Obama Bans Sportfishing

[Bubbakat]

Whats wrong with being Anti- Obama. Seems the American thing to do.

 

[Possum]

Its like being in the desert and drinking the sand, some don't know the difference.

 

[bbdown]

This is about more than lumping us in with commercial fisherman. This gives the feds the authority to close down waterways, oceans and shorelines to all boat traffic despite any contrary recommendations or findings from state game and fish agencies. As an example, we have some pollutants in some of our local fish populations and warnings from TWRA not to eat certain fish. There is nothing in the current wording that would stop the feds from saying "listen the water is poluted no boating period." Or the view from the beaches of Florida would be so much more beautiful if there were no boats to look at. Let's designate an area from the beach to 3 miles off the coast a marine sanctuary. The current wording takes much of the control of local waterways out of the state agencies. IMHO state g&f know what's best for their fisheries not some pencil pusher in Washington.

 

[Bfish]

It is painfully obvious who has and who has not actually taken the time to actually read the proposal rather than rely on cut and paste bloggers.

 

[grayson_garrett]

No offense to those of you who have "drank the Obama kool-aid," but for espn to even bring up the topic on their website brings cause for concern. Whether you think that it is propaganda or not. And for those of us who show concern, Obama can't figure out how to get his greatest plan through, so I wouldn't worry about any ideas of restricting fishing! And for you lefties, you honestly don't think that what you read on your websites is true, since the rightwing stations and websites are all bull and propaganda? And I am still waiting on my Hope, all I have left is change (mostly pennies)!

 

[RattleTrapper]

What exactly does the proposal say? I think that most of the news I've seen on this subject is being twisted, but I've yet to find any info that lays out what the proposal is meant to accomplish and how it could potenitally affect inland sportfishing. I'm with Outcaster, I'd like to see someone try to stop all of us from fishing.

 

[Bfish]

RattleTrapper - 3/9/2010 11:16 PM

What exactly does the proposal say?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/assets/documents/09_17_09_Interim_Report_of_Task_Force_FINAL2.pdf

 

[bbdown]

Hahahahah Painfully obvious who's reading comprehension is not up to par. LOL
No matter your political affiliation if you're not even slightly concerned I don't see you as a sportsman. These groups go to bat for people they'll never know or meet. People that love the outdoors and love to fish. They spend great amounts of time and money to see that we have ample recreational fishing opportunities and that it continues for future generations. If you can't see that and share their concern because of your political allegance to a particular party, that's just pathetic. These people and local game and fish agencies have only one goal, providing us with opportunites to enjoy the outdoors.

 

[whenwegoin]

outcaster - 3/9/2010 11:59 PM

whenwegoin - 3/9/2010 4:04 PM

I've always said a vote for Obama was a vote for PETA!! Of course, I really shouldn't pick on Obama. You can just as easily say a vote for a liberal democrat is a vote for PETA!!

This is so un-believably absurd. I can't believe I'm gonna respond, but here goes. On both sides of the political spectrum there are fringe groups that have beliefs and Ideas far removed from the mainstream. On the far Left, there is PETA, very extreme environmentalists, and many others. On the far Right there are folks like the group from the Westboro Baptist Church, Timothy McVeigh, and Eric Rudolph. If all Liberals are required to be linked to PETA, then all Conservatives should be linked to the Westboro Baptist Church crowd. Is that OK with everyone?

Actually, I prefer a vote for a Republican is a vote for the UNBORN CHILD. How's that one? Did I strike another nerve?

A vote for a liberal Demorcrat is a vote for the NATIONAL ORGANIZATION OF WOMEN.

 

[outcaster]

Maybe it's you with comprehension dysfunction. I'll try again. I am concerned, on two fronts...... one for our oceans, lakes rivers and streams due to pollution, overfishing, commercial development. Two, When environmental changes are proposed, by both the Federal and State Govt's, regardless of whether it is a Democrat or Republican President or Governor, sportsmen are falsely seen as part of the problem, not the solution. Anglers and hunters, boaters, paddlers, backpackers, and other outdoor activities are too often the victims when others pollute, over fish, and develop too much land. Anglers get it from both sides, there are fewer fishing opportunities for us because others pollute and over fish, but when something needs to be done about it, on a fed or state level, we seem to be punished along with those that pollute and commercially over fish, and caused the problem in the first place. I am glad that outdoors groups are insisting that anglers and recreational boaters, be heard from, and exempt from sweeping environmental regulation. Maybe this President will listen this time. the ones before him did not. And hopefully the baby will not get thrown out with the bathwater this time.

 

[outcaster]

whenwegoin - 3/10/2010 8:58 AM

outcaster - 3/9/2010 11:59 PM

whenwegoin - 3/9/2010 4:04 PM

I've always said a vote for Obama was a vote for PETA!! Of course, I really shouldn't pick on Obama. You can just as easily say a vote for a liberal democrat is a vote for PETA!!

