quick trip for when and why 1/14/2007

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If we every figure this out.  I guess we will have to start examining a fish tail before we can post a fish tale.  
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<span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Just for your info When ... in the few playful moments of discovery .. which I'm hoping you'll excuse us for, it was an actual legitimate question.  To which, I think I've found the answer to.

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<span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">A paper written by a gentleman in </span><state><place><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Illinois</span></place></state><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> from Fisheries and </span><place><placename><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Illinois</span></placename><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> </span><placename><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Aquaculture</span></placename><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> </span><placetype><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Center</span></placetype></place><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> and written for </span><place><placename><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">North</span></placename><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> </span><placename><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Central</span></placename><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> </span><placename><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Regional</span></placename><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> </span><placename><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Aquaculture</span></placename><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> </span><placetype><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Center</span></placetype></place><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">, states this about Fat Albert's proposition:

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<span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">"Attempts have been made to  <span style="BACKGROUND: #99ff99; COLOR: black">sex</span> adult largemouth <span style="BACKGROUND: #a0ffff; COLOR: black">bass</span> by looking at the shape of the scaleless area around the urogenital opening. The scaleless area tends to be  more or less circular in males and more elliptical in females. This method frequently leads to misidentification of <span style="BACKGROUND: #99ff99; COLOR: black">sex</span>.  Sexing of brood fish can be done in the spring prior to spawning when the female has a distended abdomen, and a red swollen protruding vent. The males may be emitting milt. The most accurate way to <span style="BACKGROUND: #99ff99; COLOR: black">sex</span> largemouth <span style="BACKGROUND: #a0ffff; COLOR: black">bass</span> is to insert a small tube into the vent and look for eggs or milt."

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<span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">If you want to read the whole article, written in 2000, here's the link.

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<span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">http://ag.ansc.purdue.edu/aquanic/ncrac/wpapers/lgmouthbass32900.pdf

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<span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Although they were talking about Largemouths, I'm thinking its pretty much applicable to the entire category of fish.

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<span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">:)  Learn something new every day ...

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<span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">TT

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<font color="#6600ff">wasn't trying to be ugly or nothing like that...I believe I read this some years ago in Field and Stream... and the article was written by Homer Circle.  He even had pictures for show and tell... FA   sorry about the thread being highjacked.....just trying to help out the blonde (TT)</font> </p>

Thanks, TT,  see,, I knew ain't gone crazy just yet....</p>
 
Fat Albert - 1/16/2007 2:22 PM <font color="#6600ff">wasn't trying to be ugly or nothing like that...I believe I read this some years ago in Field and Stream... and the article was written by Homer Circle.  He even had pictures for show and tell... FA   sorry about the thread being highjacked.....just trying to help out the blonde (TT)</font>
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Fat Albert ... no need to apologize you were neither ugly or nothing like it.  The thread wasn't highjacked either.  A natural progession of information transpired with a few regressive moments in between the fact and the matter.  That happens sometimes.  :)</p>

And thanks for helping me out FA ... that caused me to read an article that was pretty interesting.  I've printed it for further ponderence.  </p>

It is still a GREAT fish WHEN ... no matter if it was a he or a she!</p>

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I was just teasing anyway. I don't care if any of my threads get hijacked. TT hijacks most of them anyway with her rants and raves about the secret hole or whatever.

And since I caught the fish, I say it was a GURL because SHE was MEAN, did not want to cooperate, would not LISTEN, tried to run away, and had a big MOUTH....but she sure was PURTY.
 
whenwegoin - 1/16/2007 2:08 PM Leave it up to my thread to get hijacked by a bunch of butt holes.
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Excuse me mister .. Besides it wasn't hi-jacked by butt holes it was hijacked for a butt hole discussion!  
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But thanks for providing the foundation for our flurry of fanny talk.  If it wasn't for your fish, it probably wouldn't have happened.  Your contributions always seem to bring out the best discussions! </p>

BB found something of your's, she believes, at secret hole #1.  I've asked her to save it for me so I can have my voodoo moments this spring if you don't invited me to the secret hole!  
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whenwegoin - 1/16/2007 2:59 PM I was just teasing anyway. I don't care if any of my threads get hijacked. TT hijacks most of them anyway with her rants and raves about the secret hole or whatever. And since I caught the fish, I say it was a GURL because SHE was MEAN, did not want to cooperate, would not LISTEN, tried to run away, and had a big MOUTH....but she sure was PURTY.
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And you want more just like her don't cha When??? </p>

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LOL... now this is really getting bad!!!!! Secret holes!! Butt holes!!! Distended abdomens!! Protruding vents!!!! High jacked threads!!!! When!!! Now look at what'cha done!!!!! ;) I am really glad I have a private office or I would be getting the same funny looks Wormie is getting
 
Now I wished I would have looked at "her" b-hole, so I would have made sure she was a girl.

Maybe Why looked at her, after all everytime we go fishing he spends a lot of time looking at a b-hole in the back seat of his boat!!!! Right TT?????
 
Well I wasn't going to mention that When.  Being my New Year's Resolution was to be kinder and gentler in 2007.  BUT ...  no one keeps those darn things anyway do they????  And I'm sure by NOW lots of NYR's have been broken and all but forgotten.  So I suppose I shouldn't feel so bad if I decide to break mine and go with your general statement, endorsing the fact that yes .. there are butt o's among us. 
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Sad but T Rue fact that no one escapes this life without at least knowing one really well.  Your sign carrying BH days could come to quick and forever end IF and ONLY IF .. you would take me to the Secret Hole so I can catch a banner fish.  Secret Hole: not to be confused with .. well .. enough said.</p>

Why has  my sympathy however.</p>

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Don't think I haven't noticed you and Why with your little side bar thing going on about some boat pictures or something.

It's really going to happen this year. The famous trip to the secret hole. I also noticed you saying the biggest fish you've ever caught was about 3 lbs or so....so I'm taking this as a project... as a challenge....you will have your chance.....I'm pretty sure.....I want to be a part of you catching your personal best.......I've seen it many times.....it will be a REAL accomplishment to see you catch a big one....uh...wait....I'm not saying you are not a good fisherperson or anything.....I just think it would be good for you.....CFF.....the picnic.....to expand your fishing knowledge......to know how a monster bass fights......we might even take a look at it's......well...I don't know about THAT.....the trips will begin soon.....scouting trips of course...with just Why and myself....making sure they are there again this year......
 
Actually WHEN if you will think back on a couple of spots we have fished over the past few years we could have named them "secret buttholes".

I have to be honest, the first thing that ran through my mind when that smallmouth jumped was, "Lord a Mercy, did you see the butthole on that fish".

WHEN, you know how we noticed it changing colors? Did its butthole change colors too, maybe it had a case of the red arse.

TT, looks like he is on to us. Guess we can take him with us.
 
This thread is a hoot! I think that it's a great idea for you all to take TT to the secret hole and see if she can tangle with a big fattie mamma girl bass. I would expect that she would note the eliptical anatomy if she gets her to the boat.
 
Ya'll just wait until the next time WHY or myself catches another good one and see what pictures we post.

Which reminds me, TT first rule about you coming to the secret hole is you are not allowed to bring your camera OR take a picture. You'll have to leave the shooting to me or WHY. Sometimes we have to be real picky about camera angles and backgrounds. Secondly, it will forever be known as the secret hole, I don't care what you see, how you get there, who you may talk to, how you fish it, and oh, three, they bite nothing but corn dogs.
 
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