non res fish license

[swamp]

Why do non-resident tenn anglers have to buy an ALL FISH license. Why can`t they buy a fishing license ,then later buy a trout license or stamp? The $81.00 fee is not bad for a year of fishing on all of Tenn. great lakes and rivers. But I know some people that have a hard time coming up with that much cash at one time. one in perticular buys lic for himself his wife and their 16 year old son. I think it should be split. buy fishing lic now buy trout lic next week Sorry for the rant just thinking out load or is it online? emoQuestion emoQuestion emoGoofy emoGoofy

 

[Fishin' Junkie]

Sorry, but I think you may have gotten some bad information. You can purchase a non-resident fishing license without trout for $41.

http://www.tennessee.gov/twra/fishlicense.html

 

[Fly Rod Rob]

Swamp:

I can sympathize with your "sticker shock" of fishing in Tennessee. I am not a TWRA representative, so I can't speak for them directly- but I will try to convince you that "all is good." emoSmile

Every year I fork over the $28.00 for an annual TN Hunting & Fishing Combination License (plus the $18.00 trout stamp totaling $46.00). I personally have an issue with this.

I don't hunt. I am not anti-hunting, it is just that I am an angler. I think hunting is great as I get deer meat from friends (which is really cool) and hides for tying fishing flies from my duck hunting buddies. I have a constant supply of materials thanks to hunters taking pheasant, duck, deer, rabbit, muskrat and other game. I have a problem paying for part of a license I don't use. I don't hunt, so shouldn't the license fee be $14.00 for me since I don't hunt? Well, the money I spend for the license (hunting portion) goes to improve habitat and helps species that are taken by hunters, which helps me in the long run. More game = more flies. Clean land = clean water. emoThumbsup Good for me and good for all!! After I came to that conclusion, I don't mind "donating" $14.00 every year to land improvement and funding for TWRA. It helps out my resident state, so all is good!! emoSmile

I think that the fishing is very good in Tennessee, and that the Annual All Fish is a pretty good deal. I know that is a major chuck of change all at once, and even more expensive if you have family, but if you figure it to per day, that is only $0.23 (rounded) a day per angler for a year license. I wish TN has a calendar year license (see below) but that is an entirely different argument.

I end up paying a lot too for out of state licenses. I hold a GA non-resident with trout stamp ($40.75), North Carolina ($40.00) with trout stamp + $100.00 non-resident fishing guide license totaling $141.00 and I keep a license from Texas totaling ($65.00) all water (salt and fresh) annual license. It does add up quickly! Fortunately, other states have calendar year licenses, so they are good from day of purchase to one calendar year later, so I can spread out the fees over the entire year. TN however, all licenses expire on the last day of February, so that is a given that I will have to purchase that license then.

I can fully appreciate your frustrations with the cost, but it all goes toward a good cause. Fishing in TN is really good due to the efforts of TWRA and their stocking programs and their biological efforts. We have quality waters here because they are managed and enforced. This comes at a price. I know it can be steep (believe me I know, I teach for a living and I don't make squat), especially for multiple family members.

Just try to remember that you are spending this money to have fun and fish with your family. That is worth any price...

-Rob

 

[Steve_O]

Very well said fly rod........

 

[swamp]

After reading my question I realized That I didn`t make myself clear.Sorry about that fellows. The fees are not the issue . i`ve been buying tenn hunting and fishing lic for many years,also GA,NC,FLA.I know that you can buy a non-res fishing lic,but if you are going to fish for trout, (more than once)you have to buy the all fish lic For $81.00 I personally don`t care. I have some friends that would like to buy a non-res lic in march for $41.00 and then be able to buy a trout lic for $40.00 a couple of weeks later instead of having to pay it all at once. i agree that it`s a bargin and support game and fish commission.We would be in sad shape without them.I`ll do like my Dad and buy them every year untill I die,even when I get so old I can`t get out and fish

 

[swamp]

I don`t know what happened but my last post is way down at the bottom of the page

 

[Fly Rod Rob]

Swamp:

I was wondering about all the spaces and your post ending up at the bottom. Are you sure your aren't a catfisher? emoLaugh

(no offense to any bottom fishers intended). emoWorthy

I think I see your issue. The RESIDENT trout stamp (for type 001 [annual resident hunting & fishing combination] and one day RESIDENT fishing [type 21] and RESIDENT county of residence fishing [type 20] are all $18.00.

A non-resident license is $41.00 + a (Type 22 RESIDENT) trout stamp is $18.00. The issue lies in that the $18.00 Type 22 is a RESIDENT trout stamp. For out of state the best bet is the Annual All Fish.

