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finbully · Sep 9, 2009

outcaster - 9/9/2009 5:39 PM

And yes, there were a couple of those people you mentioned that stopped and looked at the "Obama: sticker and said a few whispers to each other.

Paranoia will destroy ya...

JSV · Sep 9, 2009

finbully - 9/9/2009 6:46 AM

outcaster - 9/9/2009 5:39 PM And yes, there were a couple of those people you mentioned that stopped and looked at the "Obama: sticker and said a few whispers to each other.

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Paranoia will destroy ya...

emoThumbsup I must agree!

outcaster · Sep 9, 2009

JSV - 9/9/2009 6:57 PM

finbully - 9/9/2009 6:46 AM

outcaster - 9/9/2009 5:39 PM And yes, there were a couple of those people you mentioned that stopped and looked at the "Obama: sticker and said a few whispers to each other.

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Paranoia will destroy ya...

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emoThumbsup I must agree!

Call it what you want. You should be embarrsed. But your not.... Big surprise.

Buoy-Master · Sep 9, 2009

Outcaster, ...... I'm biting my tongue right now because everything I type is going to be deleted. Take a hike man. You

I'll respect Doc1, Cheez, JSV, Finbully even Terry if he was to post in here but your post above and comments that followed ARE BS. I have a great resting place for your flag dude.

Kirk · Sep 9, 2009

Doc1, you have the right and even an obligation as a US citizen to stand up and be heard. I will always support this right with my life and hope that open debate will lead to some sort of common sense plan to get this country back on solid footing. If you strongly feel with all your heart and mind that Obama is right then that is a wonderful thing and you should support his efforts 100%. (with your time and your money.)

AThornton · Sep 9, 2009

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Buoy-Master · Sep 9, 2009

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popeyedpete - 9/9/2009 7:27 PM Doc1, you have the right and even an obligation as a US citizen to stand up and be heard. I will always support this right with my life and hope that open debate will lead to some sort of common sense plan to get this country back on solid footing. If you strongly feel with all your heart and mind that Obama is right then that is a wonderful thing and you should support his efforts 100%. (with your time and your money.)

Exactly! emoThumbsup

Jason F-18 · Sep 9, 2009

How do you put the dang popcorn icon up?

Buoy-Master · Sep 9, 2009

LOL...I need to add it and a few others.

Jason F-18 · Sep 9, 2009

Yeah ya do, and a pot stirring one!

tndoe270 · Sep 9, 2009

Outcaster, I take great offense to what you posted concerning crackerfest. How dare you even come up with that BS and bring the kids tx into you political discussion. I for one have helped JSV for several years now put on this tx for the kids and for you to say the names JSV said were involved with conversations based on a freakin sticker on your van. Get a life dude, that's the most ridiculous bunch of bull$$$$ I have ever heard and yes there were many congratulations, good job the whole nine yards to you and the kids for winning crackerfest. You need to look in the mirror bud and see what you are teaching your kids. I feel for them, really, and for you to think and tell the kids that they didn't make allstars because you have a Kerry sign in your yard, if anything you should push them to perform better and not find stupid, yes I said stupid excuses for them not to get picked......If you had such a problem with JSV, myself, or any of the others that helped organize the kids tx then you can always PM one of us and bring it to the table if it bothered you that freakin bad but to post what you did above is BS...

Buoy-Master · Sep 9, 2009

The 4 years that Crackerfest has taken place, Ive been a helping hand in 3 of them. Kathy is right...Jason is right. 

When those fish were dumped into my personal weigh basket, I said great job..to your kids and all the kids. When the weight was recorded..Great job..when money has handed out and names called for thier places...Great job..when they picked up the prizes that MANY of us spent OUR OWN MONEY on..great job. You must be out of your mind if you think we are going to stand back and let you post your BS. EVERYONE... Children and adults enjoyed that event.

JSV · Sep 9, 2009

outcaster - 9/9/2009 6:39 AM

JSV - 9/9/2009 10:53 AM

outcaster - 9/8/2009 7:00 AM I have had my my son left off baseball allstar teams and not invited to birthday parties because of a John Kerry sign in my yard. Most recently at a kids fishing event/tx sponsored by this forum, when the Obama sicker was noticed on my van, I, nor my boys were spoken too or congratulated after winning the event. My oldest boy commented on the way home that should have drove the other vehicle to the weight in. .

