Pay Raises Frozen for Federal Employees

[Rangerman]

One word FAIR TAX!!!!
Everyone pays the same, cut the IRS and absurd tax code, deficit solved.

 

[Sniperchoke]

We have had this discussion before:: Just so everyone knows where outcaster is comming from....

Hey Outcaster here are some more statistics. The top 1% of taxpayers, those who earn above $388,806, paid 40% of all income taxes in 2006,(source Dep. of Treasury) the highest share in at least 40 years. The top 10% in income, those earning more than $108,904, paid 71%. Barack Obama says he's going to cut taxes for those at the bottom, but that's also going to be a challenge because Americans with an income below the median paid a record low 2.9% of all income taxes, while the top 50% paid 97.1%. Perhaps he thinks half the country should pay all the taxes to support the other half. I rest my case.

Outcaster Response::::That's fine.... Go ahead, feel guilty that you are not paying your fair share when compared to the rich man. I choose not to. Go back to school, invent something, work 100 hours a week, or buy a lottery ticket. Make yourself rich, then you won't have to feel guilty anymore.
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Danny Mitchell "We all live downstream"

My Response:::::Is that because you are selfish and it is all about you. I thought you liberals where so caring that you would give up your tax dollars for the gov't to give it to someone who really needs it. Now we see the real ploy. Keep the liberals in power so I don't have to pay my fair share. Truth hurts huh.

 

[brushhog]

does that 2.9% include single americans or married with family?

 

[beetlespin]

Flat tax!

 

[Sniperchoke]

The 2.9% includes both.

 

[brushhog]

just wondering,i have children and it seems to have been a little rough the last couple years,ex. at tax time..

 

[Guest]

outcaster - 12/1/2010 7:52 PM

HELLO!!!!!! Congress already had Obamacare! (Gubment insurance)

The insurance that congress and olbummer have is WAY better than the crap that is in olbummerdontcare and you know it.

 

[outcaster]

cheez - 12/2/2010 10:18 AM

outcaster - 12/1/2010 7:52 PM

HELLO!!!!!! Congress already had Obamacare! (Gubment insurance)

The insurance that congress and olbummer have is WAY better than the crap that is in olbummerdontcare and you know it.

So if the quality of Obamacare coverage were a little better...... you would support it? Cheez, you're all over the place
At lease sniperchoke is consistent. CMON MAN!

 

[Guest]

outcaster - 12/2/2010 11:57 AM

cheez - 12/2/2010 10:18 AM

outcaster - 12/1/2010 7:52 PM

HELLO!!!!!! Congress already had Obamacare! (Gubment insurance)

The insurance that congress and olbummer have is WAY better than the crap that is in olbummerdontcare and you know it.

So if the quality of Obamacare coverage were a little better...... you would support it? Cheez, you're all over the place
At lease sniperchoke is consistent. CMON MAN!

As usual you missed my point completely. I personally think it is by design on your part. Nonetheless I will spell it out for those who read this thinking you actually have some substance in your posts.

My point in this discussion is that during the debate over this socialized healthcare there was no equity from the very proponents of the legislation. NONE of the liberals who shoved this junk through signed on to recieve the "benefits" from it. They all kept their lavish government insurance but told the American people that this bill would save the country. AGAIN my point is(was) that if the olbummerdontcare plan was so great then why did none of the shovelers sign up for it PERSONALLY? I will say YET AGAIN that the reason they did not sign on personally was simply because it is not that good. It was and still is ALL about POWER. It was and still is about the liberals buying votes.

I will go on record AGAIN and say that I will never support any government run program for anyone other than for the ones who are TRULY in need.

 

[outcaster]

Sniperchoke - 12/1/2010 8:29 PM

We have had this discussion before:: Just so everyone knows where outcaster is comming from....

Hey Outcaster here are some more statistics. The top 1% of taxpayers, those who earn above $388,806, paid 40% of all income taxes in 2006,(source Dep. of Treasury) the highest share in at least 40 years. The top 10% in income, those earning more than $108,904, paid 71%. Barack Obama says he's going to cut taxes for those at the bottom, but that's also going to be a challenge because Americans with an income below the median paid a record low 2.9% of all income taxes, while the top 50% paid 97.1%. Perhaps he thinks half the country should pay all the taxes to support the other half. I rest my case.

Outcaster Response::::That's fine.... Go ahead, feel guilty that you are not paying your fair share when compared to the rich man. I choose not to. Go back to school, invent something, work 100 hours a week, or buy a lottery ticket. Make yourself rich, then you won't have to feel guilty anymore.
-----
Danny Mitchell "We all live downstream"

My Response:::::Is that because you are selfish and it is all about you. I thought you liberals where so caring that you would give up your tax dollars for the gov't to give it to someone who really needs it. Now we see the real ploy. Keep the liberals in power so I don't have to pay my fair share. Truth hurts huh.

And what I said is spot on accurate! I'm sorry you feel so guilty! lol

 

[Sniperchoke]

So its all about you. Not for the good of the country or downtrodden like liberals would have us to believe. Thanks for clearing that up...

