Sad Day For The Armed Forces

[Sniperchoke]

Its not that they serve it is now they serve openly which can only confuse a situation in combat. I only care about the other soldiers that will have to deal with this new distraction. What about their freedom to say what they want. Now regular soldiers can ruin their Military career with a mispoken word. The policy was not broken it did not need to be fixed. We will lose good soldiers because some homosexual will be offended by a comment. What will be the policy if a gay soldier comes on to a straight soldier? Will that be tolerated? What if the Straight soldier retaliates? The Liberals are opening a can of worms that they can't comprehend. All in the name of a few votes.

 

[Guest]

outcaster - 12/22/2010 6:48 PM

. Now I remember why I don't go to Church!

People like you are always looking for the excuse. If no one gives you one you will make up an excuse.

Excuse= skin of a reason stuffed with a lie.

Nobody here has said they hated anybody. We just hate the way a sick perverted lifestyle is being shoved upon us. We hate that politicians are giving them special treatment. We hate the sin but love and pray for the lost sinners. Just like you Danny.

 

[on fish]

Way to say it Cheez!! I usually don't comment on this forum but your right!! Always excuses

 

[tie1on]

The new policy is going to be called "Ask and Tell".

There have always been gay people in society. There have always been gays in the military. Thats just a fact. But I don't understand why gays are catigorized as a minority group. It is a sexual preference. Just like a straight man likes women. Lets say that I had a preference for women that are amputees. Should I be treated as a minority and get special recognition too? That would be a sexual preference would it not?

If you are in the military, there is a large chance that you are going to serve with gays. No matter what lifestyle they have chosen (thats between them and God) they at least deserve our respect for serving. Even though I dont agree with their lifestyle. The main problem now is the so called "Hate Crime" cases are going to go through the roof. Just another black eye for our military.

Our military is under attack and its not coming from overseas!

 

[Hook1]

outcaster - 12/22/2010 6:48 PM

It's amazing..... these homosexual men and women are willing to shed their blood and even die to defend the "rights" of idiots like some of you! You really should just say "thank you" for serving our Nation. You ought to be ashamed of yourselves, that you have allowed your minds to become so small. Now I remember why I don't go to Church!

emoTskTsk You almost got a thread hijacked emo on this one. This isn't about the Church its about our Freedom Fighters! How am I supposed to feel safe going in a mission when the guy whos supposed to cover my back is constantly staring at my butt? Seriously now homosexuality is sin and it is wrong! This is what destroyed Sodam and Gemorah (spelling?) God gave us laws before our country and others started bending them and we have to follow them or else. If a man wants to marry another man I don't agree but he has the right now days. Those two men can even adopt children emoVomit but I will NEVER see it as right and accept it.

 

[oggism]

Everyone's right

 

[Oldman]

it sickens me that gays have any rights.(period)i have a good idea what should be done with all of them.old school here,not this younger thinking crap.if this was right god would have said adam and adam.

 

[oggism]

old man101 - 12/23/2010 8:40 AM

it sickens me that gays have any rights.(period)i have a good idea what should be done with all of them.old school here,not this younger thinking crap.if this was right god would have said adam and adam.

 

[outcaster]

buzz - 12/22/2010 8:16 PM

Nope......some of my best friends are black.You lose on that one. THIS QUEER just happened to be black. If he was a WHITE QUEER...I would have felt the same.

Nice backtracking. You must have took lessons from cheez. You can't use that "some of my best friends are black" crap with me. If race really didn't matter to you..... you would not have bothered to mention the color of the skin of the little fag in your foxhole. Try again.... never mind, don't bother. You have made yourself quite clear.

 

[outcaster]

cheez - 12/22/2010 9:07 PM

outcaster - 12/22/2010 6:48 PM

. Now I remember why I don't go to Church!

People like you are always looking for the excuse. If no one gives you one you will make up an excuse.

Excuse= skin of a reason stuffed with a lie.