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I CALL BS ON THIS!!!!


I know most everyone which fished the CRACKERFEST and know them quite well! NONE OF US ALLINATED YOU CAUSE OF A STICKER ON YOUR CAR! IT IS MY BELIEF YOU AND YOUR FAMILY WAS TREATED JUST AS ALL THE OTHER PARTICIPANTS AND FORMAL WINNERS! We may not put as much emphasis on the winningsack of fish as Bass Tx.'s do and thus you felt you should have been recognized more but this is because this is a kid’s event! This event had nothing to do with the election! That day was for the kids to have fun and each walk away a winner! I am sorry you felt miss treated but it is my belief you are emphasizing the wrong thing and then blamed politics and teaching kids to use politics. You should have brought this up a long time ago if you felt mistreated! I for one had NO IDEA what political party you had attached to your name. When you signed up I didn't write down OUTCAST and Family / DEMOCRATS!Nor did I know you had an Obama sticker on your car. That still would not have made any difference that day! The day was focused on the kids and fishing not politics!I am sorry you feel that way and used (blamed)your political view on the way you thought you should have been treated however it is my belief you were treated just as all the other participants, if not better. You were called up congradulated for winning, given cash money and a picture taken. Then the kids were called back up to pick a prize as their names were called out!

Don’t use CFF and Crackerfest as a scapegoat for your political views and agenda! CRACKERFEST is focused on kids not politics! Once again……CRACKERFEST is a fun day out for the kids with no discrimination of color, religion or political views. Your way off base!! 

You have basically called out and said "JSV, BBASS, TNDOE, DOGHOUSE, CHURLY, FLUKE, RATMAN as well as others:raciest, bigots and discrimatory"!

I for one take major offense to this and I also know the ones mentioned above are not what you have tried to make us out to be!



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I never mentioned names, you did. We both know what the truth is and what went on there, despite your big red letters attempting to save face. And yes, there were a couple of those people you mentioned that stopped and looked at the "Obama: sticker and said a few whispers to each other. Even though the boys had a pretty good sack of fish, I cautioned them that even thought we had done pretty well, someone else may have done better, and we would congratulate the winners no matter the outcome. And you're right, the money was handed out, a picture was taken, and results posted. But not one of those adults, came over to those boys or me and even said "nice job". Pretty poor sportsmanship from adults at a Kids event. In the above post, I was making the point that sometimes ones political/religious views can cause some to treat other differently or not associate with them at all. It shouldn't be that way, but it is. So don't lecture me! Take a look at yourself!

I guarantee you one thing none of the names mentioned intentionally meant to mistreat you. You are looking for things which are not there! I hate you feel that wayand I hate you are teaching your kids this BS!!!!!!!! 

I probable didn't say anything to you after the money was handed out and prizes cause we had clean-up to do, fish to clean and shirts to get rid of or pay for. Sorry we didn't go out of our way but THIS WAS A KIDS EVENT, NOT A POLITICAL EVENT!! I even forgot (once again) to get a group photo. 

This event is handled the same way each year. I sure hope FLIP1 doesn't feel the same. He won either the first one or second one and I think he too leans toward the Liberal side but it sure hasn't created any problems with him or at least I hope it hasn't. I can't tell you the political views of the other past winners and they too may be on the Liberal side BUT who cares! Once again this was a kid’s event and I am sorry Daddy didn't get the recognition he thought he should but the kids sure had a smile on their face! Guess that was till daddy got in the car and started his rant!!! 

There was never one single mention of politics or stickers at weigh-ins or the cleaning party! You have a complex and who I feel sorry for is your kids! You are telling them (if they don't get special treatment) it's because of your political affiliation! You’re so wrong especially with the whole group you have insulted. 

We did this for the kids and once again to my knowledge your kidshad a big smile on their face when they received the hand shake from me and my daughter, the cash and then again when their names were drawn to pick a prize!!!! 

A person is very low to take this and use a kid’s event for political means! emoCrazy emoCrazy emoCrazy emoCrazy 

OPEN YOUR EYES!!! Just because you have different views than many of us doesn't mean we are out to get you. 

Matter of fact until today I did even know your views and to be honest didn't even remember who won CRACKERFEST. 

