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some of you fellas know me and some don't i help with the ratmans tx last year i checked live wells almost every fri nite and every fri nite i said to my self and to others who in there right mind would come to a tx with fish in there live wells and talking about the one hit wonders i won 1 tx last year it was one of the best days i have ever had on the water i fished most of the cba's all of the ratmans and grants sporting goods i fish because i enjoy the compention and the fellowship and i don't think about people cheating at something most of us just enjoy doing
 
popeyedpete - 1/11/2010 9:00 PM Rodbuilder2 is the most consistent angler on the Chickamauga. He can catch 14 3/4 inch fish all day long. emoLaugh
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Has anyone ever been caught cheating by the "livewell check"? That would have to be the dumbest person ever. I know alot of tx's do it but do you really think someone would drive to the lake at 6 am with a boat load of fish? I never entertain the thought or rumors of anyone doing this. If anything I personally think less of the accuser because a lack of evidence. It is a very serious accusation to accuse someone of cheating, kinda like calling them a rapist. If you don't have very good evidence of this act ( like video) you should never accuse anyone of this. If a person seriously thinks about their fellow anglers having to cheat to win they should just take up bowling so you can witness everything. I trust everyone. I have never felt like i was fishing against a cheater.

It's just fishing
 
I just could not stand it and had to reply to this thread. I am going to be honest here in that I have been on both sides of this fence. It has been my experience that most of the time when someone is accused of cheating in any sport it comes from that they must be cheating because they are doing to good. Not that they are trying harder, just better, or just luckier on any given day. Accusations of cheating are very serious in the sport of fishing, not just a slap on the wrist, fines, or sit out a season. The fines for cheating in a fishing tournament are you are banned for life. Why would anyone want to take that kind of chance.
 
CATCH does livewell checks. We actually had a guy show up with a couple of live white bass in his livewell a while back. Obviously they don't count toward the total tournament weight, but we have a trash fish award. Said he forgot about them. So we released them and let him fish. We all should probably forget the livewell checks and ask for liscenses, registrations, pfds, fire extinguishers etc. Maybe we should start checking coolers for beer and tackle boxes for drugs. Maybe we should check for casting nets or seines so live bait can't be caught. All area tournaments that I have fished say that they will abide by state regulations, so why don't we hold everyone accountable to the laundry list of regulations?

It's all in fun and fellowship with some competition mixed in. Thieves will steal, liars will lie and cheaters will cheat. It's like I've heard all my life - "locking the door only keeps and honest man honest".
 
I have to agree with jeff it is a very serious accusation to call some body a cheater most of us that fish tx it is in the back of your mind I to won one of ratman tx the very last one and I got laid off from work that same day if it would have not been for the guy that fished with me offering to pay for all the gas and entry fee I would have never thought twice about fishing it the same went for the cba tx I fished. I only fished 2 finished 3rd in one and 6th in the other and never fished anymore all year but I am a better night fisherman than day I just pick and choose what I want to fish so I guess I am a one hit wonder some times but the thought of cheating has never crossed my mind my dad fished with harison bassmasters and the cba all through the 80s and early 90s he said that was just not a issue but now the pots are bigger and stakes are higher its an issue there are 2 people you have to beat in a tx the ones that r good and the ones that cheat
 
I agree with everything that has been said. I hope we do not have any cheaters in any of the tournaments that we fish but it does happen. Sometimes people are just stupid. Case in point was the idiot last year that tied out a bunch of bass on one of the BASS tournaments. Another angler found one of them and reported it. I believe they marked the fish and sure enough the guy shows up with staked out fish. He was banned from ever fishing another BASS tournament. The thing they pointed out was the fish he had would still not have got him anything, they were too small. emoScratch They pointed out they had no idea what he was thinking. I already posted it but I am going to fish the smaller ones this year and try to make the CFFs, the Catch and the USABASSIN ones. I hope that if there are some no counts out there they will leave the smaller tournaments alone. emoRolleyes Jmax
 
Jamx, I have been thinking about this one, and I guess there is more than one view, but in my opinion, I would think that there is more of a chance of having a cheater in a SMALLER tx....reason being, there are more people in a bigger TX, greater chance of someone knowing or catching the person, and the bigger TXs are usually very well run with measures put into place to keep cheating down. Kinda like people who rob conveince stores...there isnt that much money in one, but less chance of getting caught than in a big bank!:emoticon:
 
The penalty for cheating goes way beyond being banned for life! You better not be seen around any boat ramp...especially late at night!
 
churly - 1/12/2010 5:27 PM The penalty for cheating goes way beyond being banned for life! You better not be seen around any boat ramp...especially late at night!
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Wormhook, that has also been on my mind as well. I thought about the same thing. I guess where a bigger tournament was involved the chance of using a detector would be greater. :eek: There is really no way to win, if a cheater is there we all need to do our best to catch that person and get them into the publics eye and have proff of coarse before anything is done. emoPolice Jmax
 
Well I would like to know how many on here would actually turn someone in. I know everyone will say that they would turn someone in but really I think only a few would if they thought they had a chance to win and if you didn't think you did you would be like oh well hope they do not win. I actually caught a couple of guys cheating and turned them in just a little over a year ago. They were getting out of the boat fishing and I didn't think that it was right so I found the directors fishing told them and they went and took a look. They were very surprised that we told them, I didn't have a chance to win we hadn't even caught a fish by this time. But as a tournament director it was my duty I felt to turn them in. Whether or not they would have had a chance to win was irrelevant to me. Not trying to hijack this thread but I am just curious.
 
I turned some guys in for walking the docks at HB marina a couple of years ago. They won the tx anyway. I witnessed it and even told the guy to get back in his boat.
 
beetlespin - 1/12/2010 6:57 PM

I turned some guys in for walking the docks at HB marina a couple of years ago. They won the tx anyway. I witnessed it and even told the guy to get back in his boat.
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see thats the problem BS people turn in people and nothing happens to them, thats crap.
 
I wouldn't think twice about turning somebody in weather I had a fish or not because if somebody that cheats and wins and the guys that came in 2nd worked them buts off for what they had its not right
 

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