Nobody here has said they hated anybody. We just hate the way a sick perverted lifestyle is being shoved upon us. We hate that politicians are giving them special treatment. We hate the sin but love and pray for the lost sinners. Just like you Danny.

Please, Please, Please, Please, Please, I beg you, don't "pray" for me. Church is too full of people with closed minds and hate in their hearts. Sad thing is...most don't even realize it, "just like you cheez". This so-called "hate the sin, but not the sinner" crap, is just that, crap, or an "excuse". Being "GAY" is who they are to the core of their being, not just the way they have sex. My Grandpa gave me a good piece of advice when I was a kid. "Beware of the ones shouting, preaching and screaming loudest against something, because they are doing it themselves" Rev. Ted Haggard, and Rev. George Alan "Rectum" Rekers come to mind.

 

[buzz]

NOT BACKTRACKING..for you or anybody else. 35 years working side by side with many blacks. GREAT FRIENDS. As far as the wanna be gang bangers..those that have their hand out for the freebies..from the LIBERALS...er...I mean Democrates...screw em.
Heres you another war story...Ft. Benning, Ga. June 1968. Two guys claimed to be gay...wanted out of the service...guess that little "conflict" in South east Asia had something to do with it. Anyway..they were put into a day room at the company headquarters until they were processed out. At night...you could hear their screams from the beatings from the NCO's. That went on for two or three nights. Finally a man named Battle, got up, got a entrenching tool, we ask...what are you doing? He said he was going to put a stop to the beatings. Several of us joined him...and went to the day room...and put a stop to the beatings. The beatings stopped...The Inspector General was called and these guys were moved from our company. I suppose that got out?

 

[SpurHunter]

Nice Christmas spirit all you guys have.

 

[buzz]

Delete the Thread...spur. Fine with me.

 

[Guest]

outcaster - 12/23/2010 8:22 AM

cheez - 12/22/2010 9:07 PM

outcaster - 12/22/2010 6:48 PM

. Now I remember why I don't go to Church!

People like you are always looking for the excuse. If no one gives you one you will make up an excuse.

Excuse= skin of a reason stuffed with a lie.

Nobody here has said they hated anybody. We just hate the way a sick perverted lifestyle is being shoved upon us. We hate that politicians are giving them special treatment. We hate the sin but love and pray for the lost sinners. Just like you Danny.

Please, Please, Please, Please, Please, I beg you, don't "pray" for me. Church is too full of people with closed minds and hate in their hearts. Sad thing is...most don't even realize it, "just like you cheez". This so-called "hate the sin, but not the sinner" crap, is just that, crap, or an "excuse". Being "GAY" is who they are to the core of their being, not just the way they have sex. My Grandpa gave me a good piece of advice when I was a kid. "Beware of the ones shouting, preaching and screaming loudest against something, because they are doing it themselves" Rev. Ted Haggard, and Rev. George Alan "Rectum" Rekers come to mind.

Being a homosexual is a choice. The lie about they cannot help it is just that. It was constructed so as to get liberal politicians to make special laws to protect them. The lie was fabricated to draw ignorant people into feeling sorry for homos because they cannot help it. It is a lie straight from the pit of hell. Originated by satan himself who is the master of deception. The vast majority of psychologists contend that homosexuality is a learned behaviour. Just like alchoholism or any other destructive behaviour. Thousands of homos have been delivered from the sin when they gave their life to Christ.

There is no hate in my heart for any human being. Never has been and there never will be. I hate sin and the devil and his demons and I hate what sin does to people. Plain and simple. Calling a sin a sin is not hate for that person. I will continue to pray for you and others who do not know the power of the Holy Spirit. The power that transforms lives and sets people free from the bonds of the great deciever.

