Obama soft on illegal immigrants

[outcaster]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/25/AR2010072501790.html

 

[Sniperchoke]

Didn't you post a quote earlier "its the economy stupid". Well "its the border stupid"..

 

[aus10sdad]

http://immigrationcounters.com/
Not real sure of the source but....If he sends 400,000 back how many are they gonna send to replace?

 

[outcaster]

The numbers just show that the Obama admin is deporting more of them the Bush was, which is just more proof of my belief that the wealthy, and big business owners really want and need illegals here. You know.... maximizing profits and pleasing stock holders, all that good American capitalism stuff. It kinda all ties together with the other post talking about how the rich were not spending as much money. Could it be that since Obama is sending more of them back home and cracking down on those that hire them....... the rich can't afford to spend like they used to, because some of them may have to hire Americans, and pay them a decent wage, as well as workers comp insurance and payroll taxes. Nah That couldn't be it.

 

[TritonAL186]

outcaster - 8/3/2010 9:06 PM

The numbers just show that the Obama admin is deporting more of them the Bush was, which is just more proof of my belief that the wealthy, and big business owners really want and need illegal's here. You know.... maximizing profits and pleasing stock holders, all that good American capitalism stuff. It kind all ties together with the other post talking about how the rich were not spending as much money. Could it be that since Obama is sending more of them back home and cracking down on those that hire them....... the rich can't afford to spend like they used to, because some of them may have to hire Americans, and pay them a decent wage, as well as workers comp insurance and payroll taxes. Nah That couldn't be it.

He is not sending anyone back, that's just BS. Just more propaganda, it's the same thing all presidents do. Are we really this stupid to believe everything we hear and see, especially coming from the media or the special groups....... emoBang . That's why this world is so screwed up, oh sorry, not the world , it's the people in it. I feel sorry for the next generation or beyond that has to deal with all this BS. Thank god I only have maybe 20-25 years left of this BS, maybe less...... emoEek

By the way , this illegal crap is nothing more than to get our attention away from everything else that's screwed up, like no jobs, oil spill, higher taxes coming, President's lower approval rating of 41%, Health care issues, financial reform, do you want me to add some more....... emoBigsmile

 

[outcaster]

It's the Republicans and the Tea baggers that are jumping up and down claiming this admin is doing nothing about illegals. The Facts are from the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency, not some numbers I pulled out of my butt. The Wash Post is not considered a "left leaning" publication.

 

[Sniperchoke]

What good does it do to send them back when the border is still not secured?

 

[Bfish]

Sniperchoke - 8/4/2010 9:48 AM

What good does it do to send them back when the border is still not secured?

Yeah better to leave them here where they can work for cheap wages, get free healthcare, and send money back home. emoLaugh

 

[Sniperchoke]

Bfish - 8/4/2010 12:08 PM

Sniperchoke - 8/4/2010 9:48 AM

What good does it do to send them back when the border is still not secured?

Yeah better to leave them here where they can work for cheap wages, get free healthcare, and send money back home. emoLaugh

So when you deport them and they come right back what have you acomplished?

 

[Bfish]

Sniperchoke - 8/4/2010 2:19 PM

Bfish - 8/4/2010 12:08 PM

Sniperchoke - 8/4/2010 9:48 AM

What good does it do to send them back when the border is still not secured?

Yeah better to leave them here where they can work for cheap wages, get free healthcare, and send money back home. emoLaugh

So when you deport them and they come right back what have you acomplished?

You have kept them from working, getting free healthcare, and sending money back home, at least temporarily. emoPoke

 

[SpurHunter]

Sniperchoke - 8/4/2010 2:19 PM

Bfish - 8/4/2010 12:08 PM

Sniperchoke - 8/4/2010 9:48 AM What good does it do to send them back when the border is still not secured?

Yeah better to leave them here where they can work for cheap wages, get free healthcare, and send money back home. emoLaugh

So when you deport them and they come right back what have you acomplished?

