Small Loud Minority

[Bubbakat]

 

[twilson]

Kaiser Permanente the deductibles arent cheap and I am 28 so that kinda makes it more affordable. My parents pay 1280.00 per month for theirs and I think thats a load of crap. No doubt we need some serious reform.

 

[WLG]

R14 - 9/15/2009 6:45 PM



Second part, I believe, it speaks to having compassion for others (with no regard for how "right or wrong" their circumstance is). Also to me, providing healthcare is a simple manifestation of showing compassion.

Sorry R14 but I dont think I could do that.....Thats like saying I SHOULD provide support and health insurance to a child molester,a theif.a rapist,muderer?? Sure I SHOULD forgive them and I shouldnt judge them...But I will NOT support them in any shape from or fashion...to me that would be un american!!

 

[Guest]

Most of the child molesters, rapists, killers, all of that ilk is in jail and they get full health coverage from the teeth on down, all they have to do is tell a guard that they aren't feeling well or they hurt here and there and they get to go to the doctor or hospital, it doesn't matter what the ailment, they get full coverage. Anyone who goes to the emergency room for any ailment will get help, no matter where they are from. All of your illigal aliens do this, who do you think pays for all this? The good ole tax payer, like it or not. Anyone reading this will get the same treatment at an emergency room. This has been going on for years and years. If you have no insurance and one of your kids cuts themselves playing and you take them to the emergency room, they will be treated and sewn up or what ever and the tax payer pays for it.

 

[WLG]

Doc..I hate to disagree with you...but I do not beleive they will all get the same treatment at The ER. I remember when Tenncare was first put into motion my mother was on it because she was temporarily disabled....later on found it was cancer...long story...anyway....she couldnt get a doctor to see her because no one accepted Tenncare at the time. It was an absolute NIGHTMARE!! Like I said...when the senators...representatives...and all of those in government are on the EXACT same plan as I would be on....then sign me up!!

 

[Buoy-Master]

No joke Wade. BC/BS is denying a claim when my daughter hit her head and had amnesia. Lots of test were done and now we are having a war with them over payment!

 

[Guest]

Doc1 - 9/15/2009 6:29 PM

There are a few on here that are so filled with hate, not dislike, that want Obama to fail and go to the bottom as some say. Who do you think is going to the bottom with him? We all will, casting a disenting vote in 2010 will be the last thing on your mind, when you lose everything you have now accumilated, property, jobs, food for the table, insurance, etc. If the next depression hits, you will all be clawing the doors at your bank, screaming for your money but it won't be there, they won't let you in. You'll love it I am sure. Talk to grandpa and grandma and ask they how easy it was living in the depression, ask them if they want another one.

NOTHING olbummer is doing will prevent a depression. On the contrary nearly everything he is doing is speeding up the process. Call it hate if you want. I do not hate the man but I hate what he is doing to our country. I do not want him to fail as you say either. I want him to let the free market run and stay out of the pockets of the ones who are already paying too much for the waste and olbummer paybacks.

I and my family will survive even if we have a depression. The government does not now nor ever has supplied my needs. My needs are met from above.

As far as having compassion on my fellow man goes. If you have a need come see me and I will give you the shirt off my back and the food from my cupboards. Ask anyone who knows me and they will tell you this. Like I said before and will most likely have to repeat it again. I simply refuse to willingly give everything I have to help a lying socialist gain more power and help no one. Not without a fight at least.

 

[BustinBass197]

twilson - 9/14/2009 10:55 PM

R14 - 9/15/2009 12:26 AM

Look at it closer, 60% approve Obama or are neutral. Bush regular only got 30% approval (70% disapproved and neutral). It seems to me your still in the minority by 1/3, the same 1/3 that approved of the job that the previous president didn't do.

I dont think that is a very fair statement. I would say the neutral make up a pretty dang big part of those stats. You can make things look very different if you changed that around. ie On August 23rd 2009 27% strongly approved of the job Obama was doing so would that mean 73% strongly disapproved or were neutral? While on 1/14/09 Bush had 34% approval rating with 8% unsure or neutral so if I reversed what you said that would mean Bush only had 58% that didnt agree right? If you are gonna talk numbers then try comparing apples to apples.

Twilson has some good points. The majority of Americans either don't know what is going on or could care less because their lives have not been severely impacted yet. As long as their shows come on television, x-box works, and check comes in the mail every month why learn anything about the country. I am not as informed as I would like to be, but I do have common sense enough to know that things are not as they should be in this country. Each side of the dreaded cuss words of (Democrat) and (Republican) have good points. As far as Republicans are concerned a totally free market economy does promote business and the economy in general, but only to a certain extent. As the big boys get bigger the little boys get smaller. A completly free market would lend itself to most of our corporations going to other countries where labor is cheaper to operate. They would not be charged any import tarriffs. It is a good thought, but it has to be monitored, but the issue we speak of is healthcare, but in turn it could stimulate the economy. Republicans and Democrats cannot sit back and do nothing, they must work together. As far as Democratic comments are concerned the healthcare bill scares me. It is going to cost our country far too much money to complete. Where will the money come from? He said he would "require" each American to carry it. Wow! That would go over about as well as a poopy-popsicle. His plan sounds awesome outcome "give everyone great benefits", but where will it come from. He said that his pan still had significant details to be worked out. That is an understatement! I will be pissed and nonsupportive if I work my A@#$ off and then have to pay more so everyone else will benefit, but if he has a plan that will really work and make life better at the same time great. I would love to see Medicare done away with (too costly on govt), but people that truly are disabled or retired and cannot afford it would suffer. This does not mean I feel bad for Jane Doe that has 15 kids by 16 different people and "chooses" not to provide for the family. If medicare was gone, privatize the insurance to do away with the medicare. U.S. govt. pays insurance company for those that cannot afford it. Insurance company has to hire more people, stimulating economy. I would strongly support his plan if he would explain exactly how it would work. I do support my president, but as of right now I do not support this plan for lack of significant details. I think peace on Earth sounds like a really cool idea also, but I have no idea of how to do that either. I don't want it to seem like I am bashing Democrats. I generally support their policies, but on another hand what do Republicans on this forum think would fix America other than leaving it alone and Griping about Democrats. Sorry, I tend to ramble when I type. I never claimed to be smart, but I do have some common sense. emoQuestion