You can’t take the Hood out of a Thug.

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dlmille - 1/19/2015 10:18 AM

If it were you, what would you have done?

If the collision was not intentional, I would have bit my lip. If I thought it was intentional there would have been words then reported to the tournament director. But I would never ever board someone’s boat. What if the person in the other boat would have had a gun? Board someone’s boat uninvited in an aggressive manner and “BANG” my kids are fatherless.
 
I'm just saying the title you gave this post made it seem like you were being raceist becuase you obviously called him a thug becuase he is black. If it would have been turned the other ways and poche got in ishs boat you wouldn't have made that the title. A thug to me is the guy who robs someone or steels something. Not the guy defending the boat he's worked hard to get. But like I said I wasn't there and neither were any of you. Every single story from witnesses is different so we don't know what actually happened all I do know Is that ish went on to fish and cashed a check then went to jail.
 
I agree with your response that it was not a smart move on Ish part to enter the boat. I would reported it to the tournament director also then the insurance company LOL, LOL. It is almost like a road rage incident. When I was Ranger at Harrison Bay, I remember man getting beat up pretty bad by a guy on a motorcycle over a similar incident at wolftever boat ramp it was not a pretty site.
 
smughal31 - 1/19/2015 10:35 AM

I'm just saying the title you gave this post made it seem like you were being raceist becuase you obviously called him a thug becuase he is black. If it would have been turned the other ways and poche got in ishs boat you wouldn't have made that the title. A thug to me is the guy who robs someone or steels something. Not the guy defending the boat he's worked hard to get. But like I said I wasn't there and neither were any of you. Every single story from witnesses is different so we don't know what actually happened all I do know Is that ish went on to fish and cashed a check then went to jail.

You don’t know me or how I would have worded anything. I believe that there are thugs of all color. So don’t be so quick to throw the race card. Thug doesn’t mean black to me.
 
So are you saying if poche would have went into ishs boat you would have made the title the same? Meaning poche would have been a thug from the hood? I'm just asking. i normally keep my nose out of this stuff it's just I know personally how good of a person ish is and I promise you he is very far from a thug and can assure you he's propbably never even seen a "hood" so don't be so quick to throw the thug card at someone who you know only what you hear from websites.
 
graybullet - 1/19/2015 10:51 AM
smughal31 - 1/19/2015 10:35 AM I'm just saying the title you gave this post made it seem like you were being raceist becuase you obviously called him a thug becuase he is black. If it would have been turned the other ways and poche got in ishs boat you wouldn't have made that the title. A thug to me is the guy who robs someone or steels something. Not the guy defending the boat he's worked hard to get. But like I said I wasn't there and neither were any of you. Every single story from witnesses is different so we don't know what actually happened all I do know Is that ish went on to fish and cashed a check then went to jail.
You don’t know me or how I would have worded anything. I believe that there are thugs of all color. So don’t be so quick to throw the race card. Thug doesn’t mean black to me.
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<font size="3" face="georgia,palatino">Although your use of the english language regarding a "thug" was on point. The placement of the "Hood" just sucked and called for a very racists thought process. You owe all members of the CFF an apology for using such a slur on the forum. It was a very poor choice of verbage.</font></p>
 
The Webster's dictionary defines a thug as a violent person. I have never heard of a polite, easy going person being called a thug. Don't act violently and you won't be called a thug.
I heard Ish's cussing fit of the tournament officials in front of families and kids over his proof of boat insurance. Then watched him race across and back the no wake zone to get his insurance card and that caused even more trouble. I heard him say that he could physically whoop other anglers over another confrontation while he was weighing in his catch on the podium. Then there was the disqualification and the fine for being late for a meeting, cussing fit. My advise to Ish would be to calm down, act like a gentleman and you won't be the negatively labeled topic of fishing forums. Bad behavior results in negative comments, every time.
 
smughal31 - 1/19/2015 12:57 PM

So are you saying if poche would have went into ishs boat you would have made the title the same? Meaning poche would have been a thug from the hood? I'm just asking. i normally keep my nose out of this stuff it's just I know personally how good of a person ish is and I promise you he is very far from a thug and can assure you he's propbably never even seen a "hood" so don't be so quick to throw the thug card at someone who you know only what you hear from websites.

Yes, I would have made the same title. But don't cry. If you think you're friends with Ish I will not hold that against you.
 
Carl Guffey - 1/19/2015 1:04 PM



graybullet - 1/19/2015 10:51 AM
smughal31 - 1/19/2015 10:35 AM I'm just saying the title you gave this post made it seem like you were being raceist becuase you obviously called him a thug becuase he is black. If it would have been turned the other ways and poche got in ishs boat you wouldn't have made that the title. A thug to me is the guy who robs someone or steels something. Not the guy defending the boat he's worked hard to get. But like I said I wasn't there and neither were any of you. Every single story from witnesses is different so we don't know what actually happened all I do know Is that ish went on to fish and cashed a check then went to jail.
You don’t know me or how I would have worded anything. I believe that there are thugs of all color. So don’t be so quick to throw the race card. Thug doesn’t mean black to me.
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<font size="3" face="georgia,palatino">Although your use of the english language regarding a "thug" was on point. The placement of the "Hood" just sucked and called for a very racists thought process. You owe all members of the CFF an apology for using such a slur on the forum. It was a very poor choice of verbage.</font></p>


