Best Riding/Handling Boat?
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Carl Guffey
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<font size="2">I hate plasma to fuzzy. It is who is driving, makes all the difference in the world.emoLaugh </font>
kickinbass35
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I have ridden in an allison xb2002 and it was a very smooth ride in rough water suprised me. I normally fish out of a stratos 284 and it gives a smooth ride but not much top end speed
Carl Guffey
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<font size="2">Most will ride okay. There are some issues with certain models, check with JMax. As said above a lot of a boat ride depends on the driver. Same as a car......</font>
brushhog
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21 xl prostar, 250 xs 84mph gps..this was limited tx boat from stratos,turns on a dime best boat i ever owned!
TheFisherman
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Weight alone does not guarantee a smooth ride in rough water, but if you want to go faster in rough water and not get beat to death the big Allison or the 21 Bullet (it's almost 22foot) are really tough to beat. In rough water I like agility too (something not many talk about) and the lighter boats mentioned above are pretty smooth riding but much more agile to adjust in rough water. That's important because every wave is not just like thge last one and peak to peak distances vary. Some of the "ride" is driver dependent. All boats will have to slow down if the water is rough enough. I like a big 21 foot Ranger too but it's just too slow (for me) and the weight makes it slower to respond in rough water. I own a 20XD Bullet but wish I had bought the 21. Everyone I know that owns one absolutely swears by the ride. I think you can get in one for a good bit less than a Ranger or Triton.
Also, some think that weight equals strength too, but not true. My well used 1,050 pound Bullet is 17 years old and doesn't have any stress cracks or anything. Strength is a function of ratio of glass to resin and a heavy hull is usually heavy because of being "resin rich" It's no stronger than a boat that has an optimum ratio, but lighter.
Also, some think that weight equals strength too, but not true. My well used 1,050 pound Bullet is 17 years old and doesn't have any stress cracks or anything. Strength is a function of ratio of glass to resin and a heavy hull is usually heavy because of being "resin rich" It's no stronger than a boat that has an optimum ratio, but lighter.
Bassallday
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Champion, I have a ''mean 16'' with a 150 xr2 and it handles the worst of it wide open.I passed a 21' bullet with a 250 xs one time in 3-4' chop.the only time i will pass a bullet.
Paul Nichols
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If you passed a 21' Bullet with a Champion with a 150 HP in rough water the guy you passed must have had no idea you guys were ''racing''...LOL!
This is also the first time I've ever heard ANYONE say a Norris Craft was a good riding boat...LOL...they are well built boats and do run good, but the rough water ride isn't one of their strong points. The driver does make a huge difference in the ride of a boat, but Mario Andretti can't make a logging truck ride ''good''...LOL.
Paul
This is also the first time I've ever heard ANYONE say a Norris Craft was a good riding boat...LOL...they are well built boats and do run good, but the rough water ride isn't one of their strong points. The driver does make a huge difference in the ride of a boat, but Mario Andretti can't make a logging truck ride ''good''...LOL.
Paul
Carl Guffey
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<font size="2">Come ride with me, you wouldn't want to ride in anything else.(ha-ha) I love my craft, because it fits me. </font></p>
<font size="2">The one problem that I have seen with drivers is there are those who drive and those who point. The ones that point cause damage, the ones that drive have boats that last for a good while.emoCool </font></p>
<font size="2">The one problem that I have seen with drivers is there are those who drive and those who point. The ones that point cause damage, the ones that drive have boats that last for a good while.emoCool </font></p>
Superbad
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I have a Triton 18X....very smooth ride. emoThumbsup
Bassallday
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we were not racing,his boat just couldnt handle the heavy chop,after we hit the calmer water he was gone in 2 minutes. the champion has a deeper v hull and is heavier,so he was in a world of hurt in that large chop,the champion is made to handle big waves better,thats all.
Paul Nichols
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LOL...ok...how long is your boat and what is the dead rise? I'm 99% sure the Bullet has a much steaper dead rise (21 or 23 dgree) and is nearly 22' long
Ps...I've been in a bunch of Norris Craft boats over the years and driven many as well...
A Norris Craft would be in my top 5 bass boats that I would own because how well they're built, how they run and how they look...not for their ride. We can all agree to disagree on some things...