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You mow your grass everyweek dont ya? How about fishing a spot that never produces but one good fish a year....</p>

Its better than doing nothing, that's fopr sure. </p>

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I will give you this victory Danny, BUT, it should be twice this many going back, whoever the president is. </p>

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[Sniperchoke]

Secure the border first then deal with the illegals..

 

[Eyeman2]

The State of Sonora,Mex. is complaing that too many residents/Mexicans are coming back home and they cannot deal with the influx of residents returning to their place of birth. It's the economy amigo!
I think the reason so many are being returned back to Mexico is: Sherriff Joe Aripoa has hired 2 extra debuties.
The other reason is: so many, so much to choose from. Ennie, Minnie, Minee, Jaun. My Mother said to pick one and Juan your're it. Bingo

 

[outcaster]

I'll fix the immigration problem before the sun goes down tomorrow...... Fine any company or individual that employs an illegal 75K per incident. Freeze their assets, or take their property in lieu of fines. Do it in the name of "Homeland Security" Quite a list of offenders could be gathered from those about to be deported in exchange for possible legal status......provided they are willing to name names, and serve in the military for 4 years. You won't have to build the first stretch of fence.

 

[Sniperchoke]

outcaster - 8/4/2010 5:54 PM

I'll fix the immigration problem before the sun goes down tomorrow...... Fine any company or individual that employs an illegal 75K per incident. Freeze their assets, or take their property in lieu of fines. Do it in the name of "Homeland Security" Quite a list of offenders could be gathered from those about to be deported in exchange for possible legal status......provided they are willing to name names, and serve in the military for 4 years. You won't have to build the first stretch of fence.

Still doesn't fix would be terrorist from coming across our porous borders.

 

[outcaster]

Sure it would.... The #1 reason for being here would be gone...... A Job! The terrorists that attacked us on 911 got in legally.
I don't really believe my plan would actually be enacted. Our economy has grown too dependent on illegal labor. Are Americans really willing to pay higher prices for fruits and vegetables, poultry, construction, motel rooms, and floor coverings? I would like to see some sort of impact study on this topic (maybe it's been done already). Does the lower prices we now pay for the above listed items offset the drag illegals put on our social services and healthcare system?

 

[Sniperchoke]

outcaster - 8/4/2010 11:16 PM

Sure it would.... The #1 reason for being here would be gone...... A Job! The terrorists that attacked us on 911 got in legally.
I don't really believe my plan would actually be enacted. Our economy has grown too dependent on illegal labor. Are Americans really willing to pay higher prices for fruits and vegetables, poultry, construction, motel rooms, and floor coverings? I would like to see some sort of impact study on this topic (maybe it's been done already). Does the lower prices we now pay for the above listed items offset the drag illegals put on our social services and healthcare system?

Terrorists don't come here for jobs.

 

[Bubbakat]

Juan the illegal went and got his training to be a terrorist before he slipped across our open borders. His first job was to blow up Sheriff Joe's car. He would have to, but he burned his lips on the tail pipe.

 

[outcaster]

Sniperchoke - 8/5/2010 11:30 AM

outcaster - 8/4/2010 11:16 PM

Sure it would.... The #1 reason for being here would be gone...... A Job! The terrorists that attacked us on 911 got in legally.
I don't really believe my plan would actually be enacted. Our economy has grown too dependent on illegal labor. Are Americans really willing to pay higher prices for fruits and vegetables, poultry, construction, motel rooms, and floor coverings? I would like to see some sort of impact study on this topic (maybe it's been done already). Does the lower prices we now pay for the above listed items offset the drag illegals put on our social services and healthcare system?

Terrorists don't come here for jobs.

So are we gonna build a fence along the Canadian border too? There is basically nothing up there to keep all the terrorists out. Difference is.... Canadians have jobs. It's ALWAYS about the economy.

 

[Byte Me]

the Obama admin doesn't know how to count. they claim to have created thousands of jobs in zip codes that don't exist. do you really think they can accurately count illegals ?