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So now Gayness is like being a rapist or a pedophile? I'll just assume that you really didn't mean that. I would expect something like that from cheez, but not from you. No one is being harmed by the "gayness" People can't change who they really are. They can cover it up for a while, or deny it, but it's always there. Since "gay" behavior harms no one but instead makes you a little uncomfortable, and breaks the rules of your religion, why do you want to see them discriminated against, and ridiculed? Why do you always confuse "different" with "wrong"? Save me the religious BS.
 
Gay behaviour as you call it does not harm anyone. That is very true. It is when that behaviour escalates to physical sexual level that the harm is done. Unrepentant homosexuals are doomed to an eternal hell. Say nothing about the miriad of diseases not the least of which is AIDS.
 
outcaster it is not about race,color or sexual orientation, or age its about what God says is right and what he says is wrong, having sex with the same sex is wrong"sin", but telling a lie, stealing, cheating, murder, having other gods is also a sin. we as humans tend to put sin in different categories. But the point is not what we think is right or wrong but what God says is a sin, But no one can reveal this to you but by the holy spirit. If you were born again believer you would understand what Christians believe and practice, no by far we are not perfect but one day we will be, an one day all those that question God will have a chance at the white throne judgement, where you may state your purpose in life and give account, but unless you have your name written in the lambs book of life it will do you no good to state your purpose. But one thing is certain you will tell him "before judgement is passed on you" that Jesus is king of kings and lord of lords.
 
SpurHunter - 12/23/2010 2:06 PM

I will address one other thing Danny. I don't think I have ever offended you over your choice of religion, or at least I hope I haven't. I do want to say, "Your Right". There are heathens, adulterer's, liars, hypocrites, drug addicts, homosexuals and every kind of sinners at every church I have ever been to.

If you are under the impression that I or you should go to church, or not got to church because of the people in the same building as you, you are seriously missing the point. I go because of my beliefs in God, the people I choose to attend with are by choice because I enjoy their company and their style of worship, not because I think they are perfect or not without one of the faults I mentioned.

As far as "Church goes. There are just too many people with a "cheez" world view at church. They seem to "congregate" there. I have nothing in common with them. Why would I want to make the effort? My own personal beliefs about Faith, Jesus, God, and the Bible, and the purpose of life are not shared there anyway. My family, and I stopped going to Church in 1970, when my father was called a ni**er lover on the front steps of the Church for inviting a "black family" to church. That kind of thing sticks with a kid, and goes against everything that I had been taught was right. So when I see the hate and venom coming from those proclaiming Christ as their Savior. It takes me straight back to 1970. And where do they meet??? .... at Church! I understand that most are not hate filled, but many are. But enough of them are there, so I don't waste my time there when I could be fishing, and spending time with my family.
 
dtw2 - 12/23/2010 2:47 PM

outcaster it is not about race,color or sexual orientation, or age its about what God says is right and what he says is wrong, having sex with the same sex is wrong"sin", but telling a lie, stealing, cheating, murder, having other gods is also a sin. we as humans tend to put sin in different categories. But the point is not what we think is right or wrong but what God says is a sin, But no one can reveal this to you but by the holy spirit. If you were born again believer you would understand what Christians believe and practice, no by far we are not perfect but one day we will be, an one day all those that question God will have a chance at the white throne judgement, where you may state your purpose in life and give account, but unless you have your name written in the lambs book of life it will do you no good to state your purpose. But one thing is certain you will tell him "before judgement is passed on you" that Jesus is king of kings and lord of lords.

You make my point for me...... Using your religious beliefs to justify discrimination. To me that's as big of a transgression as any of the ones listed above. Save the religious BS for someone else........ unless you can prove it.
 
cheez - 12/23/2010 2:02 PM

Right now Stewart is just a mixed up kid with learned feminine tendencies. His behaviour will not become sinful and disgusting until or unless he takes it to the sexual level with the help of "non judgemental" people
his parents live him I am sure but if the truth be told his Marine father was not around during the boys early childhood.
Homosexuality is an in natural act. No matter how you or the SanFransisco crowd spin it. They are not born nor are they wired that way. Nowhere in nature us the act found but in human beings.

