Your solution to nations problems.

[Possum]

First of all mine go back to the Bush administration and I mentioned the Tea Party Idea, about five years ago on a coaching forum. I suggested that the 16th admendment be reversed, just like the 18th. There is no reason that the federal government performs its primary functions that it cannot run off other taxes, than Federal income tax, i.e, tarriffs and excise taxes being the big ones. GET RID OF IT. That should be the point of the tea party not Obama, or another Bush. Shift the debt to states based on population. Let the states deside matters such as education, state military, healthcare, and so on. The Federal government should be reduced to its primary functions discussed in Adams Smiths book wealth of nations. Infrustructure, higher education, military, and printing and coining money. The 16th admendment shifted the balance of powers to the federal gov't away from the states, creating an ununified nation with certain political instability.
States should decide on issues such as abortion, gun controll, education, healthcare, drinking age, speed limits, and so on, without the federal government holding the purse over their heads. If you don't like what is going on in Tennessee, move to another state. I am not saying states can go back to Jim Crow days, we should still respect the constitution, but the power of the purse gives the Federal gov't too much control, in my opinion.
This is just a start, what do you guys think, and to conclude, remember Fed can only get bigger by raising tarriffs, or excise taxes, which keeps capital here. Fire away.

 

[Guest]

You'll make their head hurt Possum, they ain't used to thinking about anything but themselves.

 

[twilson]

I think it sounds good in theory I seriously doubt that the current administration would be willing to relinquish any of their powers. I definetly agree that the tariffs need to be raised however I think we are in debt too bad to be bullying many of them around. If I remember right our trade deficit is around 30 billion a month which is about 25% of the increase in the national debt. It would definetly be a start. Also us giving money to every other country in the world when we are way in over our heads. Doc I can definetly think of other people as well. Thats a pretty shallow statement I would give anyone in need the shirt off my back. I am just not willing to keep giving when people dont deserve it or dont even care to try and better themselves so they dont have to ask for handouts.

 

[finbully]

My solutions (just a start):

1. No more professional politicians - term limits at all levels. This leads to governance for the people, by the people.

2. As far as the IRS goes - get rid of it. Replace with a national consumption tax, with no taxes on the staples so the poor do not pay any or very much.

3. No government benefits for non-citizens.

 

[beetlespin]

Agree with finbully. I disagree with you guys on tariffs though. I think they should be totally eliminated. If we raise tariffs the other countries follow suit. Tariffs do nothing but make the things we buy and sell more expensive. They are noithing but a well disguised tax on consumers.

 

[Guest]

Possum are you a paradox? You pretty much summed up nearly everything I have been saying all along. The government and it's control is the biggest problem in this country. That is why I fight so hard against the democrats. All they are about is more control.

Take the federal government out of what it has no business in and let the country run and things will improve dramatically. I would bet nearly overnight.

 

[Possum]

cheez - 9/17/2009 5:04 AM

Possum are you a paradox? You pretty much summed up nearly everything I have been saying all along. The government and it's control is the biggest problem in this country. That is why I fight so hard against the democrats. All they are about is more control.

Take the federal government out of what it has no business in and let the country run and things will improve dramatically. I would bet nearly overnight.

Cheez it is not just the Dems. The Republicans are the one that started all this bail out crap under Bush. There are very few Barry Goldwater Republicans left, although after the last administration, I do think it is sending Republicans back to their political roots. Only problem is both parties are too loyal to each other and see no wrong with their leadership. I honesty believe if Clinton had took us to war against Iraq, and there were not any WMD, it wood have been very ugly, I think the man would have been removed from office. Kennith Star would have had a field day. There were very few Republicans who suported his decision to bomb military positions in Iraq Dec. of 98, so Sadam would alow the inspectors back in. Cheez, you seem like you really dislike Democrates, let me ask you this, Do you favor a one party system?

 

[Guest]

Possum - 9/17/2009 11:55 AM

cheez - 9/17/2009 5:04 AM

Possum are you a paradox? You pretty much summed up nearly everything I have been saying all along. The government and it's control is the biggest problem in this country. That is why I fight so hard against the democrats. All they are about is more control.

Take the federal government out of what it has no business in and let the country run and things will improve dramatically. I would bet nearly overnight.

