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Skeeter

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I know many fishermen use specific rods for specific lures. My question to you is what action rod do you use for your lures and why?

Here is a list of various tackle. What action rod would you use

Crankbait
Spinnerbait
Jerkbait
Buzzbait
Rattle trap
Jig
Worm
Topwater
 
Well Skeeter I'm a very simple guy, and a tight wad too. I would use a 7' med. hvy. Castaway casting rod on all those lures except the jig. I would use a 7.5' hvy. for that.
 
Speaking of Castaway rods. Waht would you compare it to? I just bought a 7' Medium from Cory Nichols. I havent ever used one or know anyone that has.
 
I really like them. I had never used them before, RangerRob and Freebird picked me up 3 at the B'ham B.A.S.S. event last year. I'm planning on getting 3 more this month. The 2 7' Castaways and the two Trion reels that I got from Churly are great combos and I only have about $115 in each. I know some of yall have several hundred bucks in a combo, but this set-up works great for me.
 
I use all casting rods and they are all Kistler rods.

Crankbait 7' Medium
Spinnerbait 7' Medium Heavy
Jerkbait 7' Medium
Buzzbait 7' Medium Heavy
Rattle trap 7' Medium Composite Glass rod
Jig 7' Medium Heavy for everyday normal use. For heavy cover I will use my 7'8" Heavy
Worm 7' Medium Heavy
Topwater 7' Medium for most lures but for heavier baits I will move to a MH in the same length.
 
sdfd504 - 2/5/2007 4:42 PM I use all casting rods and they are all Kistler rods. Crankbait 7' Medium Spinnerbait 7' Medium Heavy Jerkbait 7' Medium Buzzbait 7' Medium Heavy Rattle trap 7' Medium Composite Glass rod Jig 7' Medium Heavy for everyday normal use. For heavy cover I will use my 7'8" Heavy Worm 7' Medium Heavy Topwater 7' Medium for most lures but for heavier baits I will move to a MH in the same length.
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<font color="#ff0033">a vulgar display of wealth....LOL  plus, all of them 400 bandits...</font></p>
 
Well I'm cheap and not convinced that a $150.00 rod is really that much better than a $50.00 rod at least not in my hands anyway. I use a 6 1/2' MH casting rod (lightning rod) for my C'ring rod. I like a 6 1/2' M casting rod (lighting rod) for spinnerbaits and slugo's, rattle traps, big crank baits, a 7' H Garcia Gold Max flippin stick for well- flippin, pitching, back up c'rig, I have several 6' M spinning rods (lightning rods or ugly sticks) for finesse soft plastics, 6 1/2' spinning BPS bionic rod for jerk baits, 6' MH spinning (lightning rod) for heavy jigs or grubs, rattle traps, smaller crankbaits. I don't think a man can have too many rods, reels, baits, tackle boxes, or for that matter anything that has to do with fishing.
 
I use Four Lamiglass baitcast style rods in M to MH, 6.5 to 7' for all except light jigs and worm fishing. For that I use my spinning rig for jigs. The spinning combo I use for light Bass jigs is a Silstar Pinnacle PF35 reel on a Pinnacle 6'-6" ML rod with 8lb small diameter line. My worm rod is an Ambassadour 1021 plus reel on a Fenwick HMG Triggerstick GTC845 7'-0" rod. Any of you guys remember the black Ambassadour 1021 Plus reels with all the switches? I have two of them and would not trade them for another baitcasting reel on the market. I use one for worm fishing and the other on my flipping stick. They were originally designed for flipping and were a hit for a while. These reels are still so sweet.
 
<font color="#6600ff">hey Blake, that was a funny you pulled there.....and a good one.... I bet it was a  flipping stick....</font> </p>

crank baits-------6 1/2 lighting rod 7' custom (RainShadowblank)..  </p>

worm       ------ 61/2 MH (casting & spin) All Star  </p>

hair jigs/shakyheads-----61/2  custom spin rods </p>

other stuff  ------ 6' rods for spinnerbaits,etc...  </p>

I have many old style reels that have TLC and are working very good. anyone need a rod?? I will be getting rid of some at the flea swap.</p>
 
Well let's see, all of mine are AllPro except for the one FA custom I have.

Worm, Spinnerbaits : 6'10" MH
Jerkbaits : 6'6" MH
Jig: 7'6" H
C'rig : 7'2" XXHeavy
CB : 7'2" "FA special" Medium
hair jigs : 7' MH spinning
 
Terms like ML and M are arbitrary terms at best. There is no industry standard for those terms and Company A's ML might be identical to Company B's M. And even Company A might have a casting rod and a spinning rod, both in M, but they could be different.

The best insight into a rods power rating is going to be the lure rating. For example St. Croix's ML spinning rod is rated for 1/8 - 3/8 ounces.
 
R14 brought up an excellent point. Another thing to consider is that one person's "worm" rod is someone elses "spinnerbait" rod. Everyone fishes differently ... they use different line, different baits, and present their baits in different fashions. After selling all of my All Stars to you guys, I went and did something on Friday that I've wanted to do for a long, long time - I ordered some customs. I decided to use John Miles for several reasons: he's minutes from my house, he listened intently to what I wanted in each of my rods, he took exact measurements and asked specific questions about what I prefer to fish (line weight and lure weight) of each rod, and he gave me a heck of a deal since I needed so many (nine). This weekend, I'll be getting the "RR specials" built to my exact specs with graphite handles, titanium guides, color-coded thread (each application has a different color) and split grips and I can't wait. Here were the nuts and bolts of my wish list for each technique-specific rod:

Pitching rods - I got two of these since it's what I prefer to do 90% of the time. Each rod will be 7' and the blanks were chosen based on the fact that I pitch with either 3/8 or 1/2 oz jigs or lead, and each rod will be suitable for 15lb flouro up to 50lb braid.

