I wanna be a GVT worker so fricken bad...

[SpurHunter]

Good Loooong article. I pasted a very short bit of it below. Its so stagering, it makes me sick to my stomach. How can police, and teachers make less than some of these positions??</p>

http://redtape.msnbc.com/2010/09/in-bell-calif-residents-of-the-relatively-poor-mostly-hispanic-city-staged-a-near-riot-after-discovering-that-their-city.html</p>

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Government workers do generally have it better than private-sector workers at the moment. Studies disagree about the size of the advantage – some claim government workers earn 50 percent more than their private-sector counterparts when benefits like pensions and health-care coverage are included. And even conservative estimates show government workers on the lower end of the wage scale earn 5 percent to 10 percent more than similarly qualified private-sector workers.</p>

But perhaps most important, while the economy has shed some 8.4 million private-sector jobs during the recession, <font color="#ff0000">public sector jobs have increased by 2 percent in the past three years</font>, according to the Manhattan Institute for Policy Research, in part thanks to the Obama administration’s stimulus plan. Clearly the burden of economic anxiety during the recession has not been evenly spread.</p>

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[Bprice]

If you want to be one so frickin bad why don't you apply for the positions.

Being a federal employee isn't all donuts, coffee and naps like most believe

 

[Guest]

Problem with being a government worker nowadays is that sooner rather than later there will be no money to get paid. Olbummer and company are increasing G jobs while private sector jobs are decreasing. Makes his numbers look good. China will call in the loans and the G workers will be SOL.

 

[Bprice]

Cheez,

So China would ruin their #1 exporter's economy, throwing their own economy into economic strife?

I hear where you are coming from though. I am prepared if something as what you speak of happens. Always gotta plan!

 

[Guest]

Bprice - 9/24/2010 11:15 PM

Cheez,

So China would ruin their #1 exporter's economy, throwing their own economy into economic strife?

I hear where you are coming from though. I am prepared if something as what you speak of happens. Always gotta plan!

I'm not saying that China would ruin us per se. I am saying that sooner or later somebody must pay the piper. The solution is going to have to start at home. We the people have absolutely GOT to stop relying on the government for EVERYTHING. We have to cut up our credit cards and stop trying to keep up with the Joneses. Until we clean up our own individual problems we will continue to elect lying politicians who promise the moon and finance the moon from borrowed money.

 

[SNUFFY]

Now ,this is really funny !!
The Bile/Venom Brothers finally step on the toes of one of their own ....touched a little bit of a nerve.....
Then he thows you a bone.....to get out of it.....
Ya`ll look like worms dropped on hot pavement.....

 

[AThornton]

SNUFFY - 9/25/2010 8:28 AM

Now ,this is really funny !!
The Bile/Venom Brothers finally step on the toes of one of their own ....touched a little bit of a nerve.....
Then he thows you a bone.....to get out of it.....
Ya`ll look like worms dropped on hot pavement.....

A lot of truth in this thread if you open your mind and actually read it

 

[outcaster]

It's the JOB of the Federal Gov't to help stimulate the economy until the private sector can get it's act back together, and offer products and services that Americans can and will buy. Greed and only Greed drove us into this ditch we are now in. Credit card spending and keeping up with the Jones's are directly tied to GREED, and private sector capitalism, not the Gubment. A concept that conservatives can't seem to grasp.

 

[SpurHunter]

No, it's not the job of the Gvt to stimulate. Please tell me where you get that information please?

 

[SpurHunter]

SNUFFY - 9/25/2010 8:28 AM Now ,this is really funny !! The Bile/Venom Brothers finally step on the toes of one of their own ....touched a little bit of a nerve..... Then he thows you a bone.....to get out of it..... Ya`ll look like worms dropped on hot pavement.....

