HealthCare for Illegal Immigrants

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Why would 20+ Democrats be pulling for the healthcare bill to include ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS? If they are illegal, they should be deported, not given the opportunity for healthcare.</p>

The last time I checked, the term Illegal, meant "forbidden by law or statute". Why? Are they doing it in an effort to try and secure additional votes? Can we all not agree that the only thing they need is to be loaded up and sent back where they came from?</p>

 

[Guest]

I believe most all still get Indigent Healthcare, regardless of their legal status. By removing the need to go to an emergency room for non-life threatening health care items, it reduces cost to all users.

 

[spnplgr]

It's all about getting votes. They would sell this country down the tubes for votes.

 

[Shankopotamus]

To make matters worse- I saw a documentary a couple days ago on the healthcare plan...</p>

<font size="4">A provision in the plan is that ABORTIONS will be paid with tax dollars, any woman regardless ofneed, is eligible. All doctors, regardless of their beliefs,are REQUIRED to perform the abortion. If they refuse, they will lose their job!</font></p>

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[Guest]

Shankopotamus - 9/29/2009 4:30 AM



To make matters worse- I saw a documentary a couple days ago on the healthcare plan...</p>

<font size="4">A provision in the plan is that ABORTIONS will be paid with tax dollars, any woman regardless of need, is eligible. All doctors, regardless of their beliefs, are REQUIRED to perform the abortion. If they refuse, they will lose their job!</font></p>

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And some wonder why I think olbummer and the demonrats are evil.

 

[Oldman]

why does the usa think they should keep up the world?makes my blood boil thinking about it.

 

[timbo]

R14 - 9/28/2009 10:38 PM

I believe most all still get Indigent Healthcare, regardless of their legal status. By removing the need to go to an emergency room for non-life threatening health care items, it reduces cost to all users.

What difference would that make? We (the taxpayers) will still be paying for their healthcare. One thing Joe Wilson did when he shouted, "You lie!" was bring it to the forefront in everyone's mind. If the Democrats pass a healthcare bill that gives care to the illegal aliens, then everyone will know Joe Wilson was right and will hopefully hold the politicians feet to the fire. The way Congress will get around this is to give all illegal aliens amnesty and citizenship status. Then they'll argue about semantics instead of issues. This same political two step maneuver will be used when everyone's taxes go up. The Bush tax breaks are scheduled to expire next year. Waddaya wanna bet that they quietly let them expire? Anyone remember when, during the election, we were told that it was patriotic to pay taxes?

 

[Guest]

timbo - 9/29/2009 12:17 PM

R14 - 9/28/2009 10:38 PM

I believe most all still get Indigent Healthcare, regardless of their legal status. By removing the need to go to an emergency room for non-life threatening health care items, it reduces cost to all users.

What difference would that make?

It would reduce the cost of healthcare to all users; ie We would be paying less taxes for healthcare and emergency care service would improve (instead of being clogged by indigent healthcare).

 

[hl&s]

R14 - 9/29/2009 11:36 AM

timbo - 9/29/2009 12:17 PM

R14 - 9/28/2009 10:38 PM I believe most all still get Indigent Healthcare, regardless of their legal status. By removing the need to go to an emergency room for non-life threatening health care items, it reduces cost to all users.

What difference would that make?

It would reduce the cost of healthcare to all users; ie We would be paying less taxes for healthcare and emergency care service would improve (instead of being clogged by indigent healthcare).

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R14, are you saying that it is cheaper for the taxpayers to provide free check ups, operations, prescriptions, glasses, dental, abortions, and evaluations than it is for the taxpayers to pay for just emergency room visits for illegal immigrants ?</p>

Since they are here illegally anddo not pay taxes we should drop them off just inside their home border. That would save the most money for the people that are here legally andpay their taxes. It would also cut down on wait time and the number of medical professionals needed to do the job.</p>

Why should we pay anything ? Seems like we are in a hole now and trying to pass something we have no idea how we're going to pay for.</p>

 

[timbo]

Do you actually believe illegal aliens will change what they are doing? They know they are illegal and will do anything to avoid getting attention. They can go to an emergency room now, give a fake name, get whatever treatment they need and disappear. I would guess that an y kind of government healthcare would have some kind of ID card. ID cards will have names and addresses registered to the user. The last thing an illegal alien wants is an ID card that will give the INS an easier way to find them-not that it would do any good with the past and present politicians and Presidents we've had.

