Where do you buy your outboard oil?

[Voldaddy]

I bought a bass boat over the winter with a 150 XP Evinrude. The VRO has been removed, so it's mix the oil with the gas on this one.

Where's the best place to buy oil? I have a ski boat with an I/O, and haven't had an outboard for about 10 years.

I noticed there are a lot of different oil brands and options now. My last outboard had the VRO, and I had a gallon jug refilled at a dealer that is no longer in business.

I want to buy in bulk if possible to save $$$.

TIA.

 

[stratos21xl]

you can get it just about anywhere just be sure you get a 2 cycle oil. I buy mine from the good ole boys at Fish and Fun up at the entrance of Chester Frost park. They have huge drums of it and I carry in a 5 gallon can and buy it in bulk so I dont have to stop by a store everytime I want to go out on the lake.

 

[basser#9]

stratos21xl - 3/6/2010 12:08 PM

you can get it just about anywhere just be sure you get a 2 cycle oil. I buy mine from the good ole boys at Fish and Fun up at the entrance of Chester Frost park. They have huge drums of it and I carry in a 5 gallon can and buy it in bulk so I dont have to stop by a store everytime I want to go out on the lake.

emoThumbsup what he said.

 

[SNUFFY]

I`d recommend TCW 3.....synthetic.....Amsoil, Klotz other brands. I ran a big block OMC for ten years mixing and is clean as a pin inside. The best thing about synthetic is the lack of coking around the rings that is the cause of death in bigger OMCs about 80% of the time. If you motor has quite few hours on it, I`d take it to a dealer and let them do a Decarbon treatment. Or you can buy the stuff and do it yourself..and then run synthetic. It`s more expensive but nothin` cheap about a rebuild.

 

[JDK]

use the cheap brand at wally world 8 like 10 bucks a gallon.. it is tcw 3 approved and James(wrenchin2) said thats what he uses.. he built my motor and if he recommends it it is good by me

 

[Aries 181]

I buy the Pennzoil TCW3 synthetic gallons from wally world for around $17.00 OTD.

Bill

 

[Voldaddy]

I bought a gallon of Pennzoil from Wal-Mart to start with. Thanks for all of the info/advice.

 

[TheFisherman]

The only oil I use is Pennzoil Synthetic in my 2000 model 225 ProMax- if you want to use it be sure you don't get the partial synthetic. I like how clean it burns and very little smoke. I don't have to change spark plugs very often. I get it at WalMart, but the full synthetic, if I recall correctly, is more like $24.95. My motor being a hi-perf from Mercury Racing and it's never blown up in 10 years now speaks for itself!

 

[groomer1a]

I have not bought any recently but Sam's had the Quicksilver brand for $18/gal.

 

[Voldaddy]

groomer1a - 3/7/2010 7:37 AM

I have not bought any recently but Sam's had the Quicksilver brand for $18/gal.

I was at Sam's earlier today but didn't see any oil. As a matter of fact, I saw no fishing/boating supplies other than a towable tube. They did have 4926402360846-87 golf balls though.

 

[wrechin2]

As most of you guys know, I build quite of few engine and not all of them are stock. I will stand behind my engines stock or modified for a year even when using wal-mart oil. The only engine I have ever built and not suggested using Wal-mart oil in was a Ficht that needs a much thinner oil (XD-100). I have used it for many years and had customers use it and have not had a engine blow from using it. Wal-mart does not make the oil they only sell it under their name. I have noticed over the years when Pennzoil changes it's bottle, so does the Wal-mart bottle. Coincidence????? I worked at a sidding place MANY years ago and we had several differnt brands that we manufactured for. It ALL came out of the SAME machine. This happens at many different manufactures. Same product + a different name = different price. This happens every day.

But I do have customers that live and die by certain brand oils.

I do agree that the synthetic oils do help prevent coking of the rings, but with regular decarb being performed or the regular use of sea-foam, this is not a issue as long as the oil ratio for the rpm's turned are correct. Over oiling will increase the rate that carbon does build up around the rings. A "little extra" WILL hurt over time.

