Never worked in a Business?

[elwestb]

Ok, this is just another "Internet education, copy and paste, piece of garbage" and all hell will probably break loose with it but ... here goes anyway!




A recent "Investor's Business Daily"
article provided very interesting
statistics from a survey by the United
Nations International Health
Organization.


Percentage of men and women who
survived a cancer five years after diagnosis:
U.S. 65%
England 46%
Canada 42%


Percentage of patients diagnosed with
diabetes who received treatment within six months:
U.S. 93%
England 15%
Canada 43%


Percentage of seniors needing hip
replacement who received it within six months:
U.S. 90%
England 15%
Canada 43%


Percentage referred to a medical
specialist who see one within one month:
U.S. 77%
England 40%
Canada 43%


Number of MRI scanners (a prime
diagnostic tool) per million people:
U.S. 71
England 14
Canada 18


Percentage of seniors (65+), with low
income, who say they are in "excellent health":
U.S. 12%
England 2%
Canada 6%


I don't know about you, but I don't
want "Universal Healthcare" comparable
to England or Canada .

VERY INTERESTING! the percentage of
each past president's cabinet who had
worked in the private business sector
prior to their appointment to the
cabinet. You know what the private
business sector is... a real life
business, not a government job. Here
are the percentages.

T. Roosevelt........ 38%
Taft..................... 40%
Wilson ................. 52%
Harding.................49%
Coolidge.............. 48%
Hoover................. 42%
F. Roosevelt......... 50%
Truman................. 50%
Eisenhower........... 57%
Kennedy.............. 30%
Johnson................ 47%
Nixon.................... 53%
Ford..................... 42%
Carter................... 32%
Reagan................. 56%
GH Bush.............. 51%
Clinton ................. 39%
GW Bush............. 55%

And the winner of the Chicken Dinner
is..............Obama.................
8% !!!

Yep! Thats right! Only Eight
Percent!!!..the least by far of the last 19
presidents!! And these people are
trying to tell our big corporations how
to run their business? They know what's
best for GM...Chrysler... Wall
Street... and you and me?

How can the president of a major
nation and society...the one with the
most successful economic system in
world history... stand and talk about
business when he's never worked for
one?.. or about jobs when he has never
really had one??!
And neither has 92% of his senior staff
and closest advisers..! They've
spent most of their time in academia,
government and/or non-profit
jobs....or as "community organizers"
..when they should have been in an
employment line.

 

[Guest]

So?

 

[Dropshot]

You mean being a community organizer, lobbyist, activist, or professional protestor does not count as working in the private sector?

 

[outcaster]

Not sure what the list of Presidential cabinets proves or dis-proves. As for the healthcare stats (I'll assume they are accurate): They point out to me that Americans have the best hospitals, healthcare workers, and technical medical equipment in the world, and doesn't turn away anyone. The problem, is how we deliver healthcare. We have a insurance industry that has been allowed to "cherry pick" and cover only the most healthy segments of our society. The healthcare industry is exempt from antitrust laws (Major League Baseball is the only other American industry with the same anti-trust status)
Call up BCBS and ask them how much a policy would cost for a 85 year old Grandpa. When he/she on the other end of the phone stops laughing, you will be referred to the Medicare system. Our Medicare system is in trouble because it only covers the least healthy of us. Imagine how much better the Medicare system could do if the elderly users were offset by the healthier 20 and 30 year old crowd. Health care costs are now the #1 reason for bankruptcy, and most of those people have health insurance. In 1970 7% of or GDP was spend on health care, now it's almost 18%. That's twice as much as any other developed country. 40 million Americans have no health care insurance and show up in our public hospital emergency rooms and run up huge bills to be paid by the rest of us, while the insurance companies laugh all the way to the bank. hmmm on second though... we don't need no stinkin healthcare reform.

 

[SNUFFY]

he also forgot to mention that "W" run every business he fooled with into the ground if not bankrupt

 

[Superbad]

Two thumbs down on the universal health care.

 

[beetlespin]

Most of these cabinet members can't pass a background check necessary for gaining employment in the private sector.

 

[outcaster]

Superbad - 2/23/2010 6:11 AM

Two thumbs down on the universal health care.

Sounds like you may be a supporter of the "Party of No" How would you fix Healthcare? Please be specific. Giving 2 thumbs down is NOT a solution.

 

[foodsaver]

I wouldn't fix healthcare personally. Why are the 40 million people that don't have healthcare my responsibility? They can do exactly what I did. Get a job that provides them with insurance and not waive coverage. When has government involvement actually improved something? What broad sweeping improvement do you see happening that won't work its way out as a backdoor tax for all the people that were already insured?

 

[outcaster]

foodsaver - 2/23/2010 8:24 AM

I wouldn't fix healthcare personally. Why are the 40 million people that don't have healthcare my responsibility? They can do exactly what I did. Get a job that provides them with insurance and not waive coverage. When has government involvement actually improved something? What broad sweeping improvement do you see happening that won't work its way out as a backdoor tax for all the people that were already insured?