Just an example-do a little research on the estimated percentages of illegal aliens that took advantage of President Reagan's amnesty bill. I think it would shock you. I think it was something like less than 30%, if my memory serves me correctly(not sure I'd trust my memory!). It's been a while since I've seen the numbers and I'm getting older by the minute. anyway, the reason for the low numbers is because illegals did not want citizenship. They were happy with the status quo-making money, not having to pay taxes, and taking advantage of all the United States has to offer.

 

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R14 - 9/28/2009 10:38 PM I believe most all still get Indigent Healthcare, regardless of their legal status. By removing the need to go to an emergency room for non-life threatening health care items, it reduces cost to all users.

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Why would you not take the opportunity to send them back where they came from. They are illegal...</p>

 

[Guest]

Can you imigine what the cost would be to send them back?

 

[Dirk Diggler]

What cost...put them on a bus and drive them across the border...Instead of cutting the numbers on border patrol, they need to be doubled.

 

[Oldman]

i think open season would be the only cure.oh did i say that.

 

[Guest]

Doc1 - 9/29/2009 7:31 PM

Can you imigine what the cost would be to send them back?

If they would do it I will sponsor a busload going back. Betcha I would not be the only one either.

 

[Guest]

It would be nice if it was that simple. Half the bus load would have to be guards to keep them from getting off the bus at the first stop after they get on, fuel for the busses, pay a half a dozen guards, buy all the meals for everyone, stay overnite in lockdown, if one gets sick you have to take them to a hospital, etc. probaly cost at least 10 thousand dollars for a one way trip. The costs would be prohibbited. Now if they all lived on the border with mexico, the cost wouldn't be too much. I guess you could hire mexican guards since the cost would be cheap and they would probably turn them all lose when the departing bus got out of site.

 

[Guest]

Doc1 - 9/29/2009 9:15 PM

It would be nice if it was that simple. Half the bus load would have to be guards to keep them from getting off the bus at the first stop after they get on, fuel for the busses, pay a half a dozen guards, buy all the meals for everyone, stay overnite in lockdown, if one gets sick you have to take them to a hospital, etc. probaly cost at least 10 thousand dollars for a one way trip. The costs would be prohibbited. Now if they all lived on the border with mexico, the cost wouldn't be too much. I guess you could hire mexican guards since the cost would be cheap and they would probably turn them all lose when the departing bus got out of site.

Two guards with machine guns, some peanut butter sammiches and a bottle of Pepto Bismal.
Most of the illegals are within 500 miles of the border. 5 mile to the gallon bus. 500 divided by five is 100 gallons X about $3 a gallon.

Doable for under $1k

 

[Guest]

75% of the population in Dalton Ga. is illegals, where are you gonna find enough busses just to haul the ones in Dalton to the border? The problem will have to be done at the border. There is a fence that was started but I don't think it is finished. I saw on tv one night how they just climb over the fence by the hundreds, they patrol the fence but there isn't enough border patrols. It's like trying to dip water with a dip net.

 

[Guest]

Actually the hispanic population in Dalton is just a tad over 40% of 33,000 people. That is only about 13,000. Put 130 on each bus and you only need 100 buses. Whifield County has at least that many busses.
You solve 2 problems in Dalton. Get rid of the illegals and put some other folks back to work. Bet I could get enough people to fork over the grand to make it happen. Biggest problem I see is getting enough voulnteers to make about 26,000 peanut butter sammies. emoScratch

 

[Sniperchoke]

Thanks Cheez for setting Doc straight. That just proves libs will say anything to get their point across. I don't agree with shipping them off though because most are good family values people. Make them pay a fine and assimilate. They should militarize the boarder to prevent any further crossings because we can't support many more.