Cheez it is not just the Dems. The Republicans are the one that started all this bail out crap under Bush. There are very few Barry Goldwater Republicans left, although after the last administration, I do think it is sending Republicans back to their political roots. Only problem is both parties are too loyal to each other and see no wrong with their leadership. I honesty believe if Clinton had took us to war against Iraq, and there were not any WMD, it wood have been very ugly, I think the man would have been removed from office. Kennith Star would have had a field day. There were very few Republicans who suported his decision to bomb military positions in Iraq Dec. of 98, so Sadam would alow the inspectors back in. Cheez, you seem like you really dislike Democrates, let me ask you this, Do you favor a one party system?

It is not the democrats that I have a problem with. It is their platform that gets more liberal and socialistic with every turn. I have two major problems with the democrats' platform. First and foremost in their uncompromising support of mass murder of innocent human life transparrently disguised as choice. Secondly is their belief that the government has all the answers to solve all problems. It is all about control with them. Not at all about helping anyone but themselves. They have successfully hoodwinked millions of voters into believing that they are for the working man when nothing could be farther from the truth.

I do not like most of the modern day Republicans. They are RINOs and very few have a conservative bone in their body. However they are pro life for the most part and that is where I come down. I am not a one issue voter but I do have a standard and it is pro life. If a candidate is not for preserving innocent human life from the get go then nothing else he says or does matters. Republicans mostly are for less government intrusion into the lives of Americans and this too is a priority of mine.

There are some democrats that I like and would vote for in any race they run. Zell Miller is one of them. Unfortunately his own party threw him under the bus because he would not toe the liberal line and adhere to their disgusting platform. He was an old school democrat. The kind that most voters think the rest of his party are. Most of the voters think they are voting for a Zell Miller or FDR when in fact they are voting for Carl Marx. All they look at is whether the name has a (D) or an (R)

I actually wish we had a three party system but that is pretty much a pipe dream unless and until there is some major changes in the thinking of Americans. Probably will not happen until after the collapse. Then it will not matter much anyway.

 

[Davo]

finbully - 9/17/2009 2:29 AM

My solutions (just a start):

1. No more professional politicians - term limits at all levels. This leads to governance for the people, by the people.

2. As far as the IRS goes - get rid of it. Replace with a national consumption tax, with no taxes on the staples so the poor do not pay any or very much.

3. No government benefits for non-citizens.

Agreed. I would also like to add that in order to receive government assistance....food stamps, welfare, etc. a person must show a concerted effort towards trying to get a job. You should not get more money because you decided to have more kids...yet still have no job. Welfare should be a leg up, not a hand out.

Get the government out of the private sector all together. They can help with the regulations, but should not be in any form of competition.

Make prison a scary place again. Now it is basically 3 meals a day and cable TV (or so I've seen from the media). How about starting hard labor again. Make prisoners do something productive to help repay their debt to society. If there isn't anything for them to do, bring in big rocks, give them hammers and have them bust them into smaller rocks.

Fix DUI laws...and I mean make them really have some teeth. $10,000 fine for first time offense. 2nd offense is $15,000 fine and automatic impoundment of the car they were driving. 3rd offense is just prison, no questions. DUI puts other people at too much risk that are totally innocent. And have you ever noticed that it seems like the drunk driver in an accident usually only has a couple of bruises while the people in the other car are killed.

I could go on and on but I get too worked up.

 

[Possum]

Davo - 9/17/2009 8:22 PM

finbully - 9/17/2009 2:29 AM

My solutions (just a start):

1. No more professional politicians - term limits at all levels. This leads to governance for the people, by the people.

2. As far as the IRS goes - get rid of it. Replace with a national consumption tax, with no taxes on the staples so the poor do not pay any or very much.

3. No government benefits for non-citizens.

Agreed. I would also like to add that in order to receive government assistance....food stamps, welfare, etc. a person must show a concerted effort towards trying to get a job. You should not get more money because you decided to have more kids...yet still have no job. Welfare should be a leg up, not a hand out.

Get the government out of the private sector all together. They can help with the regulations, but should not be in any form of competition.

Make prison a scary place again. Now it is basically 3 meals a day and cable TV (or so I've seen from the media). How about starting hard labor again. Make prisoners do something productive to help repay their debt to society. If there isn't anything for them to do, bring in big rocks, give them hammers and have them bust them into smaller rocks.