 

[outcaster]

Sniperchoke - 12/2/2010 1:19 PM

So its all about you. Not for the good of the country or downtrodden like liberals would have us to believe. Thanks for clearing that up...

When it comes to taxes, you're right, it is about me. I don't like being screwed. The lowest income levels pay nothing, some even get a subsidy, (which almost always goes directly back into the economy). The richest 3% got the lions share of the tax cuts, and guys like me are stuck with an un-fair overall tax burden. Yet the ones at the lowest income levels are the most vocal cheerleaders for the richest 3%. It's like some sort of master-servant mentality. And if we get back on the same course like the new conservative Congress leadership is already calling for, pretty soon that's what we'll have..... a Nation made up entirely of masters and servants. But hell, that's really what they want anyway.

 

[Sniperchoke]

A nation of masters and servants already exists... The Gov't is the master and we are the servants.. I work from Jan. to April to make payments to my master.

 

[outcaster]

cheez - 12/2/2010 12:15 PM

outcaster - 12/2/2010 11:57 AM

cheez - 12/2/2010 10:18 AM

outcaster - 12/1/2010 7:52 PM

HELLO!!!!!! Congress already had Obamacare! (Gubment insurance)

The insurance that congress and olbummer have is WAY better than the crap that is in olbummerdontcare and you know it.

So if the quality of Obamacare coverage were a little better...... you would support it? Cheez, you're all over the place
At lease sniperchoke is consistent. CMON MAN!

As usual you missed my point completely. I personally think it is by design on your part. Nonetheless I will spell it out for those who read this thinking you actually have some substance in your posts.

My point in this discussion is that during the debate over this socialized healthcare there was no equity from the very proponents of the legislation. NONE of the liberals who shoved this junk through signed on to recieve the "benefits" from it. They all kept their lavish government insurance but told the American people that this bill would save the country. AGAIN my point is(was) that if the olbummerdontcare plan was so great then why did none of the shovelers sign up for it PERSONALLY? I will say YET AGAIN that the reason they did not sign on personally was simply because it is not that good. It was and still is ALL about POWER. It was and still is about the liberals buying votes.

I will go on record AGAIN and say that I will never support any government run program for anyone other than for the ones who are TRULY in need.

No, cheez.... it's not that good.... it's basic coverage with minimum standards for those that have NONE. If you have better coverage, then keep it. I suppose conservatives never buy votes. You're killin me with this stuff.

 

[Possum]

Sniperchoke - 12/2/2010 2:15 PM

A nation of masters and servants already exists... The Gov't is the master and we are the servants.. I work from Jan. to April to make payments to my master.

Snip you work from January to April to make payments to the government so your corporate master does not have to. emoThanks

 

[Sniperchoke]

Possum - 12/2/2010 5:40 PM

Sniperchoke - 12/2/2010 2:15 PM

A nation of masters and servants already exists... The Gov't is the master and we are the servants.. I work from Jan. to April to make payments to my master.

Snip you work from January to April to make payments to the government so your corporate master does not have to. emoThanks

If I don't pay I go to jail. Much like slave masters used to whip their servants into submission..

 

[Possum]

Snip you could just become a hermit. That way you wouldn't go to jail or feel bad about freeloading off those of us that pay for roads, schools, medical research, bridges, dams, Medical facilities, lakes, and preserve management, military, police, fire protection and so on. Not to mention no telling how many other things that allows us to have a much higher standard of living than most other societies. Just because you want to take us back 90 years does not mean the rest of us want to go with you.

 

[Sniperchoke]

Possum - 12/2/2010 8:07 PM

Snip you could just become a hermit. That way you wouldn't go to jail or feel bad about freeloading off those of us that pay for roads, schools, medical research, bridges, dams, Medical facilities, lakes, and preserve management, military, police, fire protection and so on. Not to mention no telling how many other things that allows us to have a much higher standard of living than most other societies. Just because you want to take us back 90 years does not mean the rest of us want to go with you.

We could have way more than those perks and not be in debt if the gov't would go back to what the founders intended.

 

[outcaster]

Sniperchoke - 12/2/2010 9:27 PM

Possum - 12/2/2010 8:07 PM

Snip you could just become a hermit. That way you wouldn't go to jail or feel bad about freeloading off those of us that pay for roads, schools, medical research, bridges, dams, Medical facilities, lakes, and preserve management, military, police, fire protection and so on. Not to mention no telling how many other things that allows us to have a much higher standard of living than most other societies. Just because you want to take us back 90 years does not mean the rest of us want to go with you.

We could have way more than those perks and not be in debt if the gov't would go back to what the founders intended.

Snip.... I kinda like having my food inspected, my medicine approved, having the restaurant cleanliness score posted, knowing that if a fire breaks out that the building has fire alarms and sprinklers, having a gov't employee confirm that a gallon of gasoline is really a gallon. Guess that makes me a communist.

 

[Sniperchoke]

I don't need or trust the gov't to tell me those things. The market will tell me those things much more efficiently..