Spinnerbait rod - 6'10" MH(ish) rod that will allow me to throw (primarily what I stick to) 3/8 and 1/2 oz SBs. I wanted these rods to be slightly shorter so that I could more accurately toss SBs around docks and under tree limbs.

Topwater rod - 6'8" rod with a lot of power in the butt and mid-section, but with just enough tip to walk a Sammy or twitch a Pop-R. I wanted a little stiffer rod than what I'm accustomed to for TW because I usually throw BBs and wanted something that would horse a toad out of the slop. This was also the shortest rod that I ordered and did this so that the tip wouldn't slap the water while working a walking bait. Suitable for 15lb mono.

Shallow Cranks - 6'8" rod designed for tossing shallow cranks around in tight quarters. Like the rest of my CB rods, it will have an overall moderate taper from butt to tip to keep a bass from ripping those trebles free. This rod will be suitable for 1/4 - 1/2 oz shallow running cranks (less than 8') and 12 lb mono.

Shallow Cranks - 7' rod that will be identical to the above except 4" longer. I'll use this for the same application except it will be more for open water when accuracy isn't as big a factor. Most of the time it will be spooled w/ 10lb flouro. This is the rod that I'll also primarily throw Traps on.

Deep Cranks - 7' rod patterned after the other CB rods, but this one will be used for 3/8 - 3/4 oz baits that run in excess of 8' and have a slightly heavier action to it. Again, 10lb flouro will be on this one.

Carolina Rigging rod - this will be a stout, heavy action rod that measures in at 7'3" and will hurl massive gobs of lead through the air for several miles. It will also back-up as my frog rod for fishing the slop. Ideally, a frog rod should probably have a little more "give" to the tip section than this rod will (because those frogs are so light), but I fish frogs 10 minutes out of the year and wasn't about to buy a rod for that purpose ... this one will do fine. The plus side is that the overall stiffness of this rod will yank a bass out of the slop on the G real, real well. It will have 50lb braid on it.

Spotsticker rod - my one Fairy Wand (spinning) was designed so that I get great sensitivity when fishing a shakey-head (usually 1/8 oz). It will have a graphite split, TN handle and measures 6'10". This rod is probably going to be about what most would consider Med action, but it will have a slightly over-all faster action to it. A lot of times I'm deep with these baits, so I wanted something that would take up line faster on the hookset and not have too much "give" when driving that little light wire hook home. 6'10" was a compromise length for me because it would give me enough length to set the hook, but still short enough to make accurate tosses under docks. Ideally, I'd like to have two of these rods - one 6'6" and one 7' - but one will do me if this one turns out the way I believe it will.

Custom rods aren't for everyone, and I realize they are quite costly (I saved for these for QUITE a while), but when you can sit down with a builder like Fat Albert or John Miles and get EXACTLY what you want, then you better understand the value (he's still waaaay cheaper than a Loomis or even some St Croix). I must say that after leaving Mr. Miles house the other night, I was hooked. I left fully satisfied that I had gotten the exact tools for MY needs. Even things like hook keepers were left off (I never use those things) and exact handle lengths and measurements were made. If nothing else, I would encourage most to ask themselves what their favorite technique is, and then have a custom rod built solely for that purpose.

This is a good topic Skeeter. As it continues to grow, you'll probably get tons more answers ... and all be be 100% right for the author. Some will read my above specs and think, "there's no way I'd ever want that in my "X" rod," but rods are as individual as we are and everyone has a different interpretation of the way a rod should fish. The good news is, you've got a bazillion options out there, so just do your homework and ask YOURSELF what you want out of a particular rod.

RR
 
<font color="#6600ff">Dang, RR that was impressive...I wish you well....sounds like a lot of time and thought was put into this selection....FA</font>
 
i was all ready to put in my 2 cents and then realized that all info in above pulitzer prize winning novel covered it all. i agree that one mans junk is anothers favorite . over the yrs. though why have we gone to technique specific rods?????. is it because it makes us better fisherman? or have we fallen into the marketing traps of these companies. i remember not to many yrs ago a 6'6 mh rod would cover everything ---( i myself have fallen guilty to thinking i need 47 rods and end up using two or three over the course of any given day or tournament) oh well just my op.


have enough rods for 8 people and theres just 1 of me emoLaugh emoLaugh emoLaugh emoLaugh emoScratch
 
I agree with you dunk ... to an extent. A 6'6" MH rod WILL do everything. Much like a 7 iron will get you all the way around a golf course from tee to green, but the woods, irons, wedges, and putter all have their place too.

"To a man with a hammer ... everything's a nail." I just choose to carry a few different hammers. emoLaugh
 
RR, really nice write upemoThumbsup

I am curious as to which blanks JM helped you chose for each application, if you don't mind listing or PM me, if he divulged that info. I am in the market for a custom (possible to be built by myself) and I am having a hard time deciding which rod I should build (or have build) first and more importantly on what blank.
 
I don't know the exact blanks R14, but they're all Shikaris. The CB rods will actually be built with popping blanks, but I didn't get into the specifics of exactly which blanks. If he were using Rainshadows, I would've asked only because I'm more familiar with their line. Once I have them, if you want specifics on a certain one, just let me know as I'm sure Mr. Miles wouldn't care to divulge the info.
 
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