Huge fish kill at Triton owners TX last week.

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I know some will want to jump on the bashing-TX-train, but Id love to have a civil discussion about this.
As you can read, there were dozens of dead 3-7 lb bass the day after the weigh-in, which appears to have taken over 4 hours per anglers that actually fished the TX. Even anglers that fished it are furious about this resulting dead-loss.
Is it time to do something about the tremendous bass fishery we have in TN? If so , its going to take dedicated TX fishermen to lead the charge and say enough is enough and come up with solutions, not anti-TX anglers ranting for change. What side are you on?

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Some excerpts from that thread:

David Stevens: I live on Lake Barkley and I am a semi Pro fisherman. This is an absolute disgrace to the sport of Bass Fishing. The weather hasn't been hot enough for this amount of fish to die. If this is the result of that tournament then someone needs to take a long hard look at allowing this to continue. Fish care should be the number 1 priority ! No question , handout G Juice, check live wells for proper operation and reduce the number of the tournament limit to 3 fish per team to reduce fish stress! As a Bass Fisherman I am ashamed to repost this but this kind of fish kill is unacceptable !

Tony Goff: I fished the tournament and was told personally that on day one, there was only one fish that was dead when it was weighed in. I don't know about day two. If you look at the standings, it might show the dead fish penalties for each team. I know my partner and I fished south of Paris on Saturday. We stopped 4 times in a 6 mile run, to check on our fish. I was and am, proud of the fact that our fish were in very good shape when we weighed them. As with everything in the outdoors, it starts with respect for the quarry, whether fishing or hunting. After seeing this, I'm not sure I want to fish this event next year.

James R Williams: Sorry guys. Im a tournament fisher myself and would defend it over anything and give anyone the benefit of the doubt to protect this great sport. But i guess there is just no defending this one. Sure you will always have a few fish die. But a 400 boat tournament? ? Lots of good ideas should have been used that could have saved a lot of those fish. Starting with several weigh in spots. Not sure if thats the best answer but a start. Several good suggestions in this article.

Bobby Kilzer: I realize how terrible this looks but considering the amount of fish caught these are not a drop in the bucket. These fish have floated up along the highway 79 Bridge right outside of Paris Landing. There is a deep channel leading out to the river along it. Most if the fish are released along thus channel so the release boats can get back in. The last 2 days there has been a north wind which would have pushed any fish that died up against the road.
If this tournament was held in the fall there would not be near the mortality rate because nowhere near this many fish would be caught.
If I am not mistaken ABA was in charge of the weighin. What should be done in a tournament this size at this time of year is someone from the organization needs to stay over for a couple days and pick up the inevitable dead carcasses.
Henry County pours alot of money into these organizations to get the tournaments to come here. The volunteers work hard trying to park boats, shuttling anglers and many other things. Maybe they could look into having a cleanup crew a couple days after a big tournament.
I don't have a dog in the race anymore. I am just a crappie guy.

John Hall: I fished this tourney and it is run very well. They have two release boats and holding tanks, they fizz the fish, limited weigh in bags, etc, etc,
The sheer number of boats your gonna get some of this. It was brutal conditions on Saturday and those that fished south took a beating
on the ride home. I'd say most of these fish got beat to death in the live wells on their ride home.....

Bryan Bullington: Our fish was alive and well till the 1 hr 20 min Lake Michigan ride back. Stop 8 times to put water in livewell. I think the rough river had more to do with it than the weigh in. 180 boats didnt even weigh in on Sat. Its still sad though, the fish in bad shape could have been cleaned and given to the needy.

Kade Smith: I fished the tournament and weighed in fish both days. from the time my fish left my live well til they were in one of the 2 release boats was maybe 15-20 min. Triton and the ABA had 3 large holding tanks in the weigh in line that were treated with G juice, aireated and iced. there were trained staff on the release boats fizzing fish. they only have 25 or so weigh bags to keep lines and wait times down. there were carts full of bags of ice at the dock to cool live wells down if there was a long line waiting for weigh bags. it was without a doubt the roughest water I have ever been in. not an excuse for this many fish to be dead but I can guarantee you that you will not find a better run tournament in the country. as for a solution to the problem, I don't have one. sure you could have a pic and release tournament if every angler was honest but that's not going to happen with that much prize money on the line.
 