Who do you think is paying for those 40 million un-insured right now? You are. Public Hospitals cannot turn people away and must treat them. The un-insured don't get preventative care, and when they get sick, show up in the ER's running up huge bills. Seems to me those that are not wanting to pay for someone else, and like to talk about "personal responsibility" should be the first ones demanding healthcare to be fixed. It already IS a backdoor TAX, it comes out of your check, and you don't miss it.

 

[SpurHunter]

I certainly WILL agree the system is broken. I HAVE health insurance, and if my policy doesnt cover a certain doctor or test, its not covered, and I have to payout of pocket. A person without insurance goes in, gets all they need for FREE, and the government, i.e. Obama administration wants to increase that? I just dont get the connection...

 

[Sniperchoke]

The only way to decrease healthcare cost is to turn it into a cash based system... Meaning consumer pays cash for their visit or procedure. All of this other crap will never work.

 

[beetlespin]

I'd be willing to bet that 50% of all healthcare costs are for malpractice insurance and dealing with insurance company beurocracy.

 

[foodsaver]

beetlespin...
Are you implying that the conservative approach of limiting liability and streamlining the process might be one way to fix the problems with our healthcare?

 

[Dropshot]

Two words...tort reform. That is where healthcare reform needs to start. The only problem is that most of the politicians in Washington are attorney's, and they are not about to bit the hand of those who put them in office.

 

[Guest]

outcaster - 2/23/2010 8:07 AM

Superbad - 2/23/2010 6:11 AM

Two thumbs down on the universal health care.

Sounds like you may be a supporter of the "Party of No" How would you fix Healthcare? Please be specific. Giving 2 thumbs down is NOT a solution.

Well exactly what has the other party done? You folks have had all the power for well over a year and nothing has been done yet. Seems to me y'all don't have too many answers either. emoRolleyes

 

[Guest]

cheez - 2/23/2010 1:52 PM

outcaster - 2/23/2010 8:07 AM

Superbad - 2/23/2010 6:11 AM Two thumbs down on the universal health care.

Sounds like you may be a supporter of the "Party of No" How would you fix Healthcare? Please be specific. Giving 2 thumbs down is NOT a solution.

Well exactly what has the other party done? You folks have had all the power for well over a year and nothing has been done yet. Seems to me y'all don't have too many answers either. emoRolleyes

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!. Obama gave everyone not making $250,000.00 a tax cut.</p>

2. Obama bailed out the big banks, they are paying the money back.</p>

3. Obama bailed out the car industry, they are still in business working a lot of people.</p>

4. Obama gave money to every state in the union, this extended unemployment benefits to millions, without it they would probably be bankrupt by now.</p>

5. Obama is getting a new nuke plant built close to us in georgia, this will put a lot of people to work, more will be started soon to ease our dependency on oil.</p>

6. Obama is getting a jobs bill started to put people back to work.</p>

How's that for starters? What have we got from the republicans? I might have to do a lot of digging to come up with anything, everybody help me out and post this list for all to see.</p>

 

[beetlespin]

I think Bush had already started the bank bailout before Obama got in. Obama did finish the car buyout though and we will probably never see that money again.

 

[M GO BLUE]

Doc1 - 2/23/2010 3:20 PM

3. Obama bailed out the car industry, they are still in business working a lot of people.</p>

...I'm STILL waiting on my stock certificates to show up in the mail anyday now emoScratch

 

[Guest]

Doc1 - 2/23/2010 4:20 PM

cheez - 2/23/2010 1:52 PM

outcaster - 2/23/2010 8:07 AM

Superbad - 2/23/2010 6:11 AM Two thumbs down on the universal health care.

Sounds like you may be a supporter of the "Party of No" How would you fix Healthcare? Please be specific. Giving 2 thumbs down is NOT a solution.

Well exactly what has the other party done? You folks have had all the power for well over a year and nothing has been done yet. Seems to me y'all don't have too many answers either. emoRolleyes

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!.  Obama gave everyone not making $250,000.00 a tax cut.</p>

2. Obama bailed out the big banks, they are paying the money back.</p>

3. Obama bailed out the car industry, they are still in business working a lot of people.</p>

4. Obama gave money to every state in the union, this extended unemployment benefits to millions, without it they would probably be bankrupt by now.</p>

5. Obama is getting a new nuke plant built close to us in georgia, this will put a lot of people to work, more will be started soon to ease our dependency on oil.</p>

6. Obama is getting a jobs bill started to put people back to work.</p>

How's that for starters? What have we got from the republicans? I might have to do a lot of digging to come up with anything, everybody help me out and post this list for all to see.</p>

I see you have been watching CNN again.

1. olbummer didn't cut my taxes and I make quite a bit less than $250 K
2. Bush bailed out the big banks and olbummer just rode the wave
3.olbummer TOOK OVER two car companies but neither have put ANY of the hundreds of thousands back to work. Both companies are still struggling bad.
4.olbummer is bankrupting the rest of the country to keep a few states from bankrupting. Look again! The same states are still in trouble. Some are worse than before olbummer's (China) money.
5. One nuke in South GA. that will take 20 years to build. Now that right there is some real progress to get us out of our mess.
6. Jobs bill is only gotten lip service so far.

Not too much for starters if you ask me. It has taken 14 months for this next to nothing to happen. emoScratch