Paul
Ps...I've been in a bunch of Norris Craft boats over the years and driven many as well...
A Norris Craft would be in my top 5 bass boats that I would own because how well they're built, how they run and how they look...not for their ride. We can all agree to disagree on some things...Paul
Bassallday
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16' .no idea what dead rise is.sorry i said anything about the deal,don't want to argue about this or that.Let me ask u a far out question what would u want out on lake michigan a 21' bullet or a 21'champion?
Paul Nichols
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I'm sorry if I offended you in anyway, I wasn't trying to start an argument...I apologize. To answer your question I would rather have a 21' Bullet. The Champion boats do ride well, but they're far to slow for me. I've had the opportunity to ride in and drive just about major brand bass boat out there, some were MUCH better than others. The 21' Bullet has everything I look for in a boat...speed, ride handling, fish ability and looks. I would put a 21' Bullet up against any bass boat out there for ride with speed. Everyone's likes and dislikes are different, I guess that's why they make so many different brand boats...lol.
Paul
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stratos21xl
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I prefer a heavier boat myself especially for fishing. How much time do you actually spend riding up the river vs fishing. Granted if you have a faster boat you can cover more water in a shorter time frame. I would much rather have a little slower boat that I dont have to fight with everytime the wind blows more than 15 or 20 mph while trying to fish. It all boils down to personal preference and what each of us are willing to compromise on. There is no one perfect boat...if there were then we wouldnt have so many boat makers and so many options. For me it was having a more fishable and organized boat. I overheard someone say " I've never seen a fish that can swim 70 plus mph." That kinda made good sense to me.
Bassallday
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thankyou very much for your kind response.I was like,crap i rubbed someone the wrong way and i should of kept my mouth shut.no hard feelings for sure.
Paul Nichols
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We're all good... Things can come across a lot different than they're intended on the net sometimes.
Paul
Things can come across a lot different than they're intended on the net sometimes.Paul
Bassallday,</p>
These are all peoples OPINIONS and everyone feels like their boat is the best. </p>
Not trying to start anything, but you do realize who Paul Nichols is right???? He holds many boat records as a professional boat driver. He has a lot of experience with various boats and his opinion is one that should be valued. He made a living dealing with boats so he has a LOT of experience to base his opinion on.
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I get to ride and drive a lot of boats myself because of what I do, but don't get the opportunity to drive each one in 3' swells, but I do get to hit 1' footers all the time. If it rides like crap hitting 1' wake, and they are a lot that do, then it is really going to ride like crap hitting 3' waves. I personally like a champion and the ride and speed of 96 19' with a 175 EFI mercury I worked on was above average but not the best I have drove under "normal" conditions hitting 1' wake off other boats. My buddy's 21' bullet drives better under the same conditions and it has some speed to boot. But still doesn't match the ride of the 20' Vision that I drove 60MPH on 3' swells and could not believe how smooth the ride was. It was like most other boats on 6" chop. There are a lot if factors to figure in other that sheer weigh of a boat. Like the angle of the "V" will drasticly effect ride. The flatter it is, the rougher (in general) it will ride. Just my .02
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These are all peoples OPINIONS and everyone feels like their boat is the best. </p>
Not trying to start anything, but you do realize who Paul Nichols is right???? He holds many boat records as a professional boat driver. He has a lot of experience with various boats and his opinion is one that should be valued. He made a living dealing with boats so he has a LOT of experience to base his opinion on.
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I get to ride and drive a lot of boats myself because of what I do, but don't get the opportunity to drive each one in 3' swells, but I do get to hit 1' footers all the time. If it rides like crap hitting 1' wake, and they are a lot that do, then it is really going to ride like crap hitting 3' waves. I personally like a champion and the ride and speed of 96 19' with a 175 EFI mercury I worked on was above average but not the best I have drove under "normal" conditions hitting 1' wake off other boats. My buddy's 21' bullet drives better under the same conditions and it has some speed to boot. But still doesn't match the ride of the 20' Vision that I drove 60MPH on 3' swells and could not believe how smooth the ride was. It was like most other boats on 6" chop. There are a lot if factors to figure in other that sheer weigh of a boat. Like the angle of the "V" will drasticly effect ride. The flatter it is, the rougher (in general) it will ride. Just my .02
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