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I really wish I knew this Possum.

I do know, as long as Democrats continue this garbage about "Obama has done everything perfect so far", it wont happen. Find me a Republican that believes ANY of the last four republican prez's have done everything right and I will buy you a beer, or milk, whatever you fancy. If people can't admit that no politician is perfect, you cant even start compromise.
 
I don't know any Democrats that think Obama has done everything perfect. I have a long list of things I would have done different. On the other hand I have not heard much from the Republicans about what he has done right. That not what I started this tread for, when it comes to politics it is not all about Obama, with all the Obama bashing you would think so. No, I was thinking more on the lines of issues, not what this one is doing or that one, but where do we stand on Health Care, Economy, Labor, Education, Taxes, Environment, Military, Foriegn policy, Line Item veto, Abortion, Gun control, Church and state, and so on. If people really want change a third party cannot emerge until they get inline with mainstream America on more than one issue. Thats what I was thinking when I started this thread.
 
One area that I think we can all somewhat agree on is education. It sickens me that it seems to be so far down the list of priorities for our government. I know our public education system is better than most other countries, but in my opinion, education reform should be happening way before healthcare. We barely pay our teachers enough for them to make a decent living, in many cases our school buildings are less inviting than prisons and dropout rates are sky high. Possum, you're a teacher aren't you? What are your thoughts?
 
No doubt about that! Kansas City, Mo just voted to close HALF of its schools!! WHAT!?!?! How in the blazes is this going to help the economy long-term? Deny kids a proper education because of bad politics hurting the economy right now....seems backwards to me. I would think we should be doubling our money spent on education right NOW.
 
SpurHunter - 3/11/2010 2:57 PM No doubt about that! Kansas City, Mo just voted to close HALF of its schools!! WHAT!?!?! How in the blazes is this going to help the economy long-term? Deny kids a proper education because of bad politics hurting the economy right now....seems backwards to me. I would think we should be doubling our money spent on education right NOW.
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Is throwing more money at it the answer? I am still a big fan of the voucher system, which allowed many underprivilaged children access to a private school education. I thinkso many schools are underachieving that children should have the opportunity to a good education.The president does not trust the education of his kids to a public school system.</p>
 
I dont know if the money will work, but would rather try that than bailing out compaines that abuse the billions they already have and I dont.
Carol and I were so disgusted by the school system, we pulled our kids and homeschool them. Best thing we ever did.
 
I agree on using money on education rather than bailing out some of the companies WE have paid for. I also agree that homeschooling or private schools is the healthy alternative.
 
Money won't totally fix the problem, but it would sure help. More teachers could be hired, compensated better and facilities could be improved. While the root of the problem in most cases is poor parenting, I think that all this would be a huge step in the right direction.
 
RattleTrapper - 3/11/2010 1:53 PM

One area that I think we can all somewhat agree on is education. It sickens me that it seems to be so far down the list of priorities for our government. I know our public education system is better than most other countries, but in my opinion, education reform should be happening way before healthcare. We barely pay our teachers enough for them to make a decent living, in many cases our school buildings are less inviting than prisons and dropout rates are sky high. Possum, you're a teacher aren't you? What are your thoughts?
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I guess I happen to one that thinks that pay is pretty good, here in Hamilton county anyway. I feel as if our educational system is the best in the world. Here is the thing, we educate everyone, education in America is compulsatory. Most nations only educate the elite, or those that meet certain criteria. When comparing test scores our average is compared against their cream of the crop. Kind of misleading. I believe if we waste to much money training teachers for new polititical agendas. Too many that has never been in the class room, are trying to tell teachers the best way to teach. School systems pay hundreds of thousands of dollars bringing these people in or sending teachers and administrators to them. To me that is money that could be spent in the classroom. I know my content, if you want to make me a better teacher, bring technology into my classroom and give me training on it in relation to what I teach. I was told by a Principal six years ago that the way I teach, lecture/discussion was not the way to teach anymore. Now six years later, its one of the best ways to keep your kids engaged and interested. Thing is, I am really good at keeping the kids interested with real world information that is relavent to them. Not all teachers can do that because they just don't operate that way but have their own way of teaching kids that is just as effective. We are all artist as educators, and our classroom is our canvas. One more thing, this universal all states doing same thing is a bunch of bull. Each state is unique in its own way. States should do their own thing, to me it is like obsenity laws, what might fly in California, probably will not fly in Alabama. Holding teachers accountable to what students make on a test. The kids in my inner city classroom have to perform as well as the kids in an upscale suburban school. In my field, socal studies, if any of you have been to 4 yr universities, like UTC. How did those professors teach. Common since, Im teaching high school should I not be teaching some of what they are teaching, and close to how they teach. Send me to UTC one day to an economics 101 class, or Chattanooga state. Is it just me, but don't we read in the paper all the time about how we are not preparing kids for college. I went to UTC, almost every test I took was essay. You know how many state social studies test are essay, none. My stance, we need to be more efficient on how we spend our tax dollars, and teachers time.
 
