Just a thought I have fallen in love with my kayak from Walmart. Can't remember the name but it's like green sit on top. It's red version of their cheap fishing kayak. However, the red version sells for 165 online brand new. I bought this installed a seat to get my but out of the water and three rod holders and I still have less money in than the fishing version now with better amenities. Just a though, but I quite enjoy it. It won't beat a 2,000 homie kayak or anything, but it takes waves well sits still alright, tracking is poor buts it's only 10ft long and light weight. It is possible to stand up in them some, but with the seat I don't feel a need too and I have caught fish out of it already!