HealthCare for Illegal Immigrants

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cheez - 9/29/2009 11:04 PM

Actually the hispanic population in Dalton is just a tad over 40% of 33,000 people. That is only about 13,000. Put 130 on each bus and you only need 100 buses. Whifield County has at least that many busses.
You solve 2 problems in Dalton. Get rid of the illegals and put some other folks back to work. Bet I could get enough people to fork over the grand to make it happen. Biggest problem I see is getting enough voulnteers to make about 26,000 peanut butter sammies. emoScratch

Average school bus size is 72. Requiring 180 school bus to go about 2,485 miles (round trip) x 0.55 mileage reimbursement which would work out to around $250,000 on just fuel and maintenance cost of the school busses. Don't forget to add in pay for the 180 drivers and also the security force.

Besides, if you remove the 13,000 who is going to work in all the factories in Dalton?

 

[SpurHunter]

Besides, if you remove the 13,000 who is going to work in all the factories in Dalton?</p>

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Those would be called out of work Americans. </p>

 

[hl&s]

SpurHunter - 9/30/2009 2:44 PM

Besides, if you remove the 13,000 who is going to work in all the factories in Dalton?</p>

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Those would be called out of work Americans. </p>

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[Guest]

R14 - 9/30/2009 3:35 PM

Average school bus size is 72. Requiring 180 school bus to go about 2,485 miles (round trip) x 0.55 mileage reimbursement which would work out to around $250,000 on just fuel and maintenance cost of the school busses. Don't forget to add in pay for the 180 drivers and also the security force.

Besides, if you remove the 13,000 who is going to work in all the factories in Dalton?

Obviously you have never been to Dalton. If they can get 14 people in a minivan then 130 on a big ole school bus is no problemo. emoBigsmile

 

[twilson]

cheez - 9/29/2009 10:33 PM

Doc1 - 9/29/2009 7:31 PM

Can you imigine what the cost would be to send them back?

If they would do it I will sponsor a busload going back. Betcha I would not be the only one either.

I have a couple thousand on it cheez maybe my equipment wouldnt get gang signs painted on it as often.

 

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SpurHunter - 9/30/2009 3:44 PM



Besides, if you remove the 13,000 who is going to work in all the factories in Dalton?</p>

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Those would be called out of work Americans. </p>

Talk to an HR person, they can't find enough Americans to WORK.

 

[JSV]

HR my butt!</p>

HR can be a good thing but 90+% of the time they are hired to help cover the butts of the corporation they work for!!</p>

They say they are for the people but in reality they are for the ones which signs their pay check!</p>

They are here ILLEGAL.......................</p>

 

[Guest]

R14 - 9/30/2009 10:10 PM

SpurHunter - 9/30/2009 3:44 PM



Besides, if you remove the 13,000 who is going to work in all the factories in Dalton?</p>

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Those would be called out of work Americans. </p>

Talk to an HR person, they can't find enough Americans to WORK.

They can't find workers because the liberals are giving them their living and promising to give them more. emoBang

 

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cargotrailer - 10/1/2009 5:40 PM **CONTENT DELETED**....

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I am glad you think you have me figured out. Nothing could be farther from the truth. I hate no one. I do hate the actions of some people. I even love you cargotrailer when you are off base with this inflamatory post. You are like most of the other liberals. The best you can do is name call and cry "bad Bush" Much of what I have said about illegals was done in a joking manner. Since you apparantly are a liberal you do not have the capability to understand humor. Show me one post where I said anything WHATSOEVER about starving anybody or denying them healthcare. You cannot do it. Now I am totally against government run healthcare. They have never run anything efficiently and are not about to now. If someone has a genuine need I have no problem with helping them. As a matter of fact I seek out needy people on a regular basis to help them out. I simply refuse to help folks that will not help themselves when they are every bit as able as me.The bible tells us that if a man will not work he should not eat. It does not bother me in the least that you choose to call me names and make lying accusations. It only shows your own intellegence or lack thereof. Keep 'em coming my friend you are only proving my point. </p>

 

[SpurHunter]

Folks, once again, I must ask everyone to avoid personal attacks. If you cannot have a peacefull discussion, DO NOT COME IN THIS FORUM. How much simpler can we state this?

 

[Possum]

Wow, have not been to this thread. I try to keep God out of political discussions, but what would he want us to do? I owned a large farm on flattop Mtn. got a chance to be with some of these people you guys are talking about like they are a piece of meat. Some of the best genuine, and hardest working people you would ever be around. Maybe some of you might need to think about what you would do if in their situation. I know what I would do. It is funny how these people are now considered illeagals when they were the people who were in this country first. Something to think about.

 

[WLG]

R14 - 9/30/2009 3:35 PM

cheez - 9/29/2009 11:04 PM



Besides, if you remove the 13,000 who is going to work in all the factories in Dalton?

That is a rediculous question!! I think the majority of our political LEADERS have the same mentality!!

 

[Guest]

WLG, what is so ridiculous about it?

Do you want someone who shows up everyday and works hard and values their job, or do you want someone who will walk of the job site after a week or two and half the time while they are there they are trying to figure out ways not to do their job????