Merry Christmas

 

[outcaster]

cheez, I doubt you have never known someone who is gay. For them it's NOT a choice. It's the way they are pre-wired. You need to meet "Stewart", a 14 year old kid that lives down the street from us. We have known he was "gay" from the time he was 8 years old, before the idea of "sex" ever entered his mind. He didn't ride 4 wheelers, and dirt bikes, play sports, or shoot BB guns, or roughhouse like my boys do. Instead he would rather help re-decorate my daughter's room. He actually spends a lot of time with our family, because we don't judge him. He is now in high school and having a difficult time.... because he is different. What he certainly does not need is people LIKE YOU telling him that what he feels makes him disgusting, and heads him straight for hell. Better yet, instead of meeting Stewart, I can introduce you to his USMC ret father who would just love to hear all about you thoughts on the subject and how they may apply to his son.

 

[Guest]

Well Danny this poor boy can be changed by the power of Christ. I have known many homosexuals. I have been instrumental in converting 3 of them to the truth. One has lived a normal life for several years now. If I had to speculate this Stewart boy was raised by women and he probably knows no other way. He can be changed if he wants to. It is a learned behaviour as well as a choice.

 

[outcaster]

You really just don't get it. It's got absolutely nothing to do with how they are raised. "Stewart" is being raised by two loving parents, with the father being a big tough ex Marine. There are people that "try the other side", or "switch hit", again, Rev Ted Haggard, the the Rev George Alan "rectum" Rekers come to mind. Maybe some of them can be cured from the "gayness". If they CAN be so-called cured.... they really were not "gay" in the first place. Being "Gay" is not always just about who you have sex with. It's a pretty simple test.... if you can be cured.... you're not gay. If no amount of ridicule, condemnation, or discrimination can change you..... then you're gay. People don't "choose" to be ridiculed, discriminated against, or be told that the reason soldiers die in Iraq is because of them.

 

[SpurHunter]

The "choice" issue will go on for centuries.

I have seen your beliefs about God, and religion, so taking that into consideration, I will pose a question Danny.
Why am I fat? I wonder if it's because my body tells me eat all I can, as was pre-wired into my DNA from the earliest humans right? Humans, like all mamals didn't always know when they would get a meal, and so they ate all they could find to account for leaner times. This wasn't a choice, it was wired into them. Fast-forward to today, I will never starve, even if I live on the street some day, I can find food some way. So folks like yourself that are not overweight have made a choice not to eat in excess. Even though its programed into you......how is this possible?

Lets talk manogomy, arguments have been made that humans are not truly capable of this, yet it does happen to some people making a choice and sticking with it for 40+ years. How is this possible?

I dont know the answers to all these questions, but I can certainly have my opinion as well. I do know one thing for absolute certain, God or religion aside, homosexuality is not natural. Reprouduction canno't occur through it naturaly. Even for an agnostic, this fact remains no matter what. Nature, or for those that do believe in God, humans are designed to reproduce.

Playing devils advocate here, where does the argument over sexual choice stop? Most pedophiles claim they cannot stop it, some rapists claim the same thing. How about those that engage in bestiality, Should all those be legal and accepted in society?

 

[Guest]

Right now Stewart is just a mixed up kid with learned feminine tendencies. His behaviour will not become sinful and disgusting until or unless he takes it to the sexual level with the help of "non judgemental" people
his parents live him I am sure but if the truth be told his Marine father was not around during the boys early childhood.
Homosexuality is an in natural act. No matter how you or the SanFransisco crowd spin it. They are not born nor are they wired that way. Nowhere in nature us the act found but in human beings.

 

[SpurHunter]

I will address one other thing Danny. I don't think I have ever offended you over your choice of religion, or at least I hope I haven't. I do want to say, "Your Right". There are heathens, adulterer's, liars, hypocrites, drug addicts, homosexuals and every kind of sinners at every church I have ever been to.

If you are under the impression that I or you should go to church, or not got to church because of the people in the same building as you, you are seriously missing the point. I go because of my beliefs in God, the people I choose to attend with are by choice because I enjoy their company and their style of worship, not because I think they are perfect or not without one of the faults I mentioned.