Gays in the Military

[beetlespin]

ranger8 - 10/12/2009 8:30 PM

Exactly what does one have to do to be considered "gay"? Where is the line drawn?

Basically if you are a man and you want to have sex with another man there is a good chance you are gay. Is that pretty clear?

 

[elwestb]

...Hagan, ... that's pre anal ... I think... not real sure though. I'll look it up!

 

[Hagen]

I heard perchjercker and the magician where enlisting. They said it was going to be Fabulous!

 

[Fuzzy]

20 years retired AF in 2004. This is sad. Gays were already serving, make no doubt about it. What will be different is how and what is expected of heterosexuals now. We will lose quite a few good people serving in the military who will just leave. We will lose many because of disciplinary actions when they say or do something offensive to a gay person. Make no doubt, accept them openly serving in the military you will next accept them sucking face next to your family while eating out at your favorite restaurant. All boundaries will be pushed. At what point does a majority overrule the minority in a democracy?

 

[Buoy-Master]

Hagen - 10/12/2009 9:21 PM

I heard perchjercker and the magician where enlisting. They said it was going to be Fabulous!

I heard RamJack was following them. emoLaugh

 

[Hagen]

Ramjack is all about the SEAmen!

 

[elwestb]

Sadly enough, Fuzzy, what democracy? It's no longer here!

 

[Possum]

I think this is a good topic. I am not sure how I feel about, this issue. I would like tho think in a free society people should be able to pick how they want to live as long as they obey the law. We do not live in a Theocracy, we live in a Democratic society. To me it is one of the problems with a free society, but I love my freedom. Personally I think the last place we need the government is in our bedrooms. Just think it was not long ago conservatives did not want black people in the military. For those that say they served in combat, is that really on your mind when you are in battle? I don't really like the idea of gay people openly serving, but it is a free country.

 

[Davo]

I don't see the big deal. I don't know what you mean by health issues, it's not like those guys are toxic. Sure, the whole thing about being PC would suck, but look at the rest of the country.....we have become so PC it's just ridiculous. I think that if they want to serve, and make no mistake, they have been, they should be able to. I did like the whole don't ask don't tell thing, but even that is a bit goofy. I don't approve or condone it, but I don't care if they want to serve at all.

 

[hl&s]

On the health issue,</p>

"In the USA, it is estimated that nearly 220,000 men who have sex with men were living with HIV/AIDS in 2006, and nearly 5,000 had died. Around 48% of men diagnosed with HIV or AIDS in America in 2006 were probably exposed to the virus through male-to-male sexual contact."</p>

We would never accept, well the women wouldn't, men and women showering together at the same time in the service. The problems and likely scandels could keep the military in a turmoil. Is it ok for gay men to shower with straight men? Is it all right ? Would you want too ? He might get an uncontrollable crush on you.</p>

And what if the commanding gay officer finds you attractive ? He could really make life hard on you should you refuse his advances. Think that won't happen. Do you want yourself, or your children, to be subjected to this kind of pressure?</p>

Willeven saying the "G" word get you a court martial in the near future ?</p>

How many that don't see anything wrong with them serving openly have been in the armed forces, or have kids that are serving ? </p>

It is a free country, but free countries have to have laws to exists. Laws should protect the innocent and support society's best interest. Gays already live openly and freely in our country. Now they want to openly hold hands in our military. emoVomit </p>

 

[churly]

We need to just make up a "gay" branch to the military. we could send the gay force in to sweep for land mines. Or even better send the gays down into the rat holes to look for Bin Ladin!

Call me old school but I cant stand how society in-general has accepted this way of life. The good lord didn't program us to be this way and its not right. I dont think opening our minds to the "gay way" is any benifit to our society at all! Allowing these guys to get married and adopt kids is just plain wrong.

Wrenchin, I'd say that it would be metaphysically impossible to stay asleep while some fag sprayed starting fluid on your backside and then raped you. I'd say that dude was a fag too! Disguisting!

 

[SpurHunter]

Hey guys lets remember to have some control here. The crude comments are getting a little dicey.

 

[wrechin2]

ether will knock you out cold if done correctly. Like being put under for surgery.

 

[Bubbakat]

I can see it now on parade day on post. All those pink jump boots and some holding hands. Now that right there should put the other armies in other countries on notice quick. Can you see our founding fathers that fought the greatest army in the world at that time to bring freedom to our country and it turns around and allows these Oscar Myer wieners to go on public display with out fighting men. I think I'll go some where and drink myself into oblivion.

 

[beetlespin]

I hate to admit it but I agree with Churly. Now I know why fishinvol brings that starting fluid everytime we go fishing!!!

 

[Buoy-Master]

beetlespin - 10/13/2009 10:28 AM

I hate to admit it but I agree with Churly. Now I know why fishinvol brings that starting fluid everytime we go fishing!!!

And you thought you were just napping. Woke up with more than a headache huh!

Churly has a gift of putting things right out there. I agree!!!

 

[beetlespin]

Nah it didn't hurt...

 

[jon the fisherman]

I have no problem with gays, I just wish they would quit ramming their gayness down our throats.....no pun intended!

 

[Possum]

Well as a citizen you are expected to obey they law, vote, and take up for your rights when they are violated. They probably feel like the later. The same things were said during the civil rights movement. For the most part, same folks saying it.

 

[churly]

wrechin2 - 10/13/2009 11:30 AM

ether will knock you out cold if done correctly. Like being put under for surgery.

Oh okay, I thought you meant he was sprayin it on his but to make it numb!