IF you add a non-resident license (Type 76) at $41.00 + an annual RESIDENT trout stamp (Type 22) at $18.00 it totals to $59.00, however your are figuring for the RESIDENT trout stamp emoTskTsk not the out-of-state fee.

I can't explain or justify why an out of state resident ($81.00) must pay more for trout fishing. The only thing I can think of to justify this is that TWRA has stocked many areas around the state and offered trout fishing to people that would not normally get to fish for trout. Your license fee is doing good for everyone and try to take comfort in that.

Maybe one of the TWRA officers can offer more information or someone with more knowledge can offer advice in the area. I am just a professor who professes to know nothing....

Tight Lines...

-Rob

 

[swamp]

HAHAHALOLLOL Thats funny Rob. It is a deep subject! About the license,I`m not complaining about the cost.It`s just pennies a day.I was wondering why a person can`t buy a fishing lic and then decide later he or she wants to do some trout fishing and then buy a trout lic or a trout stamp?One thats good for the rest of the year,not a temporary permit.

 

[Shankopotamus]

I bought a non-res license last weekend at Sportsman's. Girl said I could buy trout at a later time. Luckily I was up at Hamilton's that evening and the lady said I couldn't get trout later because I was non res- had to drive back to Sportsman's that evening to get 1st one voided and buy the All Species.
Personally, I think the $81 fee is outrageous, the good it does notwithstanding. No other state I'm aware of comes close to that fee. I'll just be glad when I'm back living in Tenn. in a couple of years!

 

[swamp]

Thats what I`m talking about Voliam.Lots of people have bought a lic, not thinking about trout,and later on in the year decided to try trout fishing,and found out they couldn`t buy an annual trout lic. they were stuck with an expensive short time permit

 

[Shankopotamus]

Like any thing in the business world, Swamp, you have to be lucky to talk to someone "in the know". The girl at Sportsmans was "sure" a nonres could buy trout later. She even disputed me when I came back to void the first license, but I told her I talked to TWRA (actually the lady at Hamilton's talked to them). It wasn't a big deal voiding/ reissuing the license, except I had to drive all the back to the store. They'll supposedly only void/ replace a license on the day you buy it.
I think it's ridiculous that a resident can buy trout later but nonres can't. What's that all about? For $81 we shouldn't be treated like the proverbial "red-headed-step-child"! LOL

 

[sdfd29]

I have a question for the non-residents -- When I buy a non-resident in Alabama the fee is set by what Tennessee charges a non-resident. Is this the same in Georgia???? If so, Does a non-resident have to buy the trout stamp at the same time??

The way the fee increase was described to me a few years ago in Alabama was that the states had a agreement on the prices and when one increased the other one did as well for the non-residents.

 

[fisherpal2k]

<font size="3"> In GA you can buy the fishing license seperate from the trout stamp. I bought my GA license this year so I could go home and fish with the family and it cost me less than my TN license did. TN is one of the highest priced license on the market but you also have to look at what TN has to offer.</font> <font size="3">There is a multitude of lakes with in an hour of each other and lots of fishing of any style you would want to do. </font></p>

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<font size="3">I personally go back home to GA to trout fish as there is only a couple of places here locally that is trout water. What I can't stand is having to pay for all the add ons to fish for trout. The daily tickets that you have to have on Tellico or Citico or in Gatlinburg. Those are the ones that add up.</font></p>

 

[sprestwood]

I never heard any reason solid enough to justify higher out-of-state license fees. I would say that non-discriminatory pricing would encourage more out-of-state revenue and even more of a bottom line. If GA residents want to support TWRA I say we make it as easy as possible for them.

 

[Shankopotamus]

sdfd29, to my knowledge, it is not the same, unless there's something in the regs I haven't seen. All Georgia nonres licenses for freshwater AND trout is $37. I'm not sure if you can buy trout at a later time- that's not specified in the regs. In addition, the Tenn regs don't specify a nonres has to buy trout at the same time. But if you call TWRA, they'll tell you that.
The Alabama license price may be due to Tenn and Ala having reciprocal agreements. Georgia has no reciprocal agreement with Tenn.

 

[swamp]

glad you got your lic deal straightened out Voliam.Idon`t know why it would make any difference to TWRA when a person bought a lic.My fishing buddy(I`ll admit he`s a conspiracy theorist) thinks it`s a trout unlimited plan to keep nonresidents off the trout streams.Please notice that I did not make this statement,it was my freind that said that.I think he has been using to much head cemet in a confined space.

 

[Shankopotamus]

I can see where $40/ year would keep a lot of folks off the trout. But that's what got me hooked emoBigsmile in the first place. Don't know if you can see it well, but my avatar shows a 22.5" brown I caught near Bristol last Spring. When I re-up my license, I just grit my teeth!