Fix DUI laws...and I mean make them really have some teeth. $10,000 fine for first time offense. 2nd offense is $15,000 fine and automatic impoundment of the car they were driving. 3rd offense is just prison, no questions. DUI puts other people at too much risk that are totally innocent. And have you ever noticed that it seems like the drunk driver in an accident usually only has a couple of bruises while the people in the other car are killed.

I could go on and on but I get too worked up.

So, Dems want to abort babies, and the Rep. want to starve them to death. Wow.

 

[Davo]

Possum - 9/17/2009 10:27 PM

Davo - 9/17/2009 8:22 PM

finbully - 9/17/2009 2:29 AM

My solutions (just a start):

1. No more professional politicians - term limits at all levels. This leads to governance for the people, by the people.

2. As far as the IRS goes - get rid of it. Replace with a national consumption tax, with no taxes on the staples so the poor do not pay any or very much.

3. No government benefits for non-citizens.

Agreed. I would also like to add that in order to receive government assistance....food stamps, welfare, etc. a person must show a concerted effort towards trying to get a job. You should not get more money because you decided to have more kids...yet still have no job. Welfare should be a leg up, not a hand out.

Get the government out of the private sector all together. They can help with the regulations, but should not be in any form of competition.

Make prison a scary place again. Now it is basically 3 meals a day and cable TV (or so I've seen from the media). How about starting hard labor again. Make prisoners do something productive to help repay their debt to society. If there isn't anything for them to do, bring in big rocks, give them hammers and have them bust them into smaller rocks.

Fix DUI laws...and I mean make them really have some teeth. $10,000 fine for first time offense. 2nd offense is $15,000 fine and automatic impoundment of the car they were driving. 3rd offense is just prison, no questions. DUI puts other people at too much risk that are totally innocent. And have you ever noticed that it seems like the drunk driver in an accident usually only has a couple of bruises while the people in the other car are killed.

I could go on and on but I get too worked up.

So, Dems want to abort babies, and the Rep. want to starve them to death. Wow.

I don't want to starve anyone, but if you can't afford to have kids, why in the world should I support you just so you can keep breeding. Having children is a responsibility that shouldn't be taken lightly and if you don't have enough sense to realize that you can't feed your 5 other kids without free money, well, maybe you shouldn't be having a 6th kid.

 

[Possum]

Davo - 9/17/2009 9:54 PM

Possum - 9/17/2009 10:27 PM

Davo - 9/17/2009 8:22 PM

finbully - 9/17/2009 2:29 AM

My solutions (just a start):

1. No more professional politicians - term limits at all levels. This leads to governance for the people, by the people.

2. As far as the IRS goes - get rid of it. Replace with a national consumption tax, with no taxes on the staples so the poor do not pay any or very much.

3. No government benefits for non-citizens.

Agreed. I would also like to add that in order to receive government assistance....food stamps, welfare, etc. a person must show a concerted effort towards trying to get a job. You should not get more money because you decided to have more kids...yet still have no job. Welfare should be a leg up, not a hand out.

Get the government out of the private sector all together. They can help with the regulations, but should not be in any form of competition.

Make prison a scary place again. Now it is basically 3 meals a day and cable TV (or so I've seen from the media). How about starting hard labor again. Make prisoners do something productive to help repay their debt to society. If there isn't anything for them to do, bring in big rocks, give them hammers and have them bust them into smaller rocks.

Fix DUI laws...and I mean make them really have some teeth. $10,000 fine for first time offense. 2nd offense is $15,000 fine and automatic impoundment of the car they were driving. 3rd offense is just prison, no questions. DUI puts other people at too much risk that are totally innocent. And have you ever noticed that it seems like the drunk driver in an accident usually only has a couple of bruises while the people in the other car are killed.

I could go on and on but I get too worked up.

So, Dems want to abort babies, and the Rep. want to starve them to death. Wow.

I don't want to starve anyone, but if you can't afford to have kids, why in the world should I support you just so you can keep breeding. Having children is a responsibility that shouldn't be taken lightly and if you don't have enough sense to realize that you can't feed your 5 other kids without free money, well, maybe you shouldn't be having a 6th kid.

