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Ok..I'm by NO MEANS trying to stir a pot here but I do have a couple of thoughts and questions. So don't get all riled up. ;)

I'm curious as to why CBA, and other tournaments plus the dedicated anglers within these tournaments, preach about conservation, education, be smart and release those fish yet we have tournaments that last 10 plus hours in the heat all day. I read where it was "put to a vote" and the anglers didn't change anything. Seems that the directors would just take the stand and make the call....Or is it a fear the trail will fail? I understand even playing grounds yet lets face it, educated or not, those months are hard on fish. I've witnessed the bags and coolers that go out.

Can the directors make the call and stop the tournaments in the summer days and maybe consider a 3 fish at night instead AND cut back those 12 hour stretches? Yea...Might loose some people yet if it hasnt been tried and tested, how do we know. Not to mention if the "smart anglers" on this water are really 100 and 10 percent dedicated to conservation, education...bla bla bla...then it should'nt be an issue but instead be praised that the change happened.

I'm asking because I've never understood it. Lets face it...more bass are still released on this lake by the common Joe and Tournament anglers than we give credit too. A few taken out here and there isn't gonna kill a lake. Now those Asian Carps coming will...There's an issue we cant control!

I'm in full support of slots also. Seems like its time and I personally would like to see TWRA consider that.
 
churly - 4/4/2013 9:52 AM

The results of their current study will shock you....
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I guess I am going to have to give "Chuck" Jolley a call.

Buoy-Master - 4/4/2013 3:11 PM

Ok..I'm by NO MEANS trying to stir a pot here but I do have a couple of thoughts and questions. So don't get all riled up. ;)

I'm curious as to why CBA, and other tournaments plus the dedicated anglers within these tournaments, preach about conservation, education, be smart and release those fish yet we have tournaments that last 10 plus hours in the heat all day.....
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I like your thoughts, but for most "club" tournaments, why not go to a catch, photo, and immediate release style tournament. Issue a unique card at blastoff, to be shown in each picture with fish on clearly marked measuring board. The fishes time spent out of the water is the same as a traditional weigh-in, yet no livewell stress.
 
I dont think you can compare gunntersville that has 67,900 acres of water to chick.that has 36,240.I personally dont think the ckick.could handle the pressure that gunntersville gets yr. after yr.
 
fish4thepeck - 4/4/2013 4:16 PM

Not a cure but might insure that folks take of their fish a little better, if you weigh a fish in that don't swim off you get a zero for the day.
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Even if it swims off doesn't mean it lived, it just makes us feel better.
 
flipper - 4/4/2013 10:40 PM

I dont think you can compare gunntersville that has 67,900 acres of water to chick.that has 36,240.I personally dont think the ckick.could handle the pressure that gunntersville gets yr. after yr.
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People don't realize that G is double. Also, I always figured there was tons of water that is unfishable for us, but perfect habitat for bass. There are probably lots that die of old age.
 
Oldman - 4/4/2013 5:28 PM

i am for a law to be passed not letting fish that are full of eggs to be taken out of the lake.
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That would include not put in livewells also ,right? I'm with ya Oldman!
 
Probably a simple answer to this one, why would the cba and even the bassmasters for that matter not go to a 3 fish limit?
 
<font size="3" face="georgia,palatino">From a conservation point, summer tournaments are extremely bad on the Bass population. Anytime the water temp is above 85 degrees most livewell kept fish will expire from "DELAYED MORTALITY". They just get too stressed out and can not recover.</font></p>

<font size="3" face="Georgia">In order for a slot limit to work fish have to be removed from the system. A significate number of fish not one or two here or there. Slot limits have been tried in various local across the country. Not one has worked successfully without numbers of fish above and below the slot being removed.emoBang </font></p>
 
Carl to take your point a step further, about delayed mortality, I sometimes wonder if anyone has ever seen bait fish that have been kept in water that is much cooler than the water in the river or the lake? Has anyone ever seen what happens to those fish when they are placed into warmer water? They die. Very, very quickly. With a larger fish, the shock is much less rapid, but it is a shock. Add to that, extremely low oxygen saturation, being bumped around in a live well for hours, and being pulled out to "cull". In addition to that, imagine a bag going up to weigh in. How may photos are posed for, with fish out of the water. One of these days we'll wake up and realize what we are doing, at least I hope we will. This is an interesting article:
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http://www.azbasszone.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-8191.html</p>

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Carl Guffey - 4/4/2013 10:27 PM </p>

<font size="3" face="georgia,palatino">From a conservation point, summer tournaments are extremely bad on the Bass population. Anytime the water temp is above 85 degrees most livewell kept fish will expire from "DELAYED MORTALITY". They just get too stressed out and can not recover.</font></p>

<font size="3" face="Georgia">In order for a slot limit to work fish have to be removed from the system. A significate number of fish not one or two here or there. Slot limits have been tried in various local across the country. Not one has worked successfully without numbers of fish above and below the slot being removed.emoBang </font></p>
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Finally, it seems that people have quit arguing and turned this into something a little more constructive. I quit reading the other thread, so I really don't know how it was going before the big freeze but Churly almost sounded like Chicken Little, sounding the sky is falling alarm. It always seems there's one person warning the others of the impending doom. Funny thing, they're not always wrong and sometimes the sky is falling down. I did a little survey of family and friends, asking them if they'd mount (not sexually) a big fish. All said yes and that is a point he was trying to make , with his 1000 people and 1 fish rant???. Michael was just the poster boy and a very good one but a lot other fish are probably being taken out of the lake and put on walls. I talked to a bank fisherman at CFP as I was loading up, last fall and he proudly talked of the 7 lber he was getting stuffed. It's not just double digit fish being turned into dust collectors, I mean trophies. Trophies are something that mean a lot at the time but when it's too much effort to clean them, they get thrown in a box and hidden in a closet, at least mine are. Now, memories, they never dust over and only get better with time...yes, they do.
Right now the Chick is booming and maybe a fish here or there wouldn't hurt if things kept going like they are now but does anybody expect things to get better forever? We might need those big fish genes, if something unexpected happens, again! This may have already been posted, if so, I missed it but bassfan.com had a very moving story about this area and how a few changed a lot. http://www.bassfan.com/opinion_article.asp?ID=196 Maybe a few can make some needed changes again.


I am C&R forever. I net only in TX's. Lipping is a rush and I'm working to master it. I no longer just toss a fish back in and I've never intentionally put a fish on the rug. There are no laws or regulations saying I must do that but I believe it to be best, so I do. Can anyone honestly say, the lake is better with one less bass, in it? More is Better
 
No Carl. Go back and read my post. Has nothing to do with your reply. The main question still remains unanswered.
 

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