cheez - 3/10/2010 10:46 AM
outcaster - 3/10/2010 10:02 AM
cheez - 3/10/2010 9:42 AM
Danny I have not made any "jump" as you say. I simply posted a couple articles about the subject. I did not write the articles and if ESPN and many other sportsman's groups had not weighed in I might not have posted this.
I do know for a fact that were it not for the Republicans and the NRA we would have lost our second ammendment rights long ago. I for one WILL perpetuate the scare tactics to keep my constitutional rights. I believe it is the only way.
These PETA type groups have made inroads with the help of the democratic party all over the country. Same way with the fags. Same way with the illegal aliens. They are all cut from the same cloth and want to tear our country down.
The only way to stop them is to be proactive. I think we that oppose this kind of garbage should use whatever legal means necessary to educate the otherwise ignorant people that the democratic party is not as good a friend as their supporters think they are.
You did title the thread "Obama Bans Sportfishing" which you know or should know that's not the case at all, which to me was a huge jump once I read the articles. If being proactive means spinning a couple of articles to mean that OBama wants my fishing rod and gun, I do understand the whatever means necessary approach. Many of us can see it for what it is, others can't, guess that's what you are counting on.
The title of the thread is also the title to the newsletter I got so I just passed it along. Also ohbummer himself said "the buck stops with me". So when anything happens during his administration good or bad it will be his doings. The "whatever means" is only partially true. I will not tell lies but at the same time I will not sugar coat anything I see as a threat. Obama owes the peope who put him in office and PETA is one of those groups. He must give them something so as to keep their support. I am counting on people to be scared of this guy enough to not just take the mainstream media and his word for anything.
[/QUOTE]cheez - 3/10/2010 9:50 AM
We can do this all day if you want to.
A vote for a conservative politician is also a vote for:
Coat hanger, back alley abortions.
Women not being allowed to vote.
Blacks, drinking from separate water fountains, riding at the back of the bus
Bombing Women's clinics
Killing Dr's while they are sitting in Church
Bombing public parks
Blowing up Federal buildings
Lynch mobs
Jim Crow laws
Dirty air and water
Greed and corruption
the KKK
just a few for now, I can keep going if you want to keep this nonsense up!
Fishheadspin - 3/10/2010 9:51 AM
anyone that does not believe there is a real threat to sportfishing just do a google search...RED SNAPPER...as a life long saltwater fisherman and someone who goes down there 5-7 times a year, i will say this is real and a scary situation for fishing.
i am and have been a member of several florida forums and there is a real threat to all gulf fishing. The US government is using false/flawed data to evaluate fish stocks to set season and creel limits.
The federal government already forced the state of Fl to follow the same season for red snapper by threatening full closure if the state did not adopt the same regs. in state waters as in federal waters. Until last season, snapper season ran from April 15- October 31 and 2/person/day in state waters. Due to the potential complete closure by the federal government, Fl caved in and moved its season to the same as the fed season June 1- july 31.
There have been many other propositons lobbied and still being lobbied to close other gulf speices fishing also. 2 years ago a bill was shot down that would have completely closed all king mackeral fishing. it was a bill that that stated that striped marlin were nearly extinct in the gulf and wanted any and all fishing that may potentially harm the stripe marlin stock to be banned.
I could go on and on...Sportfishing is more than bass fishing. It may start in the gulf but if it continues, who says that Uncle Sam does come to Tn and say that bass fishing is hurting the snail darter stock and close bass fishing down too...
do your own research!!!!
Great forum site on the gulf...........www.florida-offshore.com go to forums and fisheries issues.....
cheez - 3/10/2010 3:32 PM
Danny you started it with the list of Republican garbage. I never mentioned abortion until then do just don't go there.
Fishheadspin - 3/10/2010 2:52 PM
outcaster,,,,,you need to check with anyone that has fished the florida panahndle area and AL areas in the last 5 years.....Red Snapper are so plentiful that you can not catch a grouper due to getting a bait down through the snappers. 10 pound snappers are being caught off of wrecks .5 miles off the beach everyday in destin.. i know i have done it! i have friends that even caught red snapper flatling cigar minnows off of kayaks jsut over the 3rd bar around no structure at all in destin less than 400 yards from the beach.... There are literally so many snapper right now that they are becoming pelagic looking for new structure to live on.....In grayton beach year after year for the last 10 years i have caught red snapper and can wave at people on the beach..... and all the recent data from last years catch suggeested that the average snapper caught has gone up over a pound.
I dont doubt that the snappers got overfished 15 years ago but they are in fine shape now and maybe to the point that they are becoming a nuisance fish and eating everything that is hatching from other species....
If you need proof to anythign i say i will post pictures!!!!!!
Flipping WURMS - 3/10/2010 4:51 PM
1.4 millions babies aborted each year leads to less welfare babies an actually helps society because these babies are not being raised by these poor humans.Every idea has two sides theres one
It's not the government's job to do. That responsibility belongs to the private sector (churches, charities, etc.). They are more efficient and fair in taking care of those that need it. When the government tries to create systems to do it, they become oversized and abused, like Medicare and Medicaid. Thanks for the quote by the way emoPokePossum - 3/10/2010 11:12 PM
So Cheez do you think that the U.S. can prop up the weak, lazy, and incapable citizen in our society and still survive as a nation?
