Aquatic Herbicide spraying at Harrison Bay

[derek81]

And this is now turning into a political mess........WTH????

 

[whenwegoin]

Censorship

 

[Buoy-Master]

The post had nothing to do with the spraying. He's more than welcome to post the rant of that nature in the correct area.

 

[derek81]

whenwegoin - 9/20/2012 1:39 PM

Censorship

My bad, didn't even realize what I posted, and Billy thank you for moving that.

 

[finbully]

MagicMan72 - 9/20/2012 11:20 AM

Does TVA not have to OK it also?

No it's the Tennessee Department of Agriculture that "regulates" aquatic herbicide use.

 

[MagicMan72]

I have nothing against the rich, or the poor, or the red, white, yellow or green, but anyone who doesnt question the use of poison chemicals in our water system cant be thinking straight.

 

[SpurHunter]

whenwegoin - 9/19/2012 2:39 PM Censorship

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Nope, not even close. We provide an area for politcal rants, and he can go there and say ANYTHING he wants about any political subject. </p>

 

[Buoy-Master]

MagicMan72 - 9/20/2012 8:53 PM I have nothing against the rich, or the poor, or the red, white, yellow or green, but anyone who doesnt question the use of poison chemicals in our water system cant be thinking straight.

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[488.5]

Fishin Fool - 9/19/2012 9:11 AM



 The fact is, rich people are the ones driving the effort. If you think fighting an issue because it was started by a certain economic group is being "jealous" then apparently you haven't bothered to read the numerous posts made over the years on this subject. Most middle class people don't own big homes on the lake. They are concerned with working, paying bills, and an occasional trip to the water to fish, and even now that is being threatened by well heeled folks. What is the old saying; the guilty dog barks first? If you have something useful to say about this issue, fine, but to suggest that " you're jealous of some other people's success and are just using this as an excuse to vent your own personal financial frustrations" is stupid.
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488.5 - 9/19/2012 7:13 AM

kingcab - 9/17/2012 7:01 PM Agree with Churly,tva does not care what goes into our waterways as long as the rich are happy.Sad we have to live under these conditions.

Hmmmm .... I didn't know that "The Rich" had anything to do with it? Sounds to me like you're jealous of some other people's success and are just using this as an excuse to vent your own personal financial frustrations .......

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The guilty dog barks first? Is that the best rebuttal you got? And I take offense to your insinuation that I'm stupid. You can come to my house and say that to my face anytime you feel like discussing it. And I'll post anything I like ... anytime I like ... as long as I don't break the forum rules. If you don't like my opinion then either don't read it or else get over it. My response was in reference to the insinuation that you have to be "rich" to own property on the water. I'd prefer to say you have to be SMART to live there. Manage your money correctly instead of buying a new truck or boat every two years, and work your ass off for several years doing a job that your college education allowed you to get. THAT'S how you live on the water. As for the "rich" being behind the spraying ... you gotta be kidding. The NOISY are behind the spraying. Those who bark loudest and know who to call are getting the spraying done. And if it was around my dock preventing my family from enjoying the property that we own, you can bet your last dollar that I'll either talk TVA into spraying it or else I'll eliminate it myself. I didn't purchase property for YOUR enjoyment, nor am I going to allow you to determine what I should or shouldn't do with vegetation around my dock or property. Spraying near homes and private or public docks is necessary. Get over it.

If you knew as much as you "THINK" you do ... you'd be one of those "rich" people that you hate so much.

 

[Fishin Fool]

Your posts make the case each time you write. Quote: "Sounds to me like you're jealous of some other people's success and are just using this as an excuse to vent your own personal financial frustrations". That is stupid statement. I don't know if YOU are stupid, you may or may not be, but I didn't allude to that, but the statement was. You had no problem reading that poster's mind did you? You knew his intent didn't you? He hated rich people right? If not, why did you get so far off point to describe his comment (which he has the right to make) as being "jealous" of rich people. There are a lot of rich people, middle class people and poor people on the forum. As far as I know, no one has a grudge against any of them, me included, unless they use money, power and influence to get things their way when they know it's wrong. Happens a lot lately. The folks riding up and down the lake on the big cruisers are probably poor folks too huh? No one with money. By the way, don't think you are the lone dog here. I'd wager that almost everyone on the forum works pretty damn hard, and the majority can't afford a lake home. Glad that you can. If you are trying to convince me that poor/middle income people that work hard and manage money well own the majority of houses that cost $400,000 and up on the lake, you lost me. Did you assume if we DON'T own a lake home we are lazy and don't know how to manage money? As for hating rich people, nope not me. I am related to some and I sure don't hate them or their success. Although "some" people with money get the idea that the world is there only to wait on them. But no, I don't hate rich folks, poor folks, middle income, or Billionaires. And no, no one assumed you purchased property for their enjoyment. You actually purchased property on a public lake. The problem is well heeled people that purchase lake front property, want to change the LAKE to suit them, not the general public. Certainly not all lake front property owners, but enough to have caused TVA to take action. That is the point. No more posts from me on this subject.
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488.5 - 9/22/2012 4:41 PM