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This woman posted several pics on that thread, and here is her quote:
Amanda McCabe I counted 43 dead bass lying on the bank yesterday.
 
As an avid tx guy my position may surprise some. I think any and all txs held on public waters should require an annual permit issued by twra or usfws. In order to obtain a permit a tx must have some type fish care tanks as well as release-aids like oxygenated tanks etc. the permit should not cheap and the money should go directly to the state and federal hatcheries....if you own a $50k triton, surely you can take the time to learn how to keep your catch alive...head shaking
 
churly - 6/2/2015 2:40 PMAs an avid tx guy my position may surprise some. I think any and all txs held on public waters should require an annual permit issued by twra or usfws. In order to obtain a permit a tx must have some type fish care tanks as well as release-aids like oxygenated tanks etc. the permit should not cheap and the money should go directly to the state and federal hatcheries....if you own a $50k triton, surely you can take the time to learn how to keep your catch alive...head shaking
I feel the same way Justin ! Would love to see some sort of permit system put in place to weed out a bunch of the tournaments.
 
What is really sickening is imagine how many sunk to the bottom and die after improper fizzing. From my experience 1 out of 5 people I've seen fizz fish do it properly. Most release all the air and the fish sinks to the bottom and dies, I'm illing to bet there were 3 times as many dead on the bottom that became turtle food that night.
 
FLW and BASS events take super care of their fish, infact they have individuals that are soley responsible for fish care. Their fish are placed in O2 enriched tanks and they usually carry the fish out to open water to be released. Its the "once a year" benifit and special tourneys as well as the puppy tumbles that do most of the damage.
 
After reading so much about this over the last few years, I have no doubt that delayed mortality is the biggest culprit in this particular fish kill and that as stated there was probably twice that many at a minimum, that sank to the bottom and died. This whole crap about "my fish swim away strong" so I know all of my fish lived really boggles my brain
 
Spur, I'm going to be civil and just not comment about the insane number of bass tournaments on our waters. Not just the weekends, but every freaking night of the week. But, I'm a crappie fisherman now, but I used to bass fish tournaments back in the day.

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Sounds like the tournament was well ran to me. They had a staff to take care of the fish, holding tanks, and a couple release boats. A few are reporting that the river was incredibly rough on their way to weigh in that day. Sounds like fish banging their heads hard against the walls of livewells could have something to do with the kill.
 
I would agree with a permit system, but the stance if "any and all tourneys" is asinine. Maybe for the organized TX and the weekly club guys. But for church member tx (where there is normally never more than 10 boats no matter the size of the church) or local charity tx that focus 100% of the money towards the needy, which are rarely ever more than a few boats, should never be under some permit system. Most of these instances are not tourney fisherman anyways, just a way to fellowship and just hang out with friends and have fun competition. Is saying "any and all" you restrict these gatherings to be permitted. However, I think the permit system could work for clubs and other organized tx. And DK is right about the sheer number. Every single night there is a tx somewhere, and who knows who is running some of those. I don't know where I stand because tournaments are what fishing is about to the hard-core guys. As for most of us, it's just about being on the water, but for them it's is there reason. So I don't know. TX have been around forever. But this type of fish kill is absurd, no matter the situation. I know alot of families that could use this fish to feed their kids,seriously. Maybe I should sit in or volunteer some tx to gather the dead fish and fillet them for some needy people so the fish aren't wasted. Intersting topic...
 
troutfly - 6/3/2015 1:39 AM
Most of these instances are not tourney fisherman anyways, just a way to fellowship and just hang out with friends and have fun competition. Is saying "any and all" you restrict these gatherings to be permitted.

If they're not serious about it, why haul a mess of fish around all day in the first place? Score by length, photo on a board with a card. Immediately release the fish. Done.
 
