Huge fish kill at Triton owners TX last week.

[SpurHunter]

Blake423 - 6/3/2015 10:00 AM

I heard 3800 fish were weighed in or some number along those lines.. 43 dead fish is a little over 1% mortality rate if my math is correct..

yes there is something that could have been done to reduce that number..

yes there are probably more laying on the bottom, but its getting blown out of proportion!!!

And yes "puppy tumbles" are getting out of control every night of the week lol

Check out Jason Sealock's post on Wired2Fish, might help the conversation a little

It was 1900 fish weighed in I think I heard.

 

[SpurHunter]

SpurHunter - 6/3/2015 10:37 AM

Blake423 - 6/3/2015 10:00 AM

I heard 3800 fish were weighed in or some number along those lines.. 43 dead fish is a little over 1% mortality rate if my math is correct..

yes there is something that could have been done to reduce that number..

yes there are probably more laying on the bottom, but its getting blown out of proportion!!!

And yes "puppy tumbles" are getting out of control every night of the week lol

Check out Jason Sealock's post on Wired2Fish, might help the conversation a little

It was 1900 fish weighed in I think I heard.

"The nearly 400-boat Triton Owners Tournament took place last Friday and Saturday and 1,924 bass were weighed in with 1,881 released alive, according to the official standings posted on the website of American Bass Anglers (ABA), which has assisted Triton in operating the owners event for the past 16 years."

 

[Carl]

We should do everything possible to keep as many bass alive as possible, but some are going to die during tournaments. We need to keep it in perspective. Ky Lake has millions of bass in it. If tournament fishing kills 1 thousand a week, the overall population is not going to be affected. TWRA has done a pretty good job so far managing the populations on the TN river system. Stories like the ones posted above, are why Northern states have a bass season, and some states limit tournaments to 20 boats. The story would not have ever happened if the Tournament directors would have went out and collected the floaters.

 

[troutfly]

gaspergou - 6/3/2015 6:41 AM

troutfly - 6/3/2015 1:39 AM
Most of these instances are not tourney fisherman anyways, just a way to fellowship and just hang out with friends and have fun competition. Is saying "any and all" you restrict these gatherings to be permitted.

If they're not serious about it, why haul a mess of fish around all day in the first place? Score by length, photo on a board with a card. Immediately release the fish. Done.


MK

No. That's not the case I am talking about. Every church tx or charity tx I've ever fished did the major league type system all the way back to 15 or more years ago, for the most part. I have fished some that had an official weigh in, but it is nothing like the competitive tx were discussing. It's guys who just fish when health or time permits. These guys don't have the electronics prevalent and most have bass trackers or flat bottoms I'm for the permit, but you can't charge a person who might fish a total of 1 to 5 times a year, and maybe 1 tx every few years, unless they made it law that any tx had to be an organization and must be monitored. Then I could understand and any church /charity that wants tx should comply and pay whatever annual fee needed.

 

[troutfly]

SpurHunter - 6/3/2015 9:37 AM

SpurHunter - 6/3/2015 10:37 AM

Blake423 - 6/3/2015 10:00 AM

I heard 3800 fish were weighed in or some number along those lines.. 43 dead fish is a little over 1% mortality rate if my math is correct..

yes there is something that could have been done to reduce that number..

yes there are probably more laying on the bottom, but its getting blown out of proportion!!!

And yes "puppy tumbles" are getting out of control every night of the week lol

Check out Jason Sealock's post on Wired2Fish, might help the conversation a little

It was 1900 fish weighed in I think I heard.

"The nearly 400-boat Triton Owners Tournament took place last Friday and Saturday and 1,924 bass were weighed in with 1,881 released alive, according to the official standings posted on the website of American Bass Anglers (ABA), which has assisted Triton in operating the owners event for the past 16 years."

unless I'm mistaken, roughly 20% died?