This is so un-believably absurd. I can't believe I'm gonna respond, but here goes. On both sides of the political spectrum there are fringe groups that have beliefs and Ideas far removed from the mainstream. On the far Left, there is PETA, very extreme environmentalists, and many others. On the far Right there are folks like the group from the Westboro Baptist Church, Timothy McVeigh, and Eric Rudolph. If all Liberals are required to be linked to PETA, then all Conservatives should be linked to the Westboro Baptist Church crowd. Is that OK with everyone?

Actually, I prefer a vote for a Republican is a vote for the UNBORN CHILD. How's that one? Did I strike another nerve?

A vote for a liberal Demorcrat is a vote for the NATIONAL ORGANIZATION OF WOMEN.

You must be a proud member of the Westboro Baptist Church! How's that one? http://www.godhatesfags.com/
There's you a link to their lovely website.

We can do this all day if you want to.

A vote for a conservative politician is also a vote for:

Coat hanger, back alley abortions.
Women not being allowed to vote.
Blacks, drinking from separate water fountains, riding at the back of the bus
Bombing Women's clinics
Killing Dr's while they are sitting in Church
Bombing public parks
Blowing up Federal buildings
Lynch mobs
Jim Crow laws
Dirty air and water
Greed and corruption
the KKK

just a few for now, I can keep going if you want to keep this nonsense up!

 

[Guest]

Danny I have not made any "jump" as you say. I simply posted a couple articles about the subject. I did not write the articles and if ESPN and many other sportsman's groups had not weighed in I might not have posted this.
I do know for a fact that were it not for the Republicans and the NRA we would have lost our second ammendment rights long ago. I for one WILL perpetuate the scare tactics to keep my constitutional rights. I believe it is the only way.
These PETA type groups have made inroads with the help of the democratic party all over the country. Same way with the fags. Same way with the illegal aliens. They are all cut from the same cloth and want to tear our country down.
The only way to stop them is to be proactive. I think we that oppose this kind of garbage should use whatever legal means necessary to educate the otherwise ignorant people that the democratic party is not as good a friend as their supporters think they are.

 

[Guest]

We can do this all day if you want to.

A vote for a conservative politician is also a vote for:

Coat hanger, back alley abortions.
Women not being allowed to vote.
Blacks, drinking from separate water fountains, riding at the back of the bus
Bombing Women's clinics
Killing Dr's while they are sitting in Church
Bombing public parks
Blowing up Federal buildings
Lynch mobs
Jim Crow laws
Dirty air and water
Greed and corruption
the KKK

just a few for now, I can keep going if you want to keep this nonsense up!



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I'm game Danny. How about this? Every example you just posted grossly pales in comparison to the 1.4 MILLION babies that are brutally murdered at the hands of the abortionist EVERY YEAR in this country. How about partial birth abortion? Your messiah supports this barbaric attrocity. I can post up some photos and graphic descriptions of this if you want.

 

[Fishheadspin]

anyone that does not believe there is a real threat to sportfishing just do a google search...RED SNAPPER...as a life long saltwater fisherman and someone who goes down there 5-7 times a year, i will say this is real and a scary situation for fishing.

i am and have been a member of several florida forums and there is a real threat to all gulf fishing. The US government is using false/flawed data to evaluate fish stocks to set season and creel limits.

The federal government already forced the state of Fl to follow the same season for red snapper by threatening full closure if the state did not adopt the same regs. in state waters as in federal waters. Until last season, snapper season ran from April 15- October 31 and 2/person/day in state waters. Due to the potential complete closure by the federal government, Fl caved in and moved its season to the same as the fed season June 1- july 31.

There have been many other propositons lobbied and still being lobbied to close other gulf speices fishing also. 2 years ago a bill was shot down that would have completely closed all king mackeral fishing. it was a bill that that stated that striped marlin were nearly extinct in the gulf and wanted any and all fishing that may potentially harm the stripe marlin stock to be banned.

I could go on and on...Sportfishing is more than bass fishing. It may start in the gulf but if it continues, who says that Uncle Sam does come to Tn and say that bass fishing is hurting the snail darter stock and close bass fishing down too...

do your own research!!!!

Great forum site on the gulf...........www.florida-offshore.com go to forums and fisheries issues.....

 

[Guest]

Fishheadspin - 3/10/2010 9:51 AM

anyone that does not believe there is a real threat to sportfishing just do a google search...RED SNAPPER...as a life long saltwater fisherman and someone who goes down there 5-7 times a year, i will say this is real and a scary situation for fishing.

i am and have been a member of several florida forums and there is a real threat to all gulf fishing. The US government is using false/flawed data to evaluate fish stocks to set season and creel limits.