Do a little reading
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals
http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1925

Probably just liberal propaganda..... never mind the science
 
dtw2 - 12/23/2010 3:07 PM

I don't have to prove it, but one day you will see the light.

Why do people always say "I don't have to prove it"............ when they can't prove something. Sounds like a 5 year old arguing. lol
 
outcaster - 12/23/2010 2:10 PM

cheez - 12/23/2010 2:02 PM

Right now Stewart is just a mixed up kid with learned feminine tendencies. His behaviour will not become sinful and disgusting until or unless he takes it to the sexual level with the help of "non judgemental" people
his parents live him I am sure but if the truth be told his Marine father was not around during the boys early childhood.
Homosexuality is an in natural act. No matter how you or the SanFransisco crowd spin it. They are not born nor are they wired that way. Nowhere in nature us the act found but in human beings.

Do a little reading
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals
http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1925

Probably just liberal propaganda..... never mind the science
This is absolutely liberal propaganda. Animals exibit homosexual like behaviour only to establish dominance in the herd or the pack. Furthermore it in only brief and never continued to completion. Animals of the same sex never "mate" they simply hump around and go on about their business.
There is no "science" in this Danny. Merely more lies straight from hell. For every "study" that shows your perverted point if view there is another that shows the truth.
 
Really, I would love to see your "peer reviewed" scientific "non biblical" studies. It's funny... any scientific data or evidence that refutes your opinion.... is "straight from the gates of HELL" BTW 78% of all Americans support the repeal of "don't ask don't tell". Guess we're all perverts. lol
 
outcaster - 12/23/2010 3:13 PM

Really, I would love to see your "peer reviewed" scientific "non biblical" studies. It's funny... any scientific data or evidence that refutes your opinion.... is "straight from the gates of HELL" BTW 78% of all Americans support the repeal of "don't ask don't tell". Guess we're all perverts. lol

If ANYTHING goes against the teachings of the bible it is a lie straight from hell. End of story.

I would venture a guess that your 78% came straight from a liberal source.
 
cheez - 12/23/2010 5:41 PM

outcaster - 12/23/2010 3:13 PM

Really, I would love to see your "peer reviewed" scientific "non biblical" studies. It's funny... any scientific data or evidence that refutes your opinion.... is "straight from the gates of HELL" BTW 78% of all Americans support the repeal of "don't ask don't tell". Guess we're all perverts. lol

If ANYTHING goes against the teachings of the bible it is a lie straight from hell. End of story.

I would venture a guess that your 78% came straight from a liberal source.
That's just it... "you venture to guess quite a bit". A lie from the gates of hell...... Kinda like the earth is flat..... and is the center of the universe? Provable science trumps the Bible.... sorry. Ever heard of Galileo?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei
 
If people are born gay then we have to assume that they inherit that trait. So that being said if you believe in evolution which I am sure Outcaster does then there will eventually be no gay people since they cannot pro-create. They will all die off since they cannot pass on their genetic makeup. Oh yeah the thread has totally been hi-jacked by this point.
 
You guys are funny. No matter how you split both side are a little too close minded. Most bible thumpers claim that every word is the truth. They forget that the bible has been handled and twisted by men for a long time. Remember the bible has been used as an excuse to do very bad things to people that did not agree or fit in. I do however believe that the basic message is true. The science guys want to pretend that if something cannot be seen ,proven and measured that it does not exist. Science claimed the earth was flat, the sun revolved around the earth and that we are all ape cousins. Mean while science can't even cure a cold. I have been around when serious medical problems just seem to disappear.
,Just a few things to think about
 
I would rather live my life as if there were a God and then die to find out there was none than to live as though there were no God only to die and find out He is real. One thing is for sure and no one can argue. Life is short and we will ALL know the truth pretty soon. Even the atheists.
 

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