I think they can agree on the Iranian and North Korean threat. I also think they will reach an agreement on a Eastern Europe Missile Defense Shield. If not GMD or AEGIS at least THAAD and PATRIOT. Anything is better than nothing. Iran is a real threat and I think now everyone knows it.
 
Conservation! Be responsible and keep our fisheries and forests clean. Take care of the earth that God has given us to the best of our ability. I think this is something that everyone can agree on! emoUSA emoAngler
 
Bprice - 3/11/2010 3:14 PM

I think they can agree on the Iranian and North Korean threat. I also think they will reach an agreement on a Eastern Europe Missile Defense Shield. If not GMD or AEGIS at least THAAD and PATRIOT. Anything is better than nothing. Iran is a real threat and I think now everyone knows it.
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I think Iran is probably the bigger threat becuse of religion. N. Korea less so, because Gov't is greedy, cost to much to go to war. My take for what it is worth.
 
Possum, North Korea is absolutely as much of a threat if not more than Iran. Thats not my opinion its fact. Regardless, they are both rogue states and should continue to be handled as such.
 
I will agree with Brandon on this issue, because as I see it, The North Korean's actually believe they could take us on and whip us...they are that crazy, whereas, the Iranians are crazy, but not totally suicidal....they do realize if they tick us off some more, the bombs are coming and in a big way.
 
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RattleTrapper - 3/11/2010 3:28 PM Money won't totally fix the problem, but it would sure help. More teachers could be hired, compensated better and facilities could be improved. While the root of the problem in most cases is poor parenting, I think that all this would be a huge step in the right direction.
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I tend to think the poor parenting is true to some extent. We are a lazy society anymore. I think Ol Bill Cosby says a mouthful we all could listen too! Yet when Bibles and paddles were taken out of schools..that didnt help either. </p>

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Kid has ADHD, put them on meds that cause them to loose weight, look pale in the face and cause bigger mental issues down the road..yet they can focus. Ha! Not to mention, I know aTON of parents that agree the meds are gateway drugs. #1 substitute to meth is adhd pills! Look it up. My daughter ishas it but not to the extreme. we actually allow her to drink a cup of coffee every morning. She walks into school with a cup (hour before class) and is told to dump it outside. Its not allowed. Google coffee and adhd! My son is home schooled and although we have some issues with him...we do a better job than any school around here. Private or Public. </p>

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Bprice - 3/11/2010 5:23 PM Possum, North Korea is absolutely as much of a threat if not more than Iran. Thats not my opinion its fact. Regardless, they are both rogue states and should continue to be handled as such.
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emoThumbsup Wanna know about the marine industry, ask me. Wanna know about real threats..Brandon knows. I agree!</p>
 
Not a thing, 1 out of 10 times they have agreed , but with this new President, I don't think they want to agree on anything, but they better soon because people are still losing their jobs and that's not good at all for this Country or the people.
 

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