined the American Auto Industry with their demands. They drive up prices for consumers. They limit competition by regulating out any other private competitors which increases consumer prices. They force employers oversees to seek a cheaper workforce that cost Americans jobs. They ruined our education system by driving out accountability in the classroom. They berate and intemidate voters at the ballot box. They steel millions of our tax dollars to promote social justice. They bribe and coerce our politicians and breed corruption through out our government and our country. They are one of the leading proponents of social justice and Marxism in the country. I hope this wil suffice.

 

[SNUFFY]

#1 unions don`t employ anybody but a couple of paid officers.....companies employ union workers and paid officers are covered under our plan. Not a dime from the government goes into our funds.#2 the mess in Detroit in general was not caused by legally negotiated contracts...both sides try to gain an edge that usually works out in a compromise. It was caused by the stupidity of management that couldn`t see far enough ahead and didn`t change. # 3 unions don`t regulate ...the government does. #4 Greed moved the companies overseas Our education system is the fault of the 2 -Bit politicians we vote into power that control the standards and regulations.#5 we don`t steal anything. We get not a dime from the government.
You really should try to expand you horizons beyond Hannity, Drudge and Limbaugh and their tired old cliches and limmericks.
You`ll probably just bail on paying your employees healthcare anyway and make them buy it thru the govenment so what are you worried about. think of all the money you`ll save ....oh I `m sure you`ve already thought of that.

 

[spnplgr]

The list of entities who have received waivers from Obamacare is up to 733. All of them have one thing in common. They were heavy contributors to Obama's campaign. IT IS PAYBACK TIME!!! How many of you guys like this arangment? Since when is this the American way? I don't understand how anyone, union or not, can support and feel good about, the waivers.

Call your elected representatives and complain loudly about this crap.

 

[Sniperchoke]

SNUFFY - 2/2/2011 10:00 PM

#1 unions don`t employ anybody but a couple of paid officers.....companies employ union workers and paid officers are covered under our plan. Not a dime from the government goes into our funds.#2 the mess in Detroit in general was not caused by legally negotiated contracts...both sides try to gain an edge that usually works out in a compromise. It was caused by the stupidity of management that couldn`t see far enough ahead and didn`t change. # 3 unions don`t regulate ...the government does. #4 Greed moved the companies overseas Our education system is the fault of the 2 -Bit politicians we vote into power that control the standards and regulations.#5 we don`t steal anything. We get not a dime from the government.
You really should try to expand you horizons beyond Hannity, Drudge and Limbaugh and their tired old cliches and limmericks.
You`ll probably just bail on paying your employees healthcare anyway and make them buy it thru the govenment so what are you worried about. think of all the money you`ll save ....oh I `m sure you`ve already thought of that.

Your right about 1 thing Unions don't regulate. But when they finance someones political campaign and then recieve favors that regulates their competition out of the market what should we call it? The Unions especially the SEIU Employee thousands of get out the vote workers who are paid to sign people up to vote. I'll give you one guess of who they target and party that they favor. You say greed moved companies oversees companies.. Companies don't exist for charity they exist to make a profit if they can't make a profit locally they will look to a more business friendly environment that is just the way the world works.