VW union Vote Update

[shawnr]

I do like my job and my benefits , but I know that some people in upper management would cut my throat to line their pockets

 

[Sniperchoke]

Apply for upper management and take their job

 

[shawnr]

No thanks,I am not interested in moving

 

[Maverick]

Outcaster you made a very good point, you are probably wasting your time on here they just don't get it. VW is a multi national corporation and make billions in sales. All you have to do is create a little fear in the south and people go crazy, buy up all the ammo, have revivals, and so on. VW understands that if their employees cannot comfortably afford their product who will. That did not start with VW that started with Henry Ford.
The reason there is so much anti union rhetoric is because other corporations that got these Republicans in office don't want to loose their best employees to VW, to keep that from happening they would also have to pay higher wages. if that happened their CEO's would not get to make their multi million dollar bonuses. However the good folk in the south are real good corporate puppets. Very funny.

 

[buzz]

Interesting....I paid into a union for 35 years..AGAINST my will. When you work for the RR, you belong to a union...or you don't work. I did not have hard feelings toward the union...it was them taking part of those dues, contributing it to PAL (Political Action League) and supporting candidates..that I would have shot...if it were legal. And when you (UNIONS) bargain...your right to strike vote out. They have you!!!!!!!

And if you think any of the big UAW officials...lost a dime...during the Obama BAILOUT...please enlighten me.

 

[Maverick]

Why didn't you leave RR. OH, probably one of best jobs in Chattanooga, imagine that. What did you make a hour when you left? Reason Unions support candidates is to fend off the corporate puppets. Corporations spend billions supporting their puppets. Got to make those multi million dollar bonuses.

 

[Sniperchoke]

Like I said if ya don't like your pay scale u can always leave for another job. Unions have ruined the big three automakers, ruined the school systems and countless other industries. If employees want to unionize so be it just give them the freedom to belong or not

 

[humdinger]

Talk about big companies giving money to politicians, do you know how much the UAW has given in the last 10 years? The liberal's seem to think that's ok.

 

[Maverick]

No unions did not ruin the big automakers, building gas gushing automobiles is what killed automakers, ignoring the market. Republicans are not going to be satisfied until school teachers make same pay as walmart employees. Corporations want infrastructure, low wages, educated workforce, and don't want to pay for it. It is working, create a little fear, all that is needed. Teachers have been so disrespected so bad in the last 10 years I cannot imagine why anyone would want to give up four years of income, pay 50,000 for an education and make poor wages. Right now if you are a teacher in TN. It is a major beat down. I know someone that had to pay over 1000 to get certified, more than a lawyer has to pay. But you are right, go get a business degree use other peoples money, hire employees and feed them catfish head and convince them that that is to good for them while I go spend a week on my yacht. keep it up guys life is good.

 

[humdinger]

The UAW is crying about Corker's statements last week. But does everyone remember the UAW'S headline in the news a few months ago? "No union, No VW Expansion"... that's how they got the majority card check at the plant. The then tried to take away our vote and use the cards to get in. They didn't have a problem then.
Do as I say, not as I do?

 

[humdinger]

Bob King, president of the UAW, has admitted that they played a role in the decline of the big three. He should know.

 

[Sniperchoke]

Go cry me a freaking river!! Teachers I know make great wages most from 50 to 60 k a year they only work about 180 days outta they along with health insurance and pensions they don't pay for.. Private employees mostly pay for their own ins plus their 401ks. Without a 3 month sebatical during the summer. Then all u hear from teachers is them counting down the days to the next vacation ..

 

[EricM]

All right Maverick. Keep it on the union discussion and not a bashing of Republicans (or Democrats) (or Independents) or any other political group. They are separate discussions and party bashing will not be tolerated on the Off Subject forum. If it continues, the thread will be closed or moved to the political discussion forum.

 

[Maverick]

Sniperchoke - 2/16/2014 10:00 PM

Go cry me a freaking river!! Teachers I know make great wages most from 50 to 60 k a year they only work about 180 days outta they along with health insurance and pensions they don't pay for.. Private employees mostly pay for their own ins plus their 401ks. Without a 3 month sebatical during the summer. Then all u hear from teachers is them counting down the days to the next vacation ..

Teachers use to get 3 months off. They get 8 weeks off unpaid vacation. most are required to do professional development on their own dime during that time. Cry a river for the folks making over 250k that are struggling to pay their bills . Fox News sells that and how hard it is to raise a family today in this economy and then the next day talk about how teachers have it made on a 40 k income. Unless you coach a major sport you do not make 50k as a teacher. you might be lucky to get 4k to coach in which they have half the community to interview you because it is such an important job, you spend 20 extra hours a week doing the job and that is not even during season. Cry a river for the CEO,S living the American dream. I just don' t get how people can be so naive. you do not get paid for summer as a teacher and you do not qualify for unemployment like other people do that are unemployed for two months. If you go on strike as a teacher you get put in jail. they can take away your tenor, reduce your pay and other things so your corporations can pay less taxes while righting off about everything they spend on their taxes. I do not no about you my job is not a business. I do not get to write off my meals, gas to work, nice car I drive, hotels I stay in, clothes I buy and so on. teachers enjoy there vacation yes but only get paid for time at work, as far as snow days go, teachers work extra hours to compinsate for that every year. If it does not snow or what ever they work that time for free. Teachers give more of their professional time away than any other profession. Ever been to a ball game where teachers are working parking lot, concession stand, taking up, money and so on. they don' t get paid for that in most schools. they do that for your kids. So go ahead and disparage them, and feel good about yourself.

 

[Maverick]

EricM - 2/16/2014 10:02 PM

All right Maverick. Keep it on the union discussion and not a bashing of Republicans (or Democrats) (or Independents) or any other political group. They are separate discussions and party bashing will not be tolerated on the Off Subject forum. If it continues, the thread will be closed or moved to the political discussion forum.

I am not the one that started that, tell me why republicans! democrat's or independent! politicians felt the need to get involved. VW has their own hospital, fire and police station and so on. this should have been taken care of internally. in the end VW will unionize because they understand the process, and they ultimately want to sell product. more people that can afford their product the more they are going to sell. Wages is not the only factor in price, competition plays a major role. I am no way an enemy of corporations or people that support them. however I do understand how the economy works, and what it takes to sustain it. VW just wants stability, because the market is there for them. European automakers think very differently than American automakers.

 

[xpress19]

I am glad the people who construct nuclear power plants have some of the best training apprenticeships. On the other hand I was in the teamsters in Houston Tx. and we worked for Consolidated Freightways. I was a casual but still got my 40 hours. I worked with some of the laziest SOBs in my life. On a good night I could out work 5 regular employees. I paid union dues so I could pay their retirement.

 

[humdinger]

IGMetall and the heads of the Works Council wants us to unionize because we have been building a great award winning car without a union. It goes against their reason for existing.
Mercedes announced a few weeks ago that they didn't need a works council in the US. Wonder why?

 

[Maverick]

I am going to step away from this. Eric is right I am only going to make people mad.

 

[humdinger]

Maverick, in no way have you made me mad. I hope you have a good day. I enjoyed the discussion!

 

[buzz]

Teachers had a pretty good job back in the days....hell, they even had some respect. I am not going to cut bait here. That was before segregation...! Thanks Johnson.