BUT I will be say that when I get my 10,000+ RPM engine together, I will use a different oil as there is a HUGE difference between 6,000 RPM's and 10,000+ RPM's but as far as a fishing engine is concerned, wally world oil is just fine.

Of course these are just my opinions.... My opinion and a nickle will buy you a .05 piece of gum...... emoToast

 

[TheFisherman]

I used WalMart Oil in my 1983 model Merc 200 hpfor many years. I ran that motor for 17 years regularly at 6200 rpm without any trouble from it - used Texaco oil in it for a while when I first got it because I was told it was from the same company that made the Mercury oil, except it was tinted purple instead of blue. It was much cheaper than buying the Mercury oil. When I traded it for the 225 ProMax I now run it was still running fine. Toward the end I had started running Penzoil synthetic and have liked it so much I stayed with it. I agree with Wrechin though, I think you can get away with Walmart's oil and it probably comes from the same place, maybe even Penzoil. I have read before though, that some of the cheaper oils don't have all the additives that the more expensive oils do, of outboards, cars, or anything - all ya gotta do is leave out an additivve to reduce costs so that you can charge cheaper prices - and still meet TCW3 requirements. I also agree that the higher the RPM's your motor turns as in real high perf. applications, the more attention I'd give to being sure I used thehighest quality oils. Never been around a Ficht engine - heard too many bad things to consider one for my personal use. Like a lot of motors, take really good care and they were probably ok.

 

[river rat]

I run a 1996 90 HP Johnson with oil injection. I have been using Wal Mart oil for years and am thinking about going to synthetic . Can I just mix the 2 our do I have to take the resevoir out and clean it?

 

[jwoutdoors]

Can't beat the wally world oil, never had a problem with it

 

[AThornton]

Any marine dealer should have oil in bulk in a drum. I go to Dalton Marine and get it 2 gallons at a time from them.

 

[Tsuga]

Arrowhead Marina at Watts Bar Lake sells Yamalube in bulk. Bring your own container.

 

[fishnboy]

thanks wenchin 1 that was a good post.yeah agree walmart oil is just fine the same as the others.and yes i am one of thoes guys that do mix a little more.but not all the time.just do it in the winter cuz my boat turns a lot more rpms and it sits alot more.but in the summer i mix it what i should.
and use higher octane with no etan.you think this helps clean it out.or is bad for it?

 

[wrechin2]

Depends on how much extra oil you adding compared to the RPM's you are turning. Extra oil can increase the rate that carbon builds up around the rings. if you run seafoam (or similar) often then you can reverse the effects and be ok.

As far as fuel octane, if it is a most stock engine are designed to run on 87 octane. This is for all the manufactures I deal with. Some of the High performance engines like the Mercury XB series require 93 octane, but for the most part 87. Have seen a few 89 octane also. They have emission labels that tell you the octane fuel. Thing to remember is with 2 strokes, if you run too high of octane for your compression ratio, you will actually loose power. This is because the higher the octane burns slower and more evenly under a stock compression ratio. With higher octane fuels, the piston is past the point of top dead center (degrees) that the most pressure is applied to it when the 93 octane makes its highest pressure. Thus a power loss. If you increase the timing to make up for the lag in burn time, you are playing with fire. No pun intended..... When you have higher compression, it does better with 93 octane because it is made more volatile by the higher combustion temperatures. This will cause the lower octane fuels to ignite from temperature instead of spark, thus they will detonate and cause damage. So the 93 octane will work great in higher compression engines and makes more power then. In some cases you can actually tell a difference between octanes on a stock engine. Most engines I build, I build them to utilize 93 octane and most cases they get better fuel mileage at cruising.

Hope this helps.

 

[fishnboy]

never looked at it that way but it does make cents.

 

[wrechin2]

Tried to explain it the easiest way I could. What engine do you run???