 

[jenko157]

Trout Fly, My calculator shows 2.2%

 

[BassmanIU]

CPR - catch, photo, release

It's what ALL kayak tournaments practice and would decrease mortality rate significantly. Get those fish back in the water where they belong.

 

[Blake423]

Kayaks don't really have a great aeration system or aerator at all so its somewhat irrelevant... Not downing kayak fisherman but its a totally different circumstance..

And yeah my bad on the stats, it would be around 2%!

And the most fun is the weigh-in... so the CPR method wouldn't suffice in my opinion...

 

[troutfly]

jenko157 - 6/3/2015 10:02 AM

Trout Fly, My calculator shows 2.2%

thank you. I was thinking 1900 bass caught and 400 dead. I miss read. 2.2% isn't terrible really. I'd like to see it lower, but if they used the fish for the needy, that would be better. But 1%-2% isn't the worst thing.

 

[SpurHunter]

Carl - 6/3/2015 10:44 AM

We should do everything possible to keep as many bass alive as possible, but some are going to die during tournaments. We need to keep it in perspective. Ky Lake has millions of bass in it. If tournament fishing kills 1 thousand a week, the overall population is not going to be affected. TWRA has done a pretty good job so far managing the populations on the TN river system. Stories like the ones posted above, are why Northern states have a bass season, and some states limit tournaments to 20 boats. The story would not have ever happened if the Tournament directors would have went out and collected the floaters.

To be clear, you're saying if they hid the evidence, it wouldn't really be an issue? Does anyone else think that killing 1000 bass per week in TX's is justifiable, but bank beaters eating them on purpose isn't? (I realize YOU didn't say that on this post, but its been mentioned many times).

I'm thinking we need more solutions than that, in fact, I don't think that's a solution at all.

 

[Carl]

No not at all, and the bank beaters have every right to their 5 bass a day, and I dont think they are harming the population. TWRA has a good grasp on the number of bass dieing each year either by tournaments or the frying pan. Bass are a resource and seems to be a very stable population on Kentucky Lake.

 

[SpurHunter]

Ive never stepped foot on that lake, so Ill take your word for it.

 

[jpbass]

1,884 is what the count was. That's straight from the ABA Director.

 

[Tony M]

Actually the reality is that it would not matter if all the tournament fish were killed, the total kill would not negatively affect the fishery.... it's only a PR exercise, but you can bet your last dollar that every time a few fish float and wash up on the banks that tournament public relations will be negatively affected and negative public relations impacts the whole shooting match.

Ray Scott recognized this quickly and saw how dead fish negatively affect his "Bubba" image. It's the C&R image that's important. Google the history of catch and release bass tournament fishing, check it out.

 

[troutfly]

To lighten it up a second...I need some Foley spoons. Anyone know where I can get some? ;

 

[SpurHunter]

LOL. Ive heard of a guy....

 

[troutfly]

Ok, I won't change the subject anymore, but I'm going to message you in a few days and stock up.

 

[jpbass]

I'm kind of skeptical of the picture because its shows the water being low and it was actually about a foot high last week. I'm sure anyone who fished the tournament would agree that Triton and ABA go above and beyond on their fish care practices.

 

[SpurHunter]

jpbass - 6/4/2015 8:16 AM

I'm kind of skeptical of the picture because its shows the water being low and it was actually about a foot high last week. I'm sure anyone who fished the tournament would agree that Triton and ABA go above and beyond on their fish care practices.

These pictures, and several others attributed to the TX kill have been confirmed by multiple people, including a director of the TX.

 

[jpbass]

You can tell most of the negative comments were from people who were not at the tournament with no information about the tournament or the fish handling process. TWRA was present and were even on the release boat. So if they were not concerned with the condition of the fish then obviously it was not anything ABA or Triton could control. Besides, a 2.2% mortality rate is very low in most people's judgment for a post spawn event not even taking into account the water being so rough. Most fishermen around here have never seen conditions that bad.