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You guys really just don't get it. Keep listening to Beck, Limbaugh, and Fox. They will tell you the truth.
 

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News Flash!!!!!! The assailant had no political affiliation. Nut job pot smoker denied entry into Millitary doesn't sound much like a right wing neo con. Democrats jumped the gun on this one. There has been no connection to any political party whatsoever!!!!! So all that crap Outcaster wrote was just that crap... The left tried to use this as an excuse to benefit themselves. Politics at its worst.
 
Sniperchoke - 1/11/2011 2:39 PM

News Flash!!!!!! The assailant had no political affiliation. Nut job pot smoker denied entry into Millitary doesn't sound much like a right wing neo con. Democrats jumped the gun on this one. There has been no connection to any political party whatsoever!!!!! So all that crap Outcaster wrote was just that crap... The left tried to use this as an excuse to benefit themselves. Politics at its worst.
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You and spur are getting like cheez....... I have to explain everything to him too. You read something and hear only what you want to hear. Not once did I mention any political party. I did call out the wacko right wing of the conservative movement for creating a dangerous political environment. I don't care that the assailant had no spoken party affiliation. He let his Glock 9mm do his talking. He clearly intended to shoot someone that works for the gov't (which btw I fail to see the logic of how we as a society allow someone to be too mentally unstable to be allowed to go to community college, and not be allowed into the military to walk in, pass a background check, buy a automatic 9mm handgun with a 30 round clip, conceal and carry it all perfectly legal).

I was using this tragedy to make a larger point about the toxic nature of our politics over the last 2-3 years. Additionally I never claimed Beck, Limbaugh, Savage, Palin or any other right wing wacko caused THIS nutjob to do these horrible things. Again you read something, and hear what you want to hear.

What has happened over the last couple of years has gotten way out of control. With "targeted" congressional districts, If we can't vote'em out use 2nd amendment solutions, take back or overthrow the gov't,and talk of revolution coming from TV, radio and the internet. People referring to someone with a differing opinion as the enemy, Hitler, Stalin, or even the Devil. The left side has been guilty some of this too. That's why it is so important for the rest of us to call it out every time we see it. The left side has done a much better job of hushing and ignoring it's radical side, while the radical side of the right seems to be taking over mainstream conservative thought. All of us don't like the gov't from time to time, especially when times are tough, and if our party is not it power. But what we can't do is allow the current toxic political environment to continue, because pretty soon smart, caring people (like Gabriele Giffords, and Judge John Roll) will not want to serve in Gov't . Then all of us will have the wacko's in charge.

Furthermore if my using this tragedy to point out such toxic, dangerous political environment, and call for it's end offends you, then too bad! I have quite frankly grown tired of hearing, on TV and Radio, and (from some of you), that a liberal/progressive point of view is evil, and straight from the gates of hell. That's all.
 
"This "Lock and Load", "God and Guns" political rhetoric being spewed buy the right wing is not just a metaphor. Some are now acting on it. "


Outcaster is this not your quote. But then you say that you never said the tragedy was caused by right wing rhetoric. You are all over the place on this one. Your wrong sorry.
 
Danny, its pretty clear what you meant when you started this thread, lets not beat around the bush and pretend that EVERYBODY is as stupid as most liberals here. To quote your title, "Couldn't Vote Her Out... But wait! I still have options". Not sure what you think of when someone talks about voting, but a reasonable person thinks about politics, or elections, fair to go there right? Its really just time to admit you took the common liberal stance and made the jump from an absolute lunatic's murderous actions and tried to tie them to a political party. He was not involved in any political organization, except it seems he had gone to a rally for the Rep Giffords several years ago. He did not listen to Palin, Limbaugh or Beck. It had NOTHING to do with the Glen Beck ad you posted, or Palin's cross hair map. You are politicizing this insane act with any group or individual you can that is not a Liberal. To pull the BS your trying now while backpedaling is pretty absurd.
 
You hear what you want to hear. Or maybe it's a comprehension problem. I made special effort NOT to say that THIS gunman killed because of political ideology. But that flew right over you heads. But instead used this tragedy to point out a growing problem within our political system. The issue I raised is being discussed all over this nation. The victim was even talking about this issue some months ago. The Nasa Astronaut, Ms Giffords own brother-in-law is saying many of the same things, I, and many others have said. It's quite predictable that some the ones crying foul the loudest, were the very ones condoning, promoting the problem in the first place. No back pedaling here... I stand by every word I said. I can't help that some of you can't seem to comprehend. Maybe I should have used smaller words.
 
outcaster - 1/11/2011 3:12 PM

You and spur are getting like cheez....... I have to explain everything to him too.
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You do not have to explain anything to me. Matter of fact you are wasting your time even trying. I've had your number since before there even was a political forum here. These other guys have been giving you the benefit of the doubt. This thread has removed any doubt that the other members here might have had about your beliefs. By your own admission Danny you are a godless man. As such you have no hope in anything. That is why you grasp for straws and try to put blame on someone or something that does not exist. You can be as tired as you want to be about liberals being called evil. Until liberals are no longer evil you will continue to hear it. We simply call a duck a duck.
 
See, this is exactly the kind of stuff I'm talking about, you know... the part that flew straight over your little punkin heads. Thanks cheez, you cleared things up for us. godless, evil.... and apparently a duck too. You forgot "fag lover", and the "enemy". Coming from you I will bear it as a badge of honor.
 
So your brain can register it, I have pulled out ANOTHER qoute from you post Danny:

"But instead used this tragedy to point out a growing problem within our political system"

THIS SHOOTING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POLITICS!!!!!!!!!

So your telling me that if "Bob" the gas station attendant gets shot today, its because of evil gas companies, and not the 12 packs of smokes Bubba stole during the robbery right? Your simply making a jump that DOES NOT EXIST!

Yes, I agree, the rhetoric from BOTH parties is out of hand, but it has ZERO, (that means NADA, ZIP, ZILTCH for you thick skulled lliberals) to do with this incident!
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outcaster - 1/12/2011 6:07 PM

godless and evil are much better than thickheaded or nut case.
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Are you sure? On this thread you sound like a Godless, thickheaded nut case. I'm not sure about evil but you are an liberal extremest and there are conservative extremest on here as well. Sometimes some of the extremest on here sound like they're only about a frog's hair from being like the shooter all are taking about in this thread and America. Generally extremests on both sides just sound like dumbasses to me about 95% of the time.
 
Let's see now.... a godless, thickheaded nutcase, evil (some aren't sure, some are), a liberal extremist, a frogs hair from being an assassin (I think that qualifies as evil), a dumbass, something about forestry and trees, and a duck. Did any of you watch the Tuscon Memorial Service? The President took this tragedy (as I did) to call for the calming down of political rhetoric. He spent a good part of is speech talking about the subject much more elegantly than I can do, saying most of the things I have already said. Oh I understand now, he too is a godless, evil, liberal extremist, thickheaded nutcase. Just ask cheez, he'll give you the complete rundown. You guys are amazing. Generally when someone can't make an opposing argument about a topic, in this case political rhetoric, they do one of two things. 1: Attack the context in which the topic was brought up. or 2: Attack the individual with the opposing view. You guys did both. When one side starts calling names, the argument is over. So I'll consider it over.
 

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