The federal government already forced the state of Fl to follow the same season for red snapper by threatening full closure if the state did not adopt the same regs. in state waters as in federal waters. Until last season, snapper season ran from April 15- October 31 and 2/person/day in state waters. Due to the potential complete closure by the federal government, Fl caved in and moved its season to the same as the fed season June 1- july 31.

There have been many other propositons lobbied and still being lobbied to close other gulf speices fishing also. 2 years ago a bill was shot down that would have completely closed all king mackeral fishing. it was a bill that that stated that striped marlin were nearly extinct in the gulf and wanted any and all fishing that may potentially harm the stripe marlin stock to be banned.

I could go on and on...Sportfishing is more than bass fishing. It may start in the gulf but if it continues, who says that Uncle Sam does come to Tn and say that bass fishing is hurting the snail darter stock and close bass fishing down too...

do your own research!!!!

Great forum site on the gulf...........www.florida-offshore.com go to forums and fisheries issues.....

This is exactly what I am talking about. These left wing nutjobs are not going to ban fishing or hunting or gun ownership in one fell swoop. They needle and pick and slice until we wake up one day and we have no rights or priveledges left. Sad thing is that the majority of the people actually believe that our government will not allow these things to happen.

 

[outcaster]

cheez - 3/10/2010 9:42 AM

Danny I have not made any "jump" as you say. I simply posted a couple articles about the subject. I did not write the articles and if ESPN and many other sportsman's groups had not weighed in I might not have posted this.
I do know for a fact that were it not for the Republicans and the NRA we would have lost our second ammendment rights long ago. I for one WILL perpetuate the scare tactics to keep my constitutional rights. I believe it is the only way.
These PETA type groups have made inroads with the help of the democratic party all over the country. Same way with the fags. Same way with the illegal aliens. They are all cut from the same cloth and want to tear our country down.
The only way to stop them is to be proactive. I think we that oppose this kind of garbage should use whatever legal means necessary to educate the otherwise ignorant people that the democratic party is not as good a friend as their supporters think they are.

You did title the thread "Obama Bans Sportfishing" which you know or should know that's not the case at all, which to me was a huge jump once I read the articles. If being proactive means spinning a couple of articles to mean that OBama wants my fishing rod and gun, I do understand the whatever means necessary approach. Many of us can see it for what it is, others can't, guess that's what you are counting on.

 

[whenwegoin]

PETA voted for him didn't they? They supported him didn't they? Yes, PETA wants to ban fishing, hunting, eating animals, aquariums, zoos, etc.

You are correct in mentioned the "right wing" wackos. They are just that. Wackos. They really have no political clout. Organizations like PETA and NOW have a lot of clout, namely with the DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

 

[Guest]

outcaster - 3/10/2010 10:02 AM

cheez - 3/10/2010 9:42 AM

Danny I have not made any "jump" as you say. I simply posted a couple articles about the subject. I did not write the articles and if ESPN and many other sportsman's groups had not weighed in I might not have posted this.
I do know for a fact that were it not for the Republicans and the NRA we would have lost our second ammendment rights long ago. I for one WILL perpetuate the scare tactics to keep my constitutional rights. I believe it is the only way.
These PETA type groups have made inroads with the help of the democratic party all over the country. Same way with the fags. Same way with the illegal aliens. They are all cut from the same cloth and want to tear our country down.
The only way to stop them is to be proactive. I think we that oppose this kind of garbage should use whatever legal means necessary to educate the otherwise ignorant people that the democratic party is not as good a friend as their supporters think they are.

You did title the thread "Obama Bans Sportfishing" which you know or should know that's not the case at all, which to me was a huge jump once I read the articles. If being proactive means spinning a couple of articles to mean that OBama wants my fishing rod and gun, I do understand the whatever means necessary approach. Many of us can see it for what it is, others can't, guess that's what you are counting on.

The title of the thread is also the title to the newsletter I got so I just passed it along. Also ohbummer himself said "the buck stops with me". So when anything happens during his administration good or bad it will be his doings. The "whatever means" is only partially true. I will not tell lies but at the same time I will not sugar coat anything I see as a threat. Obama owes the peope who put him in office and PETA is one of those groups. He must give them something so as to keep their support. I am counting on people to be scared of this guy enough to not just take the mainstream media and his word for anything.

 

[grayson_garrett]

Obama was trying to pass laws that would tell me when I could go to the Dr.! How can you not see that he is not a good leader? I don't give a**edited for profanity**what party you are from! What right of yours will he take that will finally push you over the edge?

 

[Flipping WURMS]

I enjoyed reading a few of these posts complaining about illegal aliens and abortion then I believe they get some kinda buzz venting about "Obama" This government was way out of control along time before these dumb sses took over.The american polotician has to go through so much they lose took eith the blue coller roots that made this place what it is. Isnt abortion a good way of population control or do we need more young,dumb,drug addicted kids having babies and just imagine for every american baby killed by an irresponsible person ten more slide under the fence .