Not because you lean one way or another but because the kid’s day is much more than who weighs in the biggest sack of fish however it is obvious you don't get that!!!

BustinBass197 · Sep 9, 2009

timbo - 9/9/2009 10:27 AM

BustinBass197 - 9/9/2009 12:11 AM

Call me crazy, but shouldn't people vote on the promises that certain politicians "say" they will make concerning certain issues that our country faces. "Republican" and "Democrat" at different points in our nations history have meant different things depending on what era you are talking about. When the Republican party was formed their first nominee for president was a man by the last name of Lincoln. His name did not even appear on a ballot in the state of Georgia in 1860, but now the state of Georgia traditionally votes Republican. If you look closely this standard is changing once again. You could call the two parties "purple" and "pink" for all it matters and it should not matter. Those labels were intended to get votes by the people that created them. A vast majority of Americans are uneducated on the issues that face the country and so the political party makes it easier for a big majority to decide whom to vote for without doing any research on the issues that particular politicians promote. I am not publicly promoting anyone, but during and after the Great Depression Roosevelt took control of many different aspects of Americans lives and it worked, nobody can argue that or we may not be sitting here having this discussion today. Government control scares me just as much as the next person, but sometimes it is necessary. I do not know as much as I should but, in a way I support some of the bailouts. If they had not been done imagine what the unemployment rate due to the auto industry alone would have done to the economy alone. If you lose your job you have no money, you spend no money, store makes no money, store owner spends no money, etc. It is a snowball effect. Just my 2 cents. PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN! emoUSA

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I agree with you to a point. Both Parties do more to separate the country than they do to bring it together. they both seem more intent on what's good for the party than what's good for the country.

Where I disagree is, I believe President Roosevelt's policies were more of a band aid rather than a fix of the economy. What really worked towards getting the US out of the depression, was WWII. There's plenty of arguments about whether or not he intentionally got us into WWII, but that's a topic for another thread.

You are right about WWII. Technically it put the last nail in the coffin of the Great Depression. To begin with we remained neutral then we began to ship supplies to our allies which stimulated the economy. WWII helped in a big way, but the New Deal program did a great deal to help our economic situation. Hoover also tried to help the economy, but his plan was to just give everyone money just like Bush an Obama. We all know this does not work. It tends to make the GDP model look alot like it does during and after Christmas each year. This is a great discussion! Democrats and Republicans will always mean certain things, and furtheremore what each party supports will continue to change. These guys are in the business of getting elected and staying in office by keeping us happy. The question they really need to ask themselves is "who to keep happy. There are issues that Obama is not truly a left winger on and the same goes for other Republicans. My point is these people join a party for the same reasons we do because we believe our beliefs are close to theirs. These parties will continue to change the beliefs as our society changes as do the needs of the people.

BustinBass197 · Sep 9, 2009

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BustinBass197 · Sep 9, 2009

I started to red the rest of this thread since my original post, but very quickly realized it was not worth it. It is almost like picking up a brand new book and reading the first and last page. If the first and last page have absolutely nothing to do with each other it is probably not worth reading in the first place. I get it that everyone wants to be heard, but what exactly is everyone trying to say? What is best for me might not be the best for you. We have and always will be a nation of compromise. When we fail to compromise bad things occur. Without the first amendment this country would not be as successful as it is today. Nations rise and they fall. We are not one the rise any longer. We are on the top in some aspects (military), but in others we are tumbling downward. Things that really matter like the economy which some on here really seam to care about. I just thought this was funny that this thread tarted out in one direction then twisted to grown men bitching about something to do with the crackerfest, but once again it is actually very great that we can do this because some countries would not be permitted to have this discussion. I just want to make sure that we concentrate on the things that really matter in this country and this forum.

AThornton · Sep 9, 2009

God Ben, you sound like a dang teacher! emoPoke

BustinBass197 · Sep 9, 2009

XLDVee - 9/9/2009 8:57 PM

God Ben, you sound like a dang teacher! emoPoke

I prefer "life coach" or "coach professional fisherman."

AThornton · Sep 9, 2009

BAHAHAHAHA emoUpsmile Is that what your buddy at the WaHo calls you?? emoPoke

Buoy-Master · Sep 9, 2009

Life coach? Maybe you could help Outcaster out a bit.

I'll take the professional fisherman class...LOL. Ever need a spokesman on netting. Im your guy!

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