Somethings I just don't understand

[MrWiskers]

Being an engineer it is in my nature to understand how things work. Well today I had something happen a couple of times that I just cannot understand. Now I have had this happen in the past but it still boggles my mind.

How does a bass grab a crank bait with two sets of treble hooks and not get hooked?

I can't get the darn thing out of my tackle box without getting stuck. Now I herd many different reasons why this could happen but none of them make sense to me. I mean the hooks are sharp, exposed, and the bass hits the bait hard enough to nearly take the rod out of my hands.

 

[Liveliner]

That is good. Very good.emoTongue

 

[Fat Albert]

<font color="#ff0033">Mr. W  I think it has something to do with the way the planets and the star align.... If everything lines up correctly you hook the fish...it is all them other times that, well you know!!!!</font>

 

[Guest]

I THINK SOME TIMES YOUR CRANKBAIT OR LINE RUNS INTO A FISH, YOU MAY FEEL HIM TAKE OFF AT MOCK 2
LIKE A RATTLE TRAP IN SHALLOW WATER THIS MIGHT HAPPEN OFTEN, BUT IT ALWAYS MAKES YOU WONDER WHAT THAT WAS.

 

[Buoy-Master]

Whiskers...If I've told you once, I've told you a hundred times, Leave the Hooks on the Bait!  

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 It kills me when you hook up with one and it shakes the hook or only has 1 little hook just barley in it. </p>

FA must be right about that!</p>

 

[ChooChooSnakeMan]

Interesting question Mr. Whiskers,

I'm also an engineer and I have a theory. Ever noticed how many fish you actually get into the boat on crankbaits especially rat-l-traps that seem to be hooked on the outside of the fishes head? Well I think that a lot of times the fish sees and /or hears the bait or the baits vibrations in the water and makes a lunge at it only at the last minute to decide that it's not real or maybe it just in the poor visibility or with the speed of the bait and the bass the angle of the intersection is not correct so that the fish doesn't arrive at the tangent point of the arc of the trajectory of the bait at just the right moment in 3 dimensional space to make a good interception. In other words ---- the fish just misses the bait by just a little and if the hooks happen to be just right they get caught on the ouside of their mouth. If the orientation of the hooks don't happen to be right then we feel the strike but no hookup or a very short lived hook up. Now I'm not asking for true confessions here, but how many of us have ever missed our mouths with some food and ended up with it on our faces or in our laps????? Anyway that is my theory and helps me to rationalize something that just drives me crazy, so many hooks and yet the fish gets away!!!

Happy Fishing Everyone,

 

[Big Fish]

YEAH, what he saidemoScratch

 

[Buoy-Master]

ChooChooSnakeMan - 3/12/2007 8:24 PM ...snip... Now I'm not asking for true confessions here, but how many of us have ever missed our mouths with some food and ended up with it on our faces or in our laps????? ...snip...,

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Yea but I'm doing much better now thank you very much.

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[dec1]

I'm with Choo Choo. Its a reaction strike and the fish runs into your lure with its mouth shut.

 

[drumking]

I have seen videos of big bass completely engulfing a crankbait and then blow it back out with the angler never even knowing that he had a strike. Don't ask me how they do it, but they can.

Years ago, Uncle Homer Circle was fishing with Glen Lau who was an underwater photographer and Glen filmed big bass hitting Homer's lure but not getting hooked. Glen surfaced and asked Uncle Homer why he didn't set the hook and he said that he didn't feel a thing. Wonder how many times this actually happens to bass fishermen? Sometimes maybe just a slight chance in the vibration of a lure could possibly signal a strike from a bass. Most times I just keep cranking too and never setting the hook. (Or at least I used to when I bass fished about 100 years ago. emoUpsmile emoGeezer

 

[Andrew]

ChooChooSnakeMan - 3/11/2007 9:24 PM

Interesting question Mr. Whiskers,

I'm also an engineer and I have a theory. Ever noticed how many fish you actually get into the boat on crankbaits especially rat-l-traps that seem to be hooked on the outside of the fishes head? Well I think that a lot of times the fish sees and /or hears the bait or the baits vibrations in the water and makes a lunge at it only at the last minute to decide that it's not real or maybe it just in the poor visibility or with the speed of the bait and the bass the angle of the intersection is not correct so that the fish doesn't arrive at the tangent point of the arc of the trajectory of the bait at just the right moment in 3 dimensional space to make a good interception. In other words ---- the fish just misses the bait by just a little and if the hooks happen to be just right they get caught on the ouside of their mouth. If the orientation of the hooks don't happen to be right then we feel the strike but no hookup or a very short lived hook up. Now I'm not asking for true confessions here, but how many of us have ever missed our mouths with some food and ended up with it on our faces or in our laps????? Anyway that is my theory and helps me to rationalize something that just drives me crazy, so many hooks and yet the fish gets away!!!

Happy Fishing Everyone,

I saw a fishing show not long ago. Can't remember who it was but they were fishing with a rat l trap type lipless crankbait. I'm thinking it was shaw grigsby. And this is why i always replace the front treble hook with a red one. Studies have shown that a bass will hit the front hook of a crankbait more so than the rear hook. Shaw was catching these bass and they were taking the front hook. Once they took the front hook the rear hook would be knocked around and stick in the side of their heads. Your explanation is good also tho and this was just something i observed on that show and it helped explain why i caught bass and they would be stuck in outside of their heads with trebled cranks. I already knew bass will take the front hook more often but this was good info.

 

[Andrew]

drumking - 3/11/2007 11:10 PM

I have seen videos of big bass completely engulfing a crankbait and then blow it back out with the angler never even knowing that he had a strike. Don't ask me how they do it, but they can.

Years ago, Uncle Homer Circle was fishing with Glen Lau who was an underwater photographer and Glen filmed big bass hitting Homer's lure but not getting hooked. Glen surfaced and asked Uncle Homer why he didn't set the hook and he said that he didn't feel a thing. Wonder how many times this actually happens to bass fishermen? Sometimes maybe just a slight chance in the vibration of a lure could possibly signal a strike from a bass. Most times I just keep cranking too and never setting the hook. (Or at least I used to when I bass fished about 100 years ago. emoUpsmile emoGeezer

Your right. That is one of the best underwater footage ever. I watch it all the time and i have the link right here of Homers video or parts of it. It shows how bass will suck in a lure and spit it right back out. The one where that fat bass explodes on that topwater rat or frog was great. The duck is great. The one where the bass takes the lure off the bottom and you see him trying to crush it in his mouth likes its a crawfish by flaring his gills. So if you ever catch bass specially this time of year and they have a red throat and red top of mouth it means they have been eating crawfish and been breaking up the shells with roof of their mouths. Great learning tool in how bass will take and hit a lure this video is.

part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX9x7A_QE2I