The facts are that the ABA crew did a great job handling the fish in that tournament last week. They only give out 25 bags at a time to keep from having too many people standing in line with fish in their bags. They also use the Shimano release boat to care for and return the fish back to the lake. The weather conditions and lake conditions were unusually rough with 4-5 ft. rollers from Jville to the dam and I'm sure that contributed to some of the dead fish. Over 1,880 fish were released over 2 days and they only found 43 dead fish. That's only a little over 2% of the total number released and that is excellent for the conditions.
 
This is surely not a Triton Tournament Owners (tournament directors) problem you think?

The tournament directors do all the right things at the weigh-in to insure the best possible live release outcome. They know that most of the tournament fish will need extra ordinary care after that 7-8 hour suffocating boat ride in hundreds of bass boats in livewells with lo-oxygen saturations… less than the best fish care possible in bass boat livewells all day.

The directors will provide plenty of pure compressed oxygen in those green oxygen tanks immediately when the fish arrive in the afternoon because they know the fish have been deprived of oxygen in bass boat livewell all day and are dying oxygen upon arrival.
Those fish will surely get emergency oxygen care for at least 30 minutes from weigh-in through the boat ride to the release site. The release boats will also have plenty of compressed oxygen for the 10 minute boat ride.

It is most important that the media and the public see all this “super fish care” the best fish care possible which demonstrated how much the tournament directors care about the catch. What the public and media does not see or hear about or understand is that the anglers choose not to provide oxygen or this much fish care for their catch for the 7-8 hour boat ride when the fish are in their control and possession… where the fish have been chronically suffocated and deprived of safe amounts of oxygen all day causing the most severe type of fish stress, hypoxia, excessive sustained cortisol production, sustained anaerobic metabolism, irreversible brain damage and cellular damage often resulting and seen with high post summer tournament mortality and morbidity.

The public also sees all the dead fish wash up after the summer tournament and wonder what caused this, this is so sad, so bad; why did all these fish die after the tournament? The public cry’s out summer after summer, ”somebody should do something about these bass tournament fish kills.”

That “somebody: the culprit causing the predictable summer mortality problem every summer they are talking about is the fisherman, the contestant.

That is the root of the summer tournament mortality issue. The culprit causing this issue is the angler, the tournament directors usually provide oxygen and chose to provide the best fish care possible when they take possession of the catch – but all that great fish care is hours too late to save the fish.
Those fisherman that chose not to provide the best fish care possible in his bass boat livewell for that 7-8 hour boat ride and he chronically deprived his catch of minimal safe dissolved oxygen. Every tournament fisherman choses how much bass care he is willing to provide for his catch,

Take a closer look at the “functional livewell rule,” all bass tournaments have this rule. The rule sound good doesn’t it.

The “functional livewell rule” is such a meaningless rule that mask the real cause of the summer tournament kill problem yet no one ever questions this rule or understands what these words really mean.

These words define a “functional livewell” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livewell

A functional livewell must have safe water quality for the duration of the transport when it contains a maximum load of fish (not when it is empty and contains no fish), when there is not enough oxygen. Without enough oxygen, suffocation is imminent and guaranteed. Slow 7-8 hour suffocation is a terrible way to die even for an animal, a fish caught in a fishing tournament.

The BassMaster Classic tournament directors and biologist know about high summer mortality and hot summer environmental water, they addressed the PR problem and they solved this problem. They never have public relations problems with summer tournament bass kills… they simply changed the date of the Classic to February, the coldest time of the winter. This top-of-the-line bass fishing tournament does not have summer mortality any more. The fixed the problem and the bad PR
 
I heard 3800 fish were weighed in or some number along those lines.. 43 dead fish is a little over 1% mortality rate if my math is correct..

yes there is something that could have been done to reduce that number..

yes there are probably more laying on the bottom, but its getting blown out of proportion!!!

And yes "puppy tumbles" are getting out of control every night of the week lol

Check out Jason Sealock's post on Wired2Fish, might help the conversation a little
 

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