Sorry kid your mom should have made sure the guy wore a condum. We are not talking about responsible people or we would not be having this conversation, either way. Wish it was that simple. So, are you saying if you cannot afford it don't have it? There is the possibility that lack of assistace would make people more responsible, but if you study history it does not stand. Is ther the possibility that without assistance it could lead to more abortions legal or otherwise?

 

[Guest]

I'll tell you one better and it is happening every day in all neighborhoods. These young girls that just get out of high school, don't get an education, don't have any skills to speak of to get a job, no jobs are to be found so they get pregnant, go to the welfare office and say that their parents have kicked them out of the house wheather it is true or not and then they get free county/state assistance for the unborn baby and themselves while they are pregnant, when the baby gets here the girls can't work and take care of the baby so they get free lodging,free electricity, free welfare for themselves and the baby, then their boy friends move in with them and all is well in their lives. Then the girl gets pregnant again and the whole story is repeated again and again and we pay for this welfare as tax payers. How can this be stopped? I don't think it can. There is a woman who lives close to me and her daughter had 3 children, she took off and left the kids with her mother, granny now keeps the kids and can't work and they all are on welfare forever or untill the kids get to the age of 18 and the girls will probably be pregnant by then and the cycle is repeated. This is not a democrat or republican problem, it is a problem for everyone and I don't see a solution in sight.

 

[Guest]

Found this interesting take on family value issues when I was looking the teenage pregnancy rate in red vs blue states (it happens to be higher in red states, for the most part).

http://www.occams-razor.info/2005/10/red_vs_blue_myth_vs_reality.html

 

[spnplgr]

Easy fix. Put all registered voters' names in a big drum. Spin the drum and pull names for all offices. Winners could say no thanks and opt out. Eventual winners go to DC, all expenses paid including furnished housing. One term later they return to their job that had to be held open for them. Then, new batch of legislators go to DC. No Lawyers or Preachers allowed to hold office.

You'd see a big difference quickly because there ain't no way we could randomly select a bunch of legislators as rotten as what we currently have.

 

[tyler ware]

Just be the salt of the world. Have faith that God is still in control. Learn how to remove the logs from our own eyes that way we can help our brothers remove theirs.

 

[foodsaver]

I think mandatory birth control and drug testing to get a welfare check would be a huge improvement. By birth control I mean the shot or something of that nature so that they couldn't add to the problem while they were on welfare. On the drug test, If I have to take a drug test to earn the money that pays the taxes that pays for their welfare why can't they take a test to get the check? We could also have people on welfare spend at least a part of their week cleaning up trash on the side of the road or working on parks and rec projects so that they are at least contributing something for the money they are sucking out of the system.

 

[Davo]

foodsaver - 9/18/2009 7:48 AM

I think mandatory birth control and drug testing to get a welfare check would be a huge improvement. By birth control I mean the shot or something of that nature so that they couldn't add to the problem while they were on welfare. On the drug test, If I have to take a drug test to earn the money that pays the taxes that pays for their welfare why can't they take a test to get the check? We could also have people on welfare spend at least a part of their week cleaning up trash on the side of the road or working on parks and rec projects so that they are at least contributing something for the money they are sucking out of the system.

Agreed, you can't solve what is already out there but you can prevent it from continuing.

And yes I am saying if you can't afford it don't have it. If you are too dumb to realize that you can't afford a child you should not be circulating the gene pool.

 

[finbully]

foodsaver - 9/18/2009 6:48 AM

I think mandatory birth control and drug testing to get a welfare check would be a huge improvement. By birth control I mean the shot or something of that nature so that they couldn't add to the problem while they were on welfare. On the drug test, If I have to take a drug test to earn the money that pays the taxes that pays for their welfare why can't they take a test to get the check? We could also have people on welfare spend at least a part of their week cleaning up trash on the side of the road or working on parks and rec projects so that they are at least contributing something for the money they are sucking out of the system.

EXACTLY!

 

[Guest]

tyler ware - 9/18/2009 7:26 AM

Just be the salt of the world. Have faith that God is still in control. Learn how to remove the logs from our own eyes that way we can help our brothers remove theirs.

This is the liberal catch all copout phrase. As in this case it is totally taken out of context. emoRolleyes