 

[timbo]

R14 - 10/2/2009 2:20 PM

WLG, what is so ridiculous about it?

Do you want someone who shows up everyday and works hard and values their job, or do you want someone who will walk of the job site after a week or two and half the time while they are there they are trying to figure out ways not to do their job????

As long as welfare is out there for those that don't want to work, you'll have illegal aliens in the workforce. Put a time limit on how long one can stay on welfare or have them PROVE that a) they are looking for work, or b) there is a legit reason that they can't work i.e disabled, etc. Also, make it mandatory that these welfare and food stamp recipients that aren't working do some sort of community service. They can have them out picking up trash on the side of the road, doing landscape work for public housing or buildings, etc. Let them know that free money is not free. You have to earn it. If these people had to work hard for that welfare check or food stamps, I would bet that over half of the welfare recipients would be out looking for those jobs the illegal aliens are working. Another idea, if you want a govenment contract, local or national, you'll be given a list of names of the local unemployed, and or welfare recipients. Out of that list, a small percentage of the workforce on that government job would have to be from that list. If they get fired and documentation shows a legit reason, then the welfare checks dry up also. Again, if they have to work HARD for the money they are receiving, they might decide to find a job that is easier to do. Either way, the unemployed would soon be employed and those sucking off the government would have to earn that welfare check instead sitting on their butts doing nothing.

 

[Guest]

timbo - 10/3/2009 6:10 AM

As long as welfare is out there for those that don't want to work, you'll have illegal aliens in the workforce. Put a time limit on how long one can stay on welfare or have them PROVE that a) they are looking for work, or b) there is a legit reason that they can't work i.e disabled, etc....

Timbo, the people I was talking about are not on welfare. As far as your a) and b) both are requirements for welfare. Here is a comparison/summary of TN welfare requirements and 8 other states, although it is a bit dated (2001): http://cber.utk.edu/TDHS/ffjul01.pdf

 

[WLG]

R14 - 10/2/2009 2:20 PM

WLG, what is so ridiculous about it?

Do you want someone who shows up everyday and works hard and values their job, or do you want someone who will walk of the job site after a week or two and half the time while they are there they are trying to figure out ways not to do their job????

So you are saying that you would rather have someone working in a job that takes the place of an a LEGAL hard working American? (There a lots of hard working..tax paying.honest..out of work Americans out there right now) To me to illegals are nothing but a leech sucking the life right out of all of us. I would not hire one if he was working for a dollar a day just because I know how much damage they do to ANY hard working american family!! Thats just me and what I call morals and patriotism. But if thats what everyone wants to do...hey go ahead...they are just driving down the pay that you will receive on any job you go to get in the future....if you can get that job at all!! Thats whats redicoulous about it IMO


And for the lazy..thugs who try to steal from the companies they work for...and that includes illegals as well as legals...let em f...... starve! I dont give a crap!!! I do not see that as my problem! There are alot of people out there that DO need a little help getting back on their feet and some who need permanent help....but there are so many that just want to mooch off the system that just need to get over it!! Im sick and tired of paying someones way who is just plain lazy and sorry!!!

 

[Guest]

WLG - 10/3/2009 8:49 AM]... LEGAL hard working American? ...

For the most part that is an OXYMORON

 

[EricM]

<font color="#3300ff">R14</font> - 10/3/2009 10:12 AM

WLG - 10/3/2009 8:49 AM]... LEGAL hard working American? ...

<font color="#3300ff">For the most part that is an OXYMORON</font>

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<font color="#ff0000">For the most part, <font size="4">R14</font> has just <font size="4">slapped the face</font> of most <font size="4">of us</font>.</font></p>

<font color="#ff0000">And I, for one, am willing to express my displeasure with it.</font></p>

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[WLG]

EricM - 10/3/2009 12:13 PM

<font color="#3300ff">R14</font> - 10/3/2009 10:12 AM

WLG - 10/3/2009 8:49 AM]... LEGAL hard working American? ...

<font color="#3300ff">For the most part that is an OXYMORON</font>

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<font color="#ff0000">For the most part, <font size="4">R14</font> has just <font size="4">slapped the face</font> of most <font size="4">of us</font>.</font></p>

<font color="#ff0000">And I, for one, am willing to express my displeasure with it.</font></p>

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I second that !!!!!!!

 

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EricM - 10/3/2009 12:13 PM

For the most part, <font size="4">R14</font> has just <font size="4">slapped the face</font> of most <font size="4">of us</font>.</font>[/b]</p>

And I, for one, am willing to express my displeasure with it.

Is the displeasure because you are one of the lazy one or is it because you think most are hard working? emoScratch If it is the later I would have to disagree with you.

Look for every hard working born-here (not native, cause the native americans are on reservations), I can find you 3 mediocre workers and 7 more slackers. Why should we deny non-born heres the American dream (you know hard work equals decent life for the worker's family).

Heck we are a country of immigrants, we all can trace our heritage back to some other place. Do I get more rights cause I can trace mine back to a Revolutionary War general, rather than only 3 or 4 generations ago?