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Unlike most LIBERALS, Brandon is smart enough to know I am not referring to ALL GVT employees as you obviously take it, but he took the opportunity to make a point to all reading this thread. and FYI, if I had struck some nerve, I am sure he would have just called me to clarify, again, reference my first sentence. </p>

 

[outcaster]

SpurHunter - 9/25/2010 2:42 PM

No, it's not the job of the Gvt to stimulate. Please tell me where you get that information please?

The Constitution of the United States

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Out Gov't is in place to do, or help do, things the the Private Sector either CAN'T or WON'T do. That concept has worked pretty well for more than 200 years now. When our free market capitalistic system collapses like it did in 2008, the Gov't is the only system left to stimulate any kind of economic growth. Your beloved Capitalism ground itself to a complete halt because the "fox was guarding the chicken house"(and a few of those foxes were democrats). The Federal Gov't can't do everything, and the stimulus is only a band-aid, short term solution to keep as many Americans working as possible 2.7 million of them. The Federal stimulus has kept our un-employment rate from reaching 13-16%. Nothing chaps my arse more than having to bail out Wall St. companies with billionaire ceo's, when their greed has endangered the economic livelihood of the rest of us, while some bitch about WIC, food stamps and Welfare.

 

[Guest]

SpurHunter - 9/25/2010 2:46 PM

SNUFFY - 9/25/2010 8:28 AM Now ,this is really funny !! The Bile/Venom Brothers finally step on the toes of one of their own ....touched a little bit of a nerve..... Then he thows you a bone.....to get out of it..... Ya`ll look like worms dropped on hot pavement.....

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Unlike most LIBERALS, Brandon is smart enough to know I am not referring to ALL GVT employees as you obviously take it, but he took the opportunity to make a point to all reading this thread.  and FYI, if I had struck some nerve, I am sure he would have just called me to clarify, again, reference my first sentence. </p>

Like any true commie lib Spur, his messiah is a failure and he grasps for any comfort he can get. How sad, but comical at the same time. emoBigsmile

 

[SNUFFY]

you worms are still wigglin` !!!!and name callin` as usual ...why don`t you try something different.....your crap `s been stale for a long while now

 

[Guest]

SNUFFY - 9/25/2010 11:06 PM

you worms are still wigglin` !!!!and name callin` as usual ...why don`t you try something different.....your crap `s been stale for a long while now

You boys will be a wigglin' come November 2. emoPoke emoBigsmile

 

[SNUFFY]

rah rah rah ......sis boom bah

 

[Guest]

SNUFFY - 9/25/2010 11:40 PM

rah rah rah ......sis boom bah

Git you another drink. Your IQ is increasing with every post.

 

[SNUFFY]

So now I`m a stupid drunk....
Again ...you continue to prove that you`re No.#1

 

[Bprice]

SNUFFY - 9/25/2010 8:28 AM Now ,this is really funny !! The Bile/Venom Brothers finally step on the toes of one of their own ....touched a little bit of a nerve..... Then he thows you a bone.....to get out of it..... Ya`ll look like worms dropped on hot pavement.....

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Not so sure how or why I've been lumped into the "Bile/Venom Brothers" category. I made a general statement, and Spur didn't upset me. I was just making a general statement.</p>

 

[EricM]

outcaster - 9/25/2010 7:57 PM

SpurHunter - 9/25/2010 2:42 PM

No, it's not the job of the Gvt to stimulate. Please tell me where you get that information please?

The Constitution of the United States

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Out Gov't is in place to do, or help do, things the the Private Sector either CAN'T or WON'T do

Danny, not to agree or disagree with your point of view (although I DO disagree with many of the points of views expressed in this forum by a number of members), you have quoted the PREAMBLE of the Constitution, which is nothing more than an explanation of the reasons for the CONTENT (Articles) of the Constitution. You cannot use it as the legal basis of our government actions. Our laws and government actions are measured by the Supreme Court to ensure that they are within the the scope of those Articles of the Constitution of the United States of America. "Promote the general welfare" is NOT a catchall phrase intended to make it possible - or legal - to do anything they wish. The ARTICLES are the SPECIFIC powers that we (the people) have conferred upon the federal government.