So I’m responsible for someone else’s thought process???? I’m not sure how that could be. But whatever. This is like a train wreck, you just have to look. What I ‘m gathering from all of Ish’s want to be friends is that, he acted poorly and it’s not his fault???? Is that correct???? emoScratch
 
graybullet - 1/19/2015 2:44 PM
Carl Guffey - 1/19/2015 1:04 PM

graybullet - 1/19/2015 10:51 AM
smughal31 - 1/19/2015 10:35 AM I'm just saying the title you gave this post made it seem like you were being raciest because you obviously called him a thug becuase he is black. If it would have been turned the other ways and poche got in ishs boat you wouldn't have made that the title. A thug to me is the guy who robs someone or steels something. Not the guy defending the boat he's worked hard to get. But like I said I wasn't there and neither were any of you. Every single story from witnesses is different so we don't know what actually happened all I do know Is that ish went on to fish and cashed a check then went to jail.
You don’t know me or how I would have worded anything. I believe that there are thugs of all color. So don’t be so quick to throw the race card. Thug doesn’t mean black to me.
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<font size="3" face="georgia,palatino">Although your use of the english language regarding a "thug" was on point. The placement of the "Hood" just sucked and called for a very racists thought process. You owe all members of the CFF an apology for using such a slur on the forum. It was a very poor choice of verbage.</font></p>
So I’m responsible for someone else’s thought process???? I’m not sure how that could be. But whatever. This is like a train wreck, you just have to look. What I ‘m gathering from all of Ish’s want to be friends is that, he acted poorly and it’s not his fault???? Is that correct???? emoScratch
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<font size="3" face="georgia,palatino">No, just your own. Ish's problems are his. It was not being from the HOOD. It was a poor choice of judgement.</font></p>
 
graybullet - 1/19/2015 3:31 PM

smughal31 - 1/19/2015 12:57 PM

So are you saying if poche would have went into ishs boat you would have made the title the same? Meaning poche would have been a thug from the hood? I'm just asking. i normally keep my nose out of this stuff it's just I know personally how good of a person ish is and I promise you he is very far from a thug and can assure you he's propbably never even seen a "hood" so don't be so quick to throw the thug card at someone who you know only what you hear from websites.

Yes, I would have made the same title. But don't cry. If you think you're friends with Ish I will not hold that against you.
hahahaha this is crazy.
 
smughal31 - 1/19/2015 4:01 PM

graybullet - 1/19/2015 3:31 PM

smughal31 - 1/19/2015 12:57 PM

So are you saying if poche would have went into ishs boat you would have made the title the same? Meaning poche would have been a thug from the hood? I'm just asking. i normally keep my nose out of this stuff it's just I know personally how good of a person ish is and I promise you he is very far from a thug and can assure you he's propbably never even seen a "hood" so don't be so quick to throw the thug card at someone who you know only what you hear from websites.

Yes, I would have made the same title. But don't cry. If you think you're friends with Ish I will not hold that against you.
hahahaha this is crazy.

No crap. This has been fun. I'm out. See all you hardheaded folks later.
 
No graybullet, you turned it in to a racist thing by the subject of your post "you can't take the hood out of a thug". While you were looking up your definition of thug=a person engaging in wrong doing, did you happen to look up the defintion of hood?? The ghetto, the streets...???? Do you know where either of these men came from, because I don't. But the title of your post causes me to question...if the headlines read "Ike" instead of "Ish", would your comment have been the same? I really doubt it.
 
graybullet - 1/19/2015 6:01 AM

nwgod - 1/18/2015 7:58 PM

lol funny thing is this is all going to turn in to a raceist event
everybody here knows it as well as i do

It already has turned into a raceist thing, thanks to smughal31 & Jig Man. And I’m not sure what jr 37355 is getting at, nascar????

Thug= a person who knowingly engages in wrong doing. black or white
No pal, it wasn't smug or me. You brought this on all by your lonesome. It's folks like you that give the south a bad reputation. Happy Martin Luther King Jr. Day
 
Probably not the best choice of words, especially with all of the stuff going on in the news lately with racial tensions. I would definitely advise my own kids and others not to use those words in that context. Hopefully Ish and Poche can hug it out and learn to control their anger better in tense situations like this.
 
It appears that I’ve offended some of you. So, let me say that I’m offended that you’re offended.

Jig Man,
I’m not nor will I ever be your pal, I’m certain that your pals are all tree hugging liberals who wear wool socks and sandals together.

Watergirl,
It is my opinion that Ike should not be allowed to fish either, after degrading the American Flag in the 2006 Bassmaster Classic.

I’ll take Mr. Guffey’s advice and offer an apology for not being up on my street lingo. I thought “HOOD” was an area in which Thugs engage in unlawful activity, like projects or tailor parks. So, you have my most halfhearted apology.

I do have a question, if you have an answer. Since you think I’m a racist, can you tell me how many black anglers there are fishing the Bass Elite Series and the FLW tour? I may be wrong, and I’m sure you will correct me if I am. There can’t be more than five, I’ve only heard of one Ish Monroe. So, if there is one, and this is a race thing, 100% of black pro anglers have been arrested for assault why fishing a tournament. Just saying.

I’m not finished yet, check out this site. https://www.americanprogress.org/is...or-and-criminal-justice-in-the-united-states/
While people of color make up about 30 percent of the United States’ population, they account for 60 percent of those imprisoned.
According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, one in three black men can expect to go to prison in their lifetime
African American youth have higher rates of juvenile incarceration and are more likely to be sentenced to adult prison.
As the number of women incarcerated has increased by 800 percent over the last three decades, women of color have been disproportionately represented. While the number of women incarcerated is relatively low, the racial and ethnic disparities are startling. African American women are three times more likely than white women to be incarcerated, while Hispanic women are 69 percent more likely than white women to be incarcerated.

So quick call Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, a white guy was speaking of a black man and used the words “THUG” & “HOOD” in the same sentence. Funny how facts slap you in the face.
It is what it is. Once again a black male made a bad decision that put him and others in danger and it is everyone’s fault but his. Don’t Act Like a Thug from the Hood and no one will accuse you. And yes I said Hood again.
 
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