So how much do I owe you for the lesson? I can verify that the small finesse hooks work very well, and that you should not set the hook hard. I used to fish this rig with a regular #3 worm hook, but then Wiskers showed me a new way. I thought, there is no way this little hook will get them every time, but I was wrong. Just about every fish was hooked in the top of the mouth, and hooked very well as long as I did not yank the crap out of it. When I did set the hook too hard, it would cut a large hole as stated. Great info!