Fishin Fool - 9/19/2012 9:11 AM </p>

The fact is, rich people are the ones driving the effort. If you think fighting an issue because it was started by a certain economic group is being "jealous" then apparently you haven't bothered to read the numerous posts made over the years on this subject. Most middle class people don't own big homes on the lake. They are concerned with working, paying bills, and an occasional trip to the water to fish, and even now that is being threatened by well heeled folks. What is the old saying; the guilty dog barks first? If you have something useful to say about this issue, fine, but to suggest that " you're jealous of some other people's success and are just using this as an excuse to vent your own personal financial frustrations" is stupid.
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488.5 - 9/19/2012 7:13 AM

kingcab - 9/17/2012 7:01 PM Agree with Churly,tva does not care what goes into our waterways as long as the rich are happy.Sad we have to live under these conditions.

Hmmmm .... I didn't know that "The Rich" had anything to do with it? Sounds to me like you're jealous of some other people's success and are just using this as an excuse to vent your own personal financial frustrations .......

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The guilty dog barks first? Is that the best rebuttal you got? And I take offense to your insinuation that I'm stupid. You can come to my house and say that to my face anytime you feel like discussing it. And I'll post anything I like ... anytime I like ... as long as I don't break the forum rules. If you don't like my opinion then either don't read it or else get over it. My response was in reference to the insinuation that you have to be "rich" to own property on the water. I'd prefer to say you have to be SMART to live there. Manage your money correctly instead of buying a new truck or boat every two years, and work your ass off for several years doing a job that your college education allowed you to get. THAT'S how you live on the water. As for the "rich" being behind the spraying ... you gotta be kidding. The NOISY are behind the spraying. Those who bark loudest and know who to call are getting the spraying done. And if it was around my dock preventing my family from enjoying the property that we own, you can bet your last dollar that I'll either talk TVA into spraying it or else I'll eliminate it myself. I didn't purchase property for YOUR enjoyment, nor am I going to allow you to determine what I should or shouldn't do with vegetation around my dock or property. Spraying near homes and private or public docks is necessary. Get over it. If you knew as much as you "THINK" you do ... you'd be one of those "rich" people that you hate so much.

 

[488.5]

Fishin Fool - 9/22/2012 4:57 PM



Your posts make the case each time you write ........ You actually purchased property on a public lake. The problem is well heeled people that purchase lake front property, want to change the LAKE to suit them, not the general public.

LOL .....You're the biggest hypocrite I've ever seen. Yep, I purchased property on a public lake. The SAME public lake that is used by the boats that you refer to as "River Destroyers". The SAME public lake that YOU say should be filled with NON-NATIVE vegetation that shouldn't be here in the first place. Perhaps you need to find yourself a NEW public lake to fish since you seem so displeased with this one?

 

[finbully]

Fishin Fool - 9/22/2012 4:57 PM



Certainly not all lake front property owners, but enough to have caused TVA to take action.
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Don't drag TVA into this. They are not spraying! Nor are they paying for it!

 

[humdinger]

I bet if we sprayed herbicide on the law makers and TVA officials lawns every year the laws would change!

 

[humdinger]

This is a non-native lake. Should we have only native grass in it? How about the non-native fescue that is lining the banks? Should we spray it too?

 

[MagicMan72]

I think someone came into this thread to start trouble which seem they are good at on this thread and others Ive seen. If you just want to fight and start trouble why dont you find a hobby? Huh like fishing.

 

[beetlespin]

I bet you all put herbicides on your yards every year. Weed and Feed, crabgrass preventer, etc... Same stuff. Not sprayed directly in the water but it eventually gets there.

 

[MrWiskers]

I am confused. Why spray now? It will all be gone a few weeks when they drop the water for winter pool. Why not spary in July so it would be cleared out for most of the summer.

Makes no sense.

 

[bullshot]

beetlespin - 9/23/2012 7:29 PM

I bet you all put herbicides on your yards every year. Weed and Feed, crabgrass preventer, etc... Same stuff. Not sprayed directly in the water but it eventually gets there.

Yup far more volume and higher toxicity to the stuff that washes in from land.

MrWiskers - 9/23/2012 8:17 PM

I am confused. Why spray now? .....

It is the most effective time for selective sprays such as 2,4-d (only kills the non-native milfoil). By using it now, it slows the growth in the spring and early summer. While spraying it in mid-summer, the milfoil has time to recover in the fall and have explosive growth in the spring. Also algae blooms in the summer can hamper the effectiveness.

 

[gobigorange]

They were spraying in marion county park on Thursday on the river side

 

[Racefish]

I think some of the lake front home owners have forgotten one thing. You bought the property next to the lake and obtained a permit to build whatever dock you want to over